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Rivur'Tam	Posted - 2010.03.08 12:41:00 - [1] if you are thinking about getting t-mobile broadband do not first thier allownace will not cover u playing eve for a month you cannot use eve voice or ventrillo there service is down for at least 4 hours a day and the connection is not stable you will drop at least once an hour if u want the above fixed hey wil charge you 30gbp a month insead of the 15 they quote you if your going to use brodband of this type use 3 its by far better ... my vid watch now
Swiftgaze	Posted - 2010.03.08 12:54:00 - [2] Originally by: Rivur'Tam if you are thinking about getting t-mobile broadband do not first thier allownace will not cover u playing eve for a month you cannot use eve voice or ventrillo there service is down for at least 4 hours a day and the connection is not stable you will drop at least once an hour if u want the above fixed hey wil charge you 30gbp a month insead of the 15 they quote you if your going to use brodband of this type use 3 its by far better ..Probably.
Anakin Pubcrawler	Posted - 2010.03.08 13:09:00 - [3] Used T mobile for 18 months or so. Never even got close to using my limit (and I have 3gig), although I dont use ventrilo or voice.
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.08 13:15:00 - [4] I use 3 pay as you go and never had any problems.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.08 15:21:00 - [5] As far as i know, companies don't even offer these gigabyte limit scams where i live, so i think i'm ok. Seems to be an American phenomenon. Hooray for capitalism. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Alexa Indalta	Posted - 2010.03.08 15:24:00 - [6] I use roadrunner, 30 bucks a month, no bandwidth limits.
Savatar Mei	Posted - 2010.03.08 15:27:00 - [7] where?
My Postman	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:09:00 - [8] Clearly the OP is Austrian. Anyway, T-Mobile, 3 (Drei) and Orange all suck the same, because of speed. Do as i, get a Chello high speed connection (48 Ç/month) and be happy with "uber" speed and no limitations. Only restriction is that you have to live in an area where chello is available. Hope this helps.
Triple Entendre Emergence Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:22:00 - [9] The hardest part is finding somewhere T-Mobile gear actually picks up anything even resembling reception.
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:24:00 - [10] Edited by: Taedrin on 08/03/2010 16:25:25 Originally by: Professor Tarantula As far as i know, companies don't even offer these gigabyte limit scams where i live, so i think i'm ok. Seems to be an American phenomenon. Hooray for capitalism. American companies DO have gigabyte limits, they just refuse to tell you what they are. The OP is specifically talking about mobile data plans, which generally have around a couple gigabytes per month bandwidth limit. IIRC, in America, AT&T and Verizon both have a 5GB per month limit. EVE itself uses very little bandwidth. I would be surprised if it used more than a gigabyte in a month of use. If all you do is play EVE, then I guarantee that you will NOT hit the bandwidth limit. VoIP applications use more bandwidth, but I don't think you'll hit your bandiwdth limit unless you use it excessively. The Speex codec uses at most 44 kilobaud, which is 5.5 kilobytes per second. You'd need to rack up 264 hours of voice communication in a month to hit a 5 gigabyte per month limit. Or in other words, if you are hitting your bandwidth limit, you are also doing something else which is consuming a fair bit of bandwidth. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:28:00 - [11] Originally by: Professor Tarantula As far as i know, companies don't even offer these gigabyte limit scams where i live, so i think i'm ok. On my 3G modem in Tokyo those 30 gigs would be gone the first three days. ^_^
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:37:00 - [12] Originally by: Taedrin American companies DO have gigabyte limits, they just refuse to tell you what they are. The OP is specifically talking about mobile data plans, which generally have around a couple gigabytes per month bandwidth limit. IIRC, in America, AT&T and Verizon both have a 5GB per month limit. EVE itself uses very little bandwidth. I would be surprised if it used more than a gigabyte in a month of use. If all you do is play EVE, then I guarantee that you will NOT hit the bandwidth limit. VoIP applications use more bandwidth, but I don't think you'll hit your bandiwdth limit unless you use it excessively. The Speex codec uses at most 44 kilobaud, which is 5.5 kilobytes per second. You'd need to rack up 264 hours of voice communication in a month to hit a 5 gigabyte per month limit. Or in other words, if you are hitting your bandwidth limit, you are also doing something else which is consuming a fair bit of bandwidth. I think you misunderstood me. I only ever hear about Americans having bandwidth limits. The capitalism comment was me drawing attention to how different companies can work together in the name of everyone earning more money, and with the right connections, make things like that common across entire countries. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Buster Bloodvessel	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:19:00 - [13] I have mobile broadband in the UK and it works fine fine as a backup for eve, struggles a bit with voice but apart from that it is ok for gaming. Bit of lag sometimes but what would you expect? wystler stole my sig
