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Anabella Rella Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:17:00 - [31] Disclaimer: Opinions expressed by this pilot are hers alone and not to be construed as "official" endorsement/sanction/communication on behalf of either Gradient Corp. or Electus Matari alliance. With that out of the way; I'll see you in hell Deshat. What you want is irrelevant. What you've chosen is at hand.
Seraphim Risen Minmatar Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:43:00 - [32] Originally by: Deshat Mehatek Originally by: Seraphim Risen From that audio recording, I hear nothing of him becoming violent. What of the end, where you call him slave? Why have we not heard from him since? Capsuleers aren't subject to the same laws as the others on a station. I don't think you did turn him over at all. "I am curious as to what part of threatening to burn my livelyhood and family tradition down you consider to not be violent? Or have you become so mired in violence and brutality among your fellows that such threats are commonplace to you?" The part that he is clearly unable to do it? Have you seen him lately? The man walks with a cane! I highly doubt he could actually carry out any such deed. ----------------------------------- The Republic has failed and abandoned its people. I can no longer stand beneath its flag and honestly say I believe in my cause.
Ithiria Deritan	Posted - 2010.03.09 20:35:00 - [33] holo activates I find you and this place disgusting and speaking as a Holder and a fairly well known holder, you are a DISGRACE to the amarrian race. You dont have them wear anywhere near decent clothing, chained and collared fine, some slaves do need that, but even they deserve the right to be properly clothed unless you are just selling sex slaves. And enslaving a cripple, for what, threatening to burn down your place? I'll come do it myself, and giggle and laugh the entire time, going to try enslaving me to for it, I dare you to come try. You'll Find me in the Gid system if you do. Free this batch or clothe them at least and start following the rules and laws. and If I find out you have recaptured even one of the ones the empress has freed, You will be wearing one of my collars, and you will not enjoy the experiance. *holo ends
Kismo	Posted - 2010.03.09 20:54:00 - [34] A small Achura with a targeting eyepatch, black suit, and a strikingly colorful bird begins speaking: I'll make you a deal. You contract your entire stock of slaves to me in Kourmonen or Auga for 1M ISK and my promise not to come hunt you down. I also suggest canceling your clone contract and turning yourself in to the Empire's authorities on gross religious violations. If and/or when I receive the slaves, I will contract them to the ranking member of the TLF for rehabilitation and reintegration into the Republic's society. If you do not comply, understand that I will use the business end of 1400mm Howitzers to speak to you next, and that the formalities of a declaration of war are but trappings to one such as me. Remember to fly what you cannot afford to lose.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:25:00 - [35] What's this, Kismo? Extortion? -----
Kismo	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:42:00 - [36] Edited by: Kismo on 09/03/2010 21:43:38 Nonsense, this is not extortion, it's simple trading. It seems that his entire stock of slaves is quite a good deal in return for one million ISK, the safety of his assets, and continued personal existence. See, I am giving him such a good deal, and even giving him a substantial sum of ISK. How can it possibly be extortion? * Kismo smiles engagingly, adjusts his eyepatch, and pets his colorful bird and continues. Also, I have always said that we are Freedom Fighters. Sometimes you have to get your hands a little dirty.
Caellach Marellus	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:04:00 - [37] I find the shock and disgust from Amarrians here who utilise Slaves themselves to be humourous in the most ironic way. Perhaps now you realise how the rest of the Cluster views you, and that if your hypocrisy teaches you anything it's how wrong you have been all this time. As for you Deshat, I'll see you burn before my time is through. -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:16:00 - [38] Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 09/03/2010 22:17:21 Originally by: Caellach Marellus I find the shock and disgust from Amarrians here who utilise Slaves themselves to be humourous in the most ironic way. Perhaps now you realise how the rest of the Cluster views you, and that if your hypocrisy teaches you anything it's how wrong you have been all this time. As for you Deshat, I'll see you burn before my time is through. Make no mistake. While I despise pressing slaves into prostitution or to do other vile and immoral acts hurtful to their enlightenment I have no qualms about putting murderers, rapists and other criminals of the worst kind who have been sentenced to slavery to do the most dangerous and deadly labor known to mankind. You delude yourself if you think you have "taught" me anything.
