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Zhana Agonskaya
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Posted - 2010.03.08 10:01:00 -
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ok, so I am new to steam, thought I would have a look through the games and see whats what, but what is x3? like a single player eve? civilization type game? c&c in space?
could someone tell me what kind of game this is?
please?
thanks
Zhana
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justin666
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Posted - 2010.03.08 10:03:00 -
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its rubbish...made the mistake of paying 30 pound for a sh@t game
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: justin666 its rubbish...made the mistake of paying 30 pound for a sh@t game
Quoting someone who never made it past figuring out the controls. 
Yeah, I can see why some people think it's rubbish. It just dumps you in the middle of the game universe and expects you to know how to play. The controls are not particularly intuitive, and there are a lot of features which don't get explained and you have to figure them out for yourself. Kind of like Eve in that respect.
It's a space sandbox game. Sort of like single player Eve, but you fly your ship manually. You can also command other ships you own to do stuff for you. It's only 20 quid now, and personally I think it's well worth it. ____________________
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Suneai
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:26:00 -
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I'd say think about a shooter in space, you can go first or third person. It is a single player game and easily the most beautiful space game you could play to date. Terran Conflict is the finale for the series, you don't need the previous games but if you want to be immersed in the full story then I'd recommend playing through the whole series.
A lot of people are thrown off from the game series because it isn't the easiest thing to pick up; X3: Reunion was a bit harsh and threw a lot of people into the deep end where NPCs don't wait for you to get your bearings. I'd say Terran Conflict is a little more friendly than the previous game but can still be a little harsh if you don't pay attention.
Personally I'd definitely recommend the series, it'll take a bit of time and commitment to learn everything (but playing EVE you should be used to that)... it is more than worth the time.
You can download a demo if you want to get a feel the game first. I'd suggest doing the demo for X3: Reunion and X3: Terran Conflict to get a feel of the more recent change within the series. Note that the game would pull away some (or a good chunk of it if you get sucked in) of your time from EVE though.
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Dupre Indelian
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:30:00 -
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It is indeed a bit like EVE, but the learning curve is even higher, you practically thrown in the middle of space, without knowing what to do.
Trade, Fight, Build, Think is the Motto and the game expects you to set your own goals. I enjoyed it, but it is certainly not a game for those who like to have everything handed to them. 
When X3:TC is too strong, then you are too weak!
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FlameGlow
Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 14:11:00 -
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X3:TC storyline missions are way too simple and rewarding compared to X3:Reunion missions, and in many cases nothing depends on you. Esp in terran line - capturing M6 or final mission do stuff as asked and fail or don't do it, result is same as if you succeed. Well, you can just ignore the plot and go do whatever you please and come back to it when you feel like it anyway. Furthermore, you're already reading my sig |

X1994
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.08 14:31:00 -
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Awesome game IMO, but very difficult to get into.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.08 14:33:00 -
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X2 and X3 are imo better if you want an actual plot/story to follow (even if they're short).. TC kind of just puts you out there and lets you decide for yourself.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.03.08 16:10:00 -
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great game, very addictive once you get into it, if you do get it, download the MARS fire control mod it will make your life a lot easier, trouble is at later stages in the game it tends to grind my PC to a halt which makes it unplayable, so be aware you're gonna need a pretty good PC to keep up with it at later stages
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.03.08 16:49:00 -
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Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.08 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine.
for me its always the inevitable grind up to a m6 with marines, and from there, usually pure profit.
Of course, then they nerfed that strategy.. it actually takes a bucketload of trained marines to take anything, and I cant figure out the damned missile frigates. I cant seem to get the pods to connect, and I refuse to fly them myself.
I suppose its always an option to steal defenseless TLs in core systems, but usually I mod those away (among many other changes)
My empire is usually founded on marines.. And it usually doesnt fail me. Usually >.> OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.08 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine.
Get lots of mods; favorites are racial response fleets, NPC salvagers, Salvage claim software and NPC bailing addon. fly to the nearest battle and beat the other guys to picking up the scraps from big fleet fights; repeat until you can afford a bucketload of decent marines and start stealing capital ships and build megacomplexes
There's also a nice mod that squishes complexes together into a big factory box to reduce lag, although they obviously won't look as pretty compared to the ones made with the factory complex constructor (which is AWESOME) _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep! |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.08 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
There's also a nice mod that squishes complexes together into a big factory box to reduce lag, although they obviously won't look as pretty compared to the ones made with the factory complex constructor (which is AWESOME)
I use FDN (freight distribution node) and FCC as well. Anyway, FCC lets me build OOS(i think it does at least.. not sure exactly what anymore, havent played in forever), and FDN eliminates the need for complex construction tubes (for a hellova fee, but its worth it, because it adds a warehouse as well) Anyway, not needing to be in sector to place .. anything is awesome. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:23:00 -
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yeah, i tried FDN but it seemed too cheaty to me. Being able to connect and instantly deliver products across several systems renders normal trading ships and logistics completely obsolete  _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep! |

Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:32:00 -
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Thanks for the suggestions peeps, will get to downloading those mods, I've only got a few of them, like the EST also MARs Control, some other ones I've had commended too. My usual tactic is to get some pirate ships in dogfights then work my way up, it's a long process though of getting M4s and M3s to take a Corvette and up.
Do you people use the Mobile Carriers to store fighters? Like the Magnetar?
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lance Fighter on 08/03/2010 19:33:17
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate yeah, i tried FDN but it seemed too cheaty to me. Being able to connect and instantly deliver products across several systems renders normal trading ships and logistics completely obsolete 
Well, thats the thing. For me, it was a replacement for complex tubes - I used it for nothing more. I 'pretended' I had a huge complex in system, where really it was the next system over connected by FDN's eqdock warehouse.
I considered placing a FDN node in the Hub, but I never actually got the hub operational.. And to think I sunk over 200 hours into x3tc.. Edit Oh yeah, I remember now why I never finished the hub. I thought it would be cool to start modding. My first project was to be one of the more ambitious projects of the era, turning x3tc into an rts.
It almost got past the planning stage. I am afraid to return to the egosoft forums for fear they will demand I finish it   OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2010.03.08 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Thanks for the suggestions peeps, will get to downloading those mods, I've only got a few of them, like the EST also MARs Control, some other ones I've had commended too. My usual tactic is to get some pirate ships in dogfights then work my way up, it's a long process though of getting M4s and M3s to take a Corvette and up.
Do you people use the Mobile Carriers to store fighters? Like the Magnetar?
Yes, although it takes some work (again, with mods...lol). there doesn't seem to be much use for TMs in vanilla apart from being an annoying way to drag around your personal fighter + escort. There's some fix for the docking computers from the MARS guy that makes ships instadock inside the 5k range even if you're not controlling them, meaning you can use the TMs to fly around your personal gankfleet without tearing your hair out waiting for them
Also, Zephyrus > Magnetar anyways, as most OTAS ships are > Argon standard ships
Originally by: Lance Fighter Well, thats the thing. For me, it was a replacement for complex tubes - I used it for nothing more. I 'pretended' I had a huge complex in system, where really it was the next system over connected by FDN's eqdock warehouse.
I considered placing a FDN node in the Hub, but I never actually got the hub operational.. And to think I sunk over 200 hours into x3tc..
Ah; yeah, that'd be better. It's whatever that autosells the stuff from the hub warehouses to any station in range that seemed silly to me; i like a challenge, and instant transport across howevermany systems just seemed cheesy. The big factory-brick mod (i can't remember the name) suited me a lot better though for fixing the lag issues and didn't seem as...well, silly. _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep! |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.08 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Ah; yeah, that'd be better. It's whatever that autosells the stuff from the hub warehouses to any station in range that seemed silly to me; i like a challenge, and instant transport across howevermany systems just seemed cheesy. The big factory-brick mod (i can't remember the name) suited me a lot better though for fixing the lag issues and didn't seem as...well, silly.
autosell? Gods no.
Then again, it was largely used for personal factories only, the stuff I made was personal armaments and goods. I had myself set up in yaki space anyway, with the 'nids as my enemies.. As always it seems for me.
OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.08 20:48:00 -
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Edited by: bff Jill on 08/03/2010 20:48:08 i prefer reunion to tc, tc doesn't feel as polished.
oh, the game plays best with a trackball i find. not a mouse, not a joystick, a track ball. Try it.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.09 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yeah, I can see why some people think it's rubbish. It just dumps you in the middle of the game universe and expects you to know how to play.
Even when I started playing X2 it seemed like they half expected everyone had played X. _____________________
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Sgt Blade
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.09 12:46:00 -
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the basic jist of the game is as follows (for me anyways)
get hauler, trade and make money get more haulers and make them automated traders, get more money get more haulers again and make them automated, make even more money do a bit of the story line to past the time while your traders make you lots of money did I mention make more money? get a station and make more money... create complex stations and make even more money...
with your amazing wealth build/buy a fleet of ships and go fight in one of the xenon sectors
pro tip: if you plan to fly any of the big ships in x3, id suggest to get a joystick because turning a large ship with your mouse takes FOREVER
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.09 13:18:00 -
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this conversation makes me want to re-install it. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:09:00 -
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a few points...
I started with x2 - back then, they had the 'simulator' option on the main menu (not to mention a cooler looking menu screen with random ships flying across..) Anyway, the simulations taught you a bit..
Also, with tc comes a new control system, so you no longer need infinite desk space to fly around in a big ship. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:35:00 -
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one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours. ____________________
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours.
Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods!
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 09/03/2010 19:12:39
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours.
Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods!
I also completed The Hub mission without cheating. Before the material requirements were reduced.  ____________________
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 09/03/2010 19:12:39
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours.
Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods!
I also completed The Hub mission without cheating. Before the material requirements were reduced. 
You what now? Do not believe. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |

ReaperOfSly
Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:36:00 -
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Yeah you're right, I was bull****ting. It was after. Still a pain in the arse though. ____________________
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.09 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yeah you're right, I was bull****ting. It was after. Still a pain in the arse though.

Figured
its ok, I never actually finished.. well, any of the hub. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points |
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