Taedrin Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Taedrin American companies DO have gigabyte limits, they just refuse to tell you what they are. The OP is specifically talking about mobile data plans, which generally have around a couple gigabytes per month bandwidth limit. IIRC, in America, AT&T and Verizon both have a 5GB per month limit. EVE itself uses very little bandwidth. I would be surprised if it used more than a gigabyte in a month of use. If all you do is play EVE, then I guarantee that you will NOT hit the bandwidth limit. VoIP applications use more bandwidth, but I don't think you'll hit your bandiwdth limit unless you use it excessively. The Speex codec uses at most 44 kilobaud, which is 5.5 kilobytes per second. You'd need to rack up 264 hours of voice communication in a month to hit a 5 gigabyte per month limit. Or in other words, if you are hitting your bandwidth limit, you are also doing something else which is consuming a fair bit of bandwidth. I think you misunderstood me. I only ever hear about Americans having bandwidth limits. The capitalism comment was me drawing attention to how different companies can work together in the name of everyone earning more money, and with the right connections, make things like that common across entire countries. My apologies, I did misunderstand you. Reading comprehension ftl. Although it isn't just an American Phenomenon. I believe there are also plenty of European ISPs that also have bandwidth caps. But not being a European I really couldn't say much about it. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
King KLoWn Star Dust Industry AAA Citizens	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:39:00 - [15] This is why I love AT&T Low-sec is also an emergent sandbox, only itæs about 3 inches deep and full of cat poop.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:51:00 - [16] Edited by: Zartrader on 08/03/2010 17:52:36 I used Orange once (from Wanadoo which were fine). Biggest mistake. They offered a speed they could not provide and deliberately throttled busy times but denied it. Their web site was 100% adverts about how wonderful they were and nil support. They also got very aggressive when I cancelled. I now pay a bit extra and use BThere. Irritating name but they allow 3 or so computers to video stream at the same time with no lag at all. There is no limits and I get emailed about any work they are doing to my local exchange. I needed to replace my router and I got one from them, free, the same day. Technical support actually understand how modems work and even had me use the DOS commands to make checks once. You really do get what you pay for I think.
Ryhss Caldari 42nd Airborn	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Alexa Indalta I use roadrunner, 30 bucks a month, no bandwidth limits. Same here.
Brainless Bimbo Pator Tech School	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:39:00 - [18] Originally by: My Postman Do as i, get a Chello high speed connection (48 Ç/month) and be happy with "uber" speed and no limitations. Only restriction is that you have to live in an area where chello is available. Hope this helps. Chello suck when things go wrong, their support staff haven¦t got a clue... always go directly to Complaints dept, never talk to first line, i learnt the hard way. ...... continues overleaf.
Sherringford Hovis	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Zartrader Edited by: Zartrader on 08/03/2010 17:52:36 I used Orange once (from Wanadoo which were fine). Biggest mistake. They offered a speed they could not provide and deliberately throttled busy times but denied it. Their web site was 100% adverts about how wonderful they were and nil support. They also got very aggressive when I cancelled. I now pay a bit extra and use BThere. Irritating name but they allow 3 or so computers to video stream at the same time with no lag at all. There is no limits and I get emailed about any work they are doing to my local exchange. I needed to replace my router and I got one from them, free, the same day. Technical support actually understand how modems work and even had me use the DOS commands to make checks once. You really do get what you pay for I think. Agree totally. I have used BT for 7 years now, and never had a problem. When I started I was on 512kbps speed, which over the years steadily increased, to the current up to 20mbps. Admittedly, my line rarely gets over 10, but its still good. Yes, it costs a bit more than rivals, but as said, you get what you pay for!
Iva Posavec Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:48:00 - [20] Edited by: Iva Posavec on 08/03/2010 20:55:51 I live in the UK and am coming up to the end of my 18 month contract with T-Mobile for their 3GB a month mobile broadband plan. Haven't used it for months but when I was working security on night shifts I would work about 76 hours per week and most of that time was spent on Eve, I usually ran two clients and would browse the Internet, never came close to the 3Gb limit. The only thing that I had to be careful with was youtube which is to be expected anyway. edit: On the comments about BT, I have been with BT broadband for about a year and a half now and I am really happy with them, just wish I had went with them much sooner. I was originally with Tiscali for a year and my connection deteriorated quickly, they blamed my computer and everything else that they were not responsible for and their engineers would never get back in-touch with me, this went on for a very long time until I left them and went with Pipex. Pipex were just as bad if not worse, turned out in the end that I was spending a small fortune on calls and time on the phone was ridiculous. Eventually I went with BT, told them of my issues and they told me that they aim to find and resolve the issue within 72 hours, which they did. Turned out a main line outside had water in it and that was screwing up the Internet. So in short, two years two companies couldn't find or fix the issue yet BT did it within three days. I wont be leaving BT anytime soon thats's for sure. Iva Posavec CEO of Posavec Innovations & Takhar Matari Leader
Salmeria Advanced Component Research Enterprise	Posted - 2010.03.08 21:42:00 - [21] I love my verizon FIOS
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.03.08 22:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Salmeria I love my verizon FIOS Who wouldn't? But it's not wireless, and so it not germane to the topic at hand. -- Nah, that's just my Asperger's kickin' in.
