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XXcXX	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:33:00 - [1] My question may seem a simple one at first but is there more to this question than meets the eye. First of all we have to ask what defines a player as having been a pirate or what act must this player have committed to be then deemed as having acted as a pirate?
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:37:00 - [2] I pirate demand ransom.
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:42:00 - [3] A pirate is someone who holds people at gunpoint for profit, be it in the form of loot or ransom. Being -10 doesn't make one a pirate perse nor does being in low sec automatically make you a pirate. I mostly fly in high sec doing very silly things to get people to shoot me, resulting in me killing them or holding them for ransom and thus I am a pirate. Not that names, tags, cool sec status or stuff like that matters in any way but if you want an anser, that is it. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
WA DRAG0N	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:49:00 - [4] so basicaly a pirate is a player who will pop another players ship for profit. I am wandering if this applies to 0.0 blobs who do not hold sov and just wander around popping every thing in sight and talking the lootage could they then be considerd as acting as pirates.
The AEther Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:59:00 - [5] pirate is somebody who engages in ship-on-ship violence with the ultimate goal of personal profit - thus you can pirate in highsec, lowsec, or 0.0, as long as you do it for money or some kind of personal gain Agony Unleashed - no blues 0.0 pvp, pvp classes
Kaaii Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:01:00 - [6] "A pirate is someone who is not smart enough to be a carebear..." According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:04:00 - [7] "A thief is someone who doesn't have the funds to start a company" sillyness aside, someone did once tell me that "you're not smart enough to mine, so you shoot people". That really crushed my ego :( ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
Mocam	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:12:00 - [8] What's an EVE Pirate? Anyone that wants to call themselves a pirate. A Can flipper, gate camper, suicide ganker, mission runner, salvager, etc.. It doesn't matter what you do -- a station trader can call themselves a pirate so it pretty much means nothing more than "eve player"... zip "special" meaning to it.
ABITA Gallente Old Farts Club DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:26:00 - [9] Edited by: ABITA on 08/03/2010 11:27:17 Pirate is the one who kicks your ass and asks for ransom. Griefer/PVP'er is the one who just shoots you and pods you without asking anything. Sec status nowadays don't tell much about the player, many anti-pirates have -10.00 sec status because they pod pirates and shoot them anywhere. If you don't ransom, you ain't really pirate. For example when I tried pirating, I actually never did ransom anyone, I just ranked 180 kills and around 70 pods in one month and had fun. Did I make ISK? Hell no, just lost tons of it haha So I really wasn't pirating, I was just griefing noobs and laughing
Tolrok Qorte Minmatar Blackjack Enterprises	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:33:00 - [10] There's one rule to piracy. Ransom. Pirates ransom. PvPers kill. If you kill everyone you see, even with -10 sec, a nice WANTED tag, 50 mil bounty, and you're in Yarr United corp. You are not a pirate. The guy with -1.3 sec, in a small do it all corp, with no bounty that ransoms at least some of the people he finds. He's a pirate. Also, dishonoring ransoms means you end up killing the guy, just scamming him before hand. I do not count these guys as real pirates.

Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:43:00 - [11] hi cat here i specialise in anti pirating and espectially defending the system of rancer from pirates. i have worked out a few things about pirates, such as the fact they do not have souls. how many pirates does it take to screw in a lightbulb? a ration of 10 pirates to 1 lightbulb if by screw in you mean mercilessly gank lol ps: for all the pirates out there who want to change i am now taking reservations for my summer pirate rehabilitation program. admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery lol xxx
XXcXX	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:44:00 - [12] In asking the question above I was seeking to put a label onto the many blobs of 1,2,3 year old players some times 10 û 15 players in strength, who now fly around NCP 0.0 space ganking each other and any thing they come across. If these players are not seen as genuine profit seeking pirates or are not seen as genuine pvp players defending sov space or seeking to expend their sov space, then what sort of label could we apply to them to quickly identify them. There is one label that springs to mind, A Blob Of Cowards, as in for example A Murder Of Crows. I put this suggestion forward for the simple reasons they seek safety in numbers before undocking and then always run away from any thing even bordering on a fair fight. So is labelling such a blob of players as a blob of coward a fair description. Such things could be said in local as ô every one dock up a blob of cowards has arrived in system.ö Or ôtake care there is a blob of cowards floating about these systems.ö Yes a quick and easy way to identify such blobs to others. I give you ôA BLOB OF COWARDSö a fair description I think.
Tolrok Qorte Minmatar Blackjack Enterprises	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:50:00 - [13] Yeah, you can't really call the massive blobs of 50 guys afraid to engage a 10 man gatecamp pirates. Seeing as most real pirates have a great tendancy to fight outnumbered and outgunned.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:50:00 - [14] A pirate is anyone not NRDS. Delenda est achura.
Typhado3 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:59:00 - [15] I pew therefore I yarr ------------------------------ God is an afk cloaker
Major Galdari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.03.08 12:07:00 - [16] Originally by: Tolrok Qorte Seeing as most real pirates have a great tendancy to fight outnumbered and outgunned. Quoted for truth
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.08 12:45:00 - [17] Someone who illegally copied EvE. Duh, stupid question.
Avon Caldari Versatech Co. Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.03.08 13:02:00 - [18] I used to scramble, web & jam people and hold them in place until they paid a ransom, or paid with their ship if they refused. Those were fun times. Of course the victims moaned and moaned and moaned about piracy and demanded changes to the game mechanics, which indeed came to pass. Ransoming was pretty much history, and as I such I retired from piracy - the fun for me was gone. I just hope that those who called for changes are enjoying the days of instagank gatecamps and hi-sec suicide kills their cries brought on ... except I honestly doubt many of them actually still play, so those who remain enjoy their legacy. Also, piracy is defined only by the correct usage of the term "Yarr!!Ö", anything else is just a distraction from that core point. Signature removed, please only use English on the forums. Zymurgist Okay sweet-cheeks xxx. Avon
Tolrok Qorte Minmatar Blackjack Enterprises	Posted - 2010.03.08 13:25:00 - [19] Originally by: Avon I used to scramble, web & jam people and hold them in place until they paid a ransom, or paid with their ship if they refused. Those were fun times. Of course the victims moaned and moaned and moaned about piracy and demanded changes to the game mechanics, which indeed came to pass. Ransoming was pretty much history, and as I such I retired from piracy - the fun for me was gone. I just hope that those who called for changes are enjoying the days of instagank gatecamps and hi-sec suicide kills their cries brought on ... except I honestly doubt many of them actually still play, so those who remain enjoy their legacy. Also, piracy is defined only by the correct usage of the term "Yarr!!Ö", anything else is just a distraction from that core point. I ransom all the time, come on back. Rejoin the fun. :)
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.03.08 13:31:00 - [20] An Eve pirate is someone who listens to music on the Eve jukebox that he hasn't downloaded legally.

