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Norm Tempesta Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:28:00 - [1] - Quote What kind of corp would ask for this as a condition of you joining? I recently applied to a corporation and they asked me for this stating that I was a former member of an opposing coalition 2 years ago for 3 months. Does this make sense to anyone except as a way to rip someone off?
Singeabooty Raj Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 293	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:46:00 - [2] - Quote Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions. Black Man with Goggles
penifSMASH ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 108	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:49:00 - [3] - Quote Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps.
Norm Tempesta Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:52:00 - [4] - Quote penifSMASH wrote: Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps. Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount.
Cpt Roghie Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 27	Posted - 2012.07.01 20:57:00 - [5] - Quote Norm Tempesta wrote: penifSMASH wrote: Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps. Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount. So you feel if a noob wants to join said corp, he HAS to have the exact amount of isk or he should not bother applying? What kind of nonsense is that? Sec deposits is a clever way to keep the casual awoxer & Spy out. Zzzzzzzz.
vyshnegradsky MNU Operations Luna Sanguinem 3	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:00:00 - [6] - Quote [quote=Norm Tempesta]What kind of corp would ask for this as a condition of you joining? I recently applied to a corporation and they asked me for this stating that I was a former member of an opposing coalition 2 years ago for 3 months. Does this make sense to anyone except as a way to rip someone off?[/quote True Story
Surfin's PlunderBunny Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1635	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:33:00 - [7] - Quote Good corps do that to keep the riff-raff out
Singeabooty Raj Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 293	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:38:00 - [8] - Quote Yes. A 1.5 b security deposit at least demonstrates one is not a total peasant and will not likely resort to mooching once their space vessels blow. Black Man with Goggles
Suqq Madiq Amarr Empire 111	Posted - 2012.07.01 21:40:00 - [9] - Quote Norm Tempesta wrote: What kind of corp would ask for this as a condition of you joining? I recently applied to a corporation and they asked me for this stating that I was a former member of an opposing coalition 2 years ago for 3 months. Does this make sense to anyone except as a way to rip someone off? You can find the results of those who have fallen for this obvious scam in the dozens of threads they've made detailing their stupidity. When it comes to the business of separating a fool from his ISK, business always has been and always will be BOOMING!
Daemon Ceed Jihad Squad from Riyadh Reckless Ambition 226	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:52:00 - [10] - Quote You want in the corp, then you pay the fee. It goes towards time spent training you, helps with ship reimbursement funds, and also recoups losses incurred if you are a spy. Do you have any idea how much ISK can be destroyed because of a single spy? Far more than 1.3bil, I'll tell you that. And seriously, if 1.3bil seems like a lot to you, I think you have more problems than what you are discussing in this thread. I can sneeze and 1.3bil falls out into my kleenex. The Sandbox = Play however the hell you want.
Norm Tempesta Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.07.01 23:24:00 - [11] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1508841#post1508841 Your words Daemon..
GSXRSquid The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.07.01 23:27:00 - [12] - Quote Join the Goons. they are a huge organization, they do not require a deposit and they will ship everything you own from hisec to the null system where you are going.
jeelani juggs Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy 0	Posted - 2012.07.02 02:55:00 - [13] - Quote Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned.
Suqq Madiq Amarr Empire 111	Posted - 2012.07.02 03:02:00 - [14] - Quote jeelani juggs wrote: Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned. Exactly. They scam idiots and part them from their ISK. You were dumb enough to pay a deposit when there likely existed hundreds of threads already full of the tears of fools like you. That you did no research and fell for what is quite obviously a scam speaks more to your gullibility than anything else, really.
Messoroz AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse 258	Posted - 2012.07.02 05:16:00 - [15] - Quote Eats popcorn
Arcturus Archangel Sons of Michael 134	Posted - 2012.07.02 05:46:00 - [16] - Quote You can join me with a security deposit of only 500 Mil. Much better deal then who ever you're trying to get with. [Insert witty quote here]
Morgorathi Unironically Bad Silver Dragonz 9	Posted - 2012.07.02 06:02:00 - [17] - Quote You're welcome in UNIBA, We don't have security deposits. Although you have to pay for your own ships and equipment unless you were killed by a corp member.(Happens a lot)
Janus Varg Smoke Jaguars 10	Posted - 2012.07.02 07:12:00 - [18] - Quote There are a lot of corps. Join another one.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon 72	Posted - 2012.07.02 07:31:00 - [19] - Quote 1,5 bill is not so bad...I know of corps that thake your first-born....AND your wife.
VanDam Caldari Provisions Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.07.02 09:15:00 - [20] - Quote Linky
Maeltstome Caldari Deep Space Ventures Intrepid Crossing 29	Posted - 2012.07.02 11:39:00 - [21] - Quote State that you want to use Chribba's service as a third party holder.