Admiral Pelleon White Shadow Imperium	Posted - 2010.03.09 02:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Taedrin Edited by: Taedrin on 08/03/2010 16:25:25 Originally by: Professor Tarantula As far as i know, companies don't even offer these gigabyte limit scams where i live, so i think i'm ok. Seems to be an American phenomenon. Hooray for capitalism. American companies DO have gigabyte limits, they just refuse to tell you what they are. I use comcast, and though I know that there are supposed to be monthly limits on bandwidth, I haven't experienced it either in throttling or by paying over my monthly bill. Hell, last month my server's bandwidth monitor recorded almost 2tb of data added to disk from my 20/3 home cable connection, which is something like 70%(roughly) max download speed for the entire month. That figure doesn't even include uploaded data (as access to the server for streaming to local machines counts as upload and is thus an irrelevant figure). ________ Real men fly Amarr.
Shatner19	Posted - 2010.03.09 04:36:00 - [24] kinda off topic but does ATT u-verse (in the midwest us market) have a bandwidth cap? All this talk about bandwidth caps kinda has me peaked and i cant find any information on att's website.
Usagi Tsukino Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.09 07:18:00 - [25] Edited by: Usagi Tsukino on 09/03/2010 07:20:24 Originally by: Iva Posavec Haven't used it for months but when I was working security on night shifts I would work about 76 hours per week and most of that time was spent on Eve... For some reason I just cannot stop laughing after reading that. (No offense intended - been there, done that, know EXACTLY how boring the job is. ) Originally by: Shatner19 kinda off topic but does ATT u-verse (in the midwest us market) have a bandwidth cap? All this talk about bandwidth caps kinda has me peaked and i cant find any information on att's website. When I had U-Verse they didn't say anything about one. I didn't/don't have one with my standard DSL either and I didn't see one with any of their plans. Could they even tell what was internet traffic and what was your television/phone? All of it comes over the same DSL line. ---
Caia Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.03.09 07:27:00 - [26] Quote: So in short, two years two companies couldn't find or fix the issue yet BT did it within three days. I wont be leaving BT anytime soon thats's for sure. And this is how good companies do business. Not only did they get a customer for a long long time, but free advertising as well. I wish more companies went this route.
My Postman	Posted - 2010.03.09 14:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Brainless Bimbo Originally by: My Postman Do as i, get a Chello high speed connection (48 Ç/month) and be happy with "uber" speed and no limitations. Only restriction is that you have to live in an area where chello is available. Hope this helps. Chello suck when things go wrong, their support staff haven¦t got a clue... always go directly to Complaints dept, never talk to first line, i learnt the hard way. I agree with you to 100 %. WHEN it breaksdown, it is usually saturday afternoon and you can¦t get support for hours. Last time (maybe a month ago, knock on wood), support lady told me she will reset my modem which will need at least 3 (!!) hours. In fact i got my connection back sunday morning. But when working it¦s uber fast and of course uber expensive! @ Guillame Herschel Please sir, for the love of god, please, an AUSTRIAN is NOT a GERMAN. Austria is this little country between germany and italy. This insults me, and you may have guessed, i¦m austrian too. My 2 cents
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.09 14:18:00 - [28] Yes I am insulted too every time....a certain dictator was Austrian after all...
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.09 15:12:00 - [29] Originally by: My Postman @ Guillame Herschel Please sir, for the love of god, please, an AUSTRIAN is NOT a GERMAN. Austria is this little country between germany and italy. This insults me, and you may have guessed, i¦m austrian too. You have pet kangaroos? On a more serious note; what does it mean to be 'austrian to a topic'? Is that like germane, except instead of being related to the topic you're just 'kinda' related. A: 'Is that really germane to our problem?' B: 'Nope, it's austrian.' A: '???' C: 'What B means is our problem's father was married to its mother. They divorced and each had a problem child later, so they're austrian not germane.'
Orion GUardian Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.09 15:24:00 - [30] Rak: Thats sums it up. (I refrain from Austriabashing though) on a histroical note that could be interpreted, too....

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