Caellach Marellus	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:26:00 - [39] Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 09/03/2010 22:17:21 Originally by: Caellach Marellus I find the shock and disgust from Amarrians here who utilise Slaves themselves to be humourous in the most ironic way. Perhaps now you realise how the rest of the Cluster views you, and that if your hypocrisy teaches you anything it's how wrong you have been all this time. As for you Deshat, I'll see you burn before my time is through. Make no mistake. While I despise pressing slaves into prostitution or to do other vile and immoral acts hurtful to their enlightenment I have no qualms about putting murderers, rapists and other criminals of the worst kind who have been sentenced to slavery to do the most dangerous and deadly labor known to mankind. You delude yourself if you think you have "taught" me anything. And of the Matari Slaves captured years ago and forced to work as servants in the households of the Rich and Wealthy? Those who's only crime was being at the wrong place at the wrong time while your kinsmen denied them their freedom and stole their lives? The hypocrisy shines through there, there is far too much "Do as I say, not as I do" in this discussion. -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
Kismo	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:28:00 - [40] Edited by: Kismo on 09/03/2010 22:29:44 Lucius Vindictus, it seems as though murderers, rapists, and other serious criminals should perhaps be permanently incarcerated (and perhaps paying their debt to society through forced labor) rather than enslaved. There are several key differences, not limited to personal choices leading to incarceration, arbitrary enslavement of others, and the enslavement of a slave's offspring. No, the Empire is a rotting corpse riding high upon the back of the vile practice of slavery.
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:37:00 - [41] Originally by: Deshat Mehatek Originally by: Norrin Ellis I won't debate the legality or merits of your business. I'm simply going to ask you politely to cease and desist. No. You really leave me no choice but to ask less politely. When the vote clears, expect CONCORD to deliver my sentiments directly.
Deshat Mehatek Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:39:00 - [42] Deary me, will you all stop yammering about sex slaves until you come and actually look? If you do, you will find we do not trade slaves for this purpose! Yes, it was stupid of me to assume that everyone would realise no respectable agency would do such things, but drop it already! Ithiria Deritan, Lucius Vindictus, Jakiim, Merdaneth, any of you! Come and look over our operations and form your own decisions! As to 'enslaving' a cripple, I have done no such thing. He was questioned by security as a legitimate threat and released! Sheesh!
Ithiria Deritan	Posted - 2010.03.09 22:46:00 - [43] Originally by: Kismo Edited by: Kismo on 09/03/2010 22:29:44 Lucius Vindictus, it seems as though murderers, rapists, and other serious criminals should perhaps be permanently incarcerated (and perhaps paying their debt to society through forced labor) rather than enslaved. There are several key differences, not limited to personal choices leading to incarceration, arbitrary enslavement of others, and the enslavement of a slave's offspring. No, the Empire is a rotting corpse riding high upon the back of the vile practice of slavery. I woul point out Kismo, Prison, and force labor, is jut a government wide form of enslavement, by the strictest sense of the word. For my slaves, I will point out they are granted more freedom than Prison, and their offspring should they have any are free people, i will not enslave their children. Then again all my slaves are bought from prisons for crimes.
Borgh Brainbasher Path of Now and Forever	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:12:00 - [44] Hello, I am Borgh Brainbasher, traveling saleman. I hear you ask, what do you sell then my good man? Well I am here soley for your benefit! For I sell insurance against the most common work related accident for slavers: Getting Shot In The Face. Getting Shot In The Face is a very serious problem that claims hundreds of somewhat innocent victims each year. For you my dear madam I have a one time offer: full Getting Shot In The Face insurance for only 20 milion isk! just send me the money and I will do the rest! No need to worry your holy head off with work safety, thats what us minmatar are for! So, don't let the silent (if silencers are used, otherwise its actually quite loud) killer, Getting Shot In The Face, get you! --- Warning: You are on the pvp only server.