Swiftgaze	Posted - 2010.03.08 14:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here i specialise in anti pirating and espectially defending the system of rancer from pirates. <33333
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.03.08 14:57:00 - [22] EVERYBODY CAN BE A PIRATE! ALL YOU NEED IS A PARROT! CLICK ON ONE OF THESE AND GET IT FOR FREE! The parrot vortex signature had to go. No hypnotic graphics in signatures please. Shadow. World Domination With Hypnotic Parrots Status: FOILED!
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.08 15:12:00 - [23] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 08/03/2010 15:12:49 Real pirates didn't ransom people, but these teenagers who row out to a cruise ship or freighter with AK47's nowadays aren't arguing, because they don't understand english. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Bfoster The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Tolrok Qorte Seeing as most real pirates have a great tendancy to fight outnumbered and outgunned. ------------ My Killboard- The Jerk Cartel
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:45:00 - [25] Hmmm this thread again SKUNK (o)
KaarBaak Minmatar Situation Grey	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:54:00 - [26] Wikipedia: Piracy is a war-like act committed by private parties (not affiliated with any government) that engage in acts of robbery and/or criminal violence at sea. The term can include acts committed in other major bodies of water or on a shore. It does not normally include crimes committed against persons travelling on the same vessel as the perpetrator (e.g. one passenger stealing from others on the same vessel). The term has been used to refer to raids across land borders by non-state agents. Piracy should be distinguished from privateering, which was a legitimate form of war-like activity by non-state actors, authorized by their national authorities, until this form of commerce raiding was outlawed in the 19th century. Also: Of course the best version of 'Pirate' was by Cher. KB KB My blogs: Tastes Like Chicken EvE Meta-Gaming
Ivalobon	Posted - 2010.03.08 18:37:00 - [27] Here is a strange one. But a very good example of how players apply double standards to a situation to justify what is it they are doing, very often mixing up pvp , pirating and grief as they go along. I very recently left a corp/alliance whoÆs sole thing in eve was be in an NCP 0.0 region late at night (eve time) one of the CEOÆs would form his fellow corp/alliance mates into what we are now calling a cowardÆs blob, of up to 10 players them fly around the NCP 0.0 systems acting as the FC of the blob looking for easy kills, IMHO one of the purest forms of legal grief there is in the game. But in saying that it is 0.0 so what can you expect. Yet in one conversation I had with this CEO who is BTW the most active person of these late night cowardÆs blobs. Went a little like this. He suggested we go mining in a public belt to gather minerals to build ships. I said this is now a very dangerous thing to do because of the amount of battle ship ganking that was going on (at the time.) His reply to this was for him to go a little nutty flaming the battle ship gankers as being worthless cowards for doing such a despicable thing. I remind you this is the very same person who justifies getting easy kills with his cowards blob by some how calling it pvp. Talk about the tail wagging the dog, he is justifying dealing out grief on one hand and condemning others for the same thing on the other hand self delusional double standards or what? On topic IMHO battle ship ganking and cowards blobs are not pirating.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Punic Corp.	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:21:00 - [28] I don't think you have to ransom to be a pirate. The loot can be just as good as a source of income. The point is that you must be doing it mainly for the ISK. Me, I'm very aggressively non-pirate (not anti-pirate though). I don't care about the ISK. I never pay ransom to pirates, and I never accept ransoms when they're offered to me by my victims. The loot can be a nice little bonus, at times. But it's not why I shoot things. I just want to kill stuff. That's all. Preferably in 0.0 (or as part of faction warfare), so I get to keep my sec status and can still go everywhere in high sec, and also preferably as part of a real war between different political entities so it feels like there is more of a purpose to it RP wise. But the most important part is killing stuff. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Kroma BaSyl Amarr Snickers Inc	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:59:00 - [29] Originally by: XXcXX In asking the question above I was seeking to put a label onto the many blobs of 1,2,3 year old players some times 10 û 15 players in strength, who blew up my ship. Fixed it for you. ------------------------- Kroma BaSyl CEO - Snickers Inc Don't hate me because I am beautiful!
Hecatonis	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:09:00 - [30] Originally by: XXcXX I give you ôA BLOB OF COWARDSö a fair description I think. they are carebears, the actively avoid danger. it doesnt matter if you live in highsec or flight people when you outnumber them 10-1 they are all just carebears



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