Kenpo Imperial Order of Templars 3	Posted - 2012.07.02 12:34:00 - [22] - Quote Norm Tempesta wrote: penifSMASH wrote: Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps. Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount. Clearly this is not the corp for you to join then, move on and find another corp. Trust no one, especially a corp that asks for a security deposit to join. I certainly don't.
InternetSpaceship GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 96	Posted - 2012.07.02 13:34:00 - [23] - Quote Kenpo wrote: Norm Tempesta wrote: penifSMASH wrote: Confirming the above poster. I use security deposits for my corp for similar reasons. It is standard practice for most high quality corps. Doesn't sound legit to me. Especially without using a third party escrow until certain conditions are met. They have already looked at my wallet per required api submission and use that to determine how much they can ask of me. That is bullshit, if they require a security deposit it should damn well be stated in their recruitment information, and be a set amount. Clearly this is not the corp for you to join then, move on and find another corp. Trust no one, especially a corp that asks for a security deposit to join. I certainly don't. And how are things going in the internet-famous Imperial Order of Templars? OP, long story short, if you want to get into a big, active, successful alliance, you will be putting up some kind of collateral. It sucks, but its a way bigger risk for the corp to bring on a potential spy/awoxer than it is for you to bicker about an inconsequential amount of isk that you're going to get back anyway. When you do big things in Eve, you make big enemies, and you have to have some kind of gateway to try and screen them. It isn't perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing. Those corps don't get so big by just letting everyone who asks in, no questions asked. I'd be more suspicious of a corp that didn't require it. They're either so small and poor they're desperate for any ass who will join, or they're setting you up to steal all your **. jeelani juggs wrote:** Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned. Or perhaps you just didn't make the cut. If our security check picks up that you are a spy trying to get in, don't be all surprised when you don't get the deposit back. No corp is so cordial with potential threats trying to infiltrate. It also comes with being big and successful, just check any thread in GD. "Goons are scammers, goons are botters, goons are really carebears after all, goons really suck at this game, etc, etc." Because, of course, we owe our size and success to scamming all potential recruits and never recruiting anyone into our corp. Sour grapes. Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation. If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.
Norm Tempesta Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.07.02 13:35:00 - [24] - Quote Looks to me like the other people that would like to use the same type of behavior chimed up first, good to see that there are some reasonable people joining in on the discussion. Especially since this is a 3 year old toon with a stable history.
Ristlin Wakefield Wakefield-Dukovsky Conglomerate 25	Posted - 2012.07.02 13:59:00 - [25] - Quote Norm Tempesta wrote: Looks to me like the other people that would like to use the same type of behavior chimed up first, good to see that there are some reasonable people joining in on the discussion. Especially since this is a 3 year old toon with a stable history. I'm surprised after 3 years of playing you haven't realized that this is a common scam.
Lady Skrillex Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation 92	Posted - 2012.07.02 14:38:00 - [26] - Quote Singeabooty Raj wrote: Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions. *Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit.
Singeabooty Raj Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet 293	Posted - 2012.07.02 14:56:00 - [27] - Quote Lady Skrillex wrote: Singeabooty Raj wrote: Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions. *Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit. No, I definately meant to say Sekurity not Security so un-tangle knickers so not yours in a twist. Black Man with Goggles
Tusen Takk Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 5	Posted - 2012.07.02 15:22:00 - [28] - Quote jeelani juggs wrote: Haha! Tried that when I was a noob. They didn't do jack squat except steal my retriever/hurricane and 250 mil. Goons are a scamming corp far as I'm concerned. i apologise for my brethren's behaviour, if you speak to Blawrf Taggert or Woo Glin they will certainly help you join Almighty GoonWaffe and restore your former assets to you, provided that it wasnt for the reasons listed here: InternetSpaceship wrote: Or perhaps you just didn't make the cut. If our security check picks up that you are a spy trying to get in, don't be all surprised when you don't get the deposit back. No corp is so cordial with potential threats trying to infiltrate. It also comes with being big and successful, just check any thread in GD. "Goons are scammers, goons are botters, goons are really carebears after all, goons really suck at this game, etc, etc." Because, of course, we owe our size and success to scamming all potential recruits and never recruiting anyone into our corp thanks and have a wonderful day, Tusen Takk
Longinius Spear Semper Ubi Sub Ubi New Eden Confederacy 84	Posted - 2012.07.02 17:02:00 - [29] - Quote Lady Skrillex wrote: Singeabooty Raj wrote: Sekurity Deposits are sometimes required to establish that you are legitimate and have good intentions. *Security, and use a trusted third party if you decide too. Maybe even send a evemail to the corp CEO; and make sure said member isn't using the corps name for their own benefeit. Seems legit.
Kara Books Deal with IT. 180	Posted - 2012.07.02 17:45:00 - [30] - Quote scamming is not against the EULA, Just saying =) you bout to get scammed.

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