Kismo	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:15:00 - [45] Regardless of where you get your slaves, we all know that the Empire has very loose definitions of what constitutes a criminal act.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Caellach Marellus And of the Matari Slaves captured years ago and forced to work as servants in the households of the Rich and Wealthy? Those who's only crime was being at the wrong place at the wrong time while your kinsmen denied them their freedom and stole their lives? The hypocrisy shines through there, there is far too much "Do as I say, not as I do" in this discussion. My ancestors deemed the Minmatar spiritually unworthy of freedom at the time. I believe slavery had it's place in our past and indeed remains to have in the present. How much longer that system is going to remain sustainable however is debatable though. In recent times we Amarrians find ourselves forced to recognise the Minmatar as an independant people with their own culture and sovereign government a after they rejected us in the harshest manner. It is my personal view that reclaiming other cultures is no longer viable and we should deal with them on a more equal footing if we want to get ahead. I will let my empress be my moral guide, and her words prophesized the end of the age of slavery. Originally by: Kismo Edited by: Kismo on 09/03/2010 22:29:44 Lucius Vindictus, it seems as though murderers, rapists, and other serious criminals should perhaps be permanently incarcerated (and perhaps paying their debt to society through forced labor) rather than enslaved. There are several key differences, not limited to personal choices leading to incarceration, arbitrary enslavement of others, and the enslavement of a slave's offspring. No, the Empire is a rotting corpse riding high upon the back of the vile practice of slavery. How is permanent incarceration more humane than the relative freedom of movement and worth to society that slavery offers? Does your prison system offer a similar chance to redemption that we offer? I think not.
Seraphim Risen Minmatar Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.03.09 23:50:00 - [47] Originally by: Deshat Mehatek As to 'enslaving' a cripple, I have done no such thing. He was questioned by security as a legitimate threat and released! Sheesh! Why have we not seen him yet, then? Why were you calling him slave in that recording? ----------------------------------- The Republic has failed and abandoned its people. I can no longer stand beneath its flag and honestly say I believe in my cause.
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.10 00:54:00 - [48] I am very skeptical about your claims of religious education. While your opening post could be "humor" as you stated I tend to see a very alarming seriousness in it's composure. I have my doubts as to your religious offerings. Remember that slavery is a means to enlightenment not a means to cheap labor and "personal" servants. If the end goal of enlightenment is not your objective your entire business model is flawed. I have been in contact with Lord Murkon of the SPCS and asked him to assemble a set of new guidelines for slave treatment. These will be published for public review before being approved or disapproved by myself and a new SPCS Advisory Council (not yet selected). Then the SPCS will award a "seal of approval" to slave organizations who meet the high quality standards of the SPCS in both treatment and religious opportunity. I will be very interested to see if your organization will make the commitment. Archbishop SPCS Director & PIE Admiral PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP PORTAL
dibblebill Beyond Our Sins Redneck Rage	Posted - 2010.03.10 03:28:00 - [49] That was an unpleasant interlude. My offer for you to free them into my custody still stands. SPLUD
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.03.10 20:02:00 - [50] Heritage Foundation has declared war on Mehatek Slave Services. Within 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.03.11 03:14:00 - [51] I would be very interested in touring your facility and would likewise like to issue a public report here for review. You of course are under no obligation to accept. While I have some doubts as to your claims of "humane treatment" and decency after your initial posting I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Please contact me if you are interested. Lord Murkon SPCS CEO SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
Gemma Naquist Kuomi Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.11 05:01:00 - [52] I'm sure that this person, like a lot of the other "new faces" we've seen lately, was sponsored by someone who wanted to kick over an anthill and that he and his corp will be a steaming pile of biomass in the next few days....or hours. KUOMI LOGISTICS: The bright future, today!Ö
dibblebill Beyond Our Sins Redneck Rage	Posted - 2010.03.11 13:01:00 - [53] If the source of my latest group of liberated slaves is to be believed... Someone's already purchased the entire market's entire slave population's freedom with counterfeit money. SPLUD
Deshat Mehatek Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.11 23:29:00 - [54] I am proud to announce that one Ithiria Deritan has purchased the entire open stock at the new market in Ohide. This represents an unprecedented value in a single sale, and the unexpected profit has already been put to good use: The purchase of a specialized new "hunt and capture" cruiser-class hull which will be assigned to operations in Devoid and the Bleak Lands, along with a pair of industrial transports. I must also note that the slave market has already been restocked with items from our other markets and facilities. You need not worry about being unable to find the slave to suit you, and our offer to allow third-party observation to assure the public that such sinful acts as were suggested earlier are not actually occuring.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.03.12 00:59:00 - [55] Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 12/03/2010 01:00:52 Originally by: Deshat Mehatek I am proud to announce that one Ithiria Deritan has purchased the entire open stock at the new market in Ohide. This represents an unprecedented value in a single sale, and the unexpected profit has already been put to good use: The purchase of a specialized new "hunt and capture" cruiser-class hull which will be assigned to operations in Devoid and the Bleak Lands, along with a pair of industrial transports. I must also note that the slave market has already been restocked with items from our other markets and facilities. You need not worry about being unable to find the slave to suit you, and our offer to allow third-party observation to assure the public that such sinful acts as were suggested earlier are not actually occuring. Hmm, so you are upgrading production? I am not a great appreciator of comedy, so I will look beyond your attempt at humor if you are sincere in pursuing a serious career in the slave trade. If you allow Lord Murkon to inspect your facilities and show me his seal of approval I might be interested in purchasing several thousand first generation slaves for front-line duty on starships. I am loathe to risk the lives of slaves that haven't committed crimes against the Empire themselves; therefore I prefer enslaved prisoners of war by far. Let me know if you are willing to subject to inspection and I will visit your establishment afterwards.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.03.12 09:23:00 - [56] This is just to officially notify Deshat Mehatek and her corporation,'Mehatek Slave Services,' are now "negative ten" to Valklear Guard. If you truly pilot your ships outside of a station dock, and are present in Devoid and The Bleak Lands, you will face another war declaration. I recommend you rethink your business practice. You will find those profiting off slavery to be a dying breed. Potential business opportunity? Perhaps, depending on how you see it, and how long you plan to stay in business. ------------------------------------------------
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.03.12 18:16:00 - [57] Today at 16:34, Deshat Mehatek's Impairor-class frigate was destroyed in the first engagement of the war. While the value of the property, including the ship and its cargo, is negligible, Ms. Mehatek informs me that a single slave was aboard. I consider this an incredibly unfortunate loss. Since her original advertisement that outraged both pro- and anti-slavery elements alike, Ms. Mehatek has attempted to backpedal and paint her business in a more favorable light. Lord Murkon has requested the opportunity to review Ms. Mehatek's operations to evaluate compliance with SPCS guidelines. I encourage the SPCS not to be fooled by any ruse intended to cover up the truth. In the meantime, I have notified Ms. Mehatek that I remain open to accepting her unconditional surrender. I would prefer to remain neutral in what I would typically characterize as either an internal Imperial matter or an Amarr-Matari conflict, yet the seemingly grievous nature of Ms. Mehatek's operation demands an active compassion for the people she treats as animals. I will continue to employ my limited manpower and resources to inflict as much damage upon her spaceborne assets as possible, and I welcome any assistance in tracking her movements through space. Cessation of hostilities will occur only under the following conditions: Unconditional Surrender Ms. Mehatek will turn over all slaves currently in custody to Louella Dougans of SHOSK or her designee, so they can be returned home or accommodated humanely. Mehatek Slave Services will cease all operations.
Deshat Mehatek Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.13 01:40:00 - [58] Originally by: Lucius Vindictus Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 12/03/2010 01:00:52 Hmm, so you are upgrading production? I am not a great appreciator of comedy, so I will look beyond your attempt at humor if you are sincere in pursuing a serious career in the slave trade. If you allow Lord Murkon to inspect your facilities and show me his seal of approval I might be interested in purchasing several thousand first generation slaves for front-line duty on starships. I am loathe to risk the lives of slaves that haven't committed crimes against the Empire themselves; therefore I prefer enslaved prisoners of war by far. Let me know if you are willing to subject to inspection and I will visit your establishment afterwards. I am willing to go through with this inspection, and am confident I will pass. I think I will wait until the new rules come out, though, to make a double inspection unneccesary. As to the day's events: Yes, an Imparior hull was lost. This frankly proved to be nothing more than a delay of mere seconds, as within half a minute I was on my way into the low-security areas nearby to facilitate the pickup of further new assets captured in the warzone. During this trip, I passed thorugh Devoid, the Bleak Lands, as wel as Heimatar without any interdiction or even attempt to stop my by republic forces or elements of the Tribal militi. I guess mintor's bark is worse than his bite. Don't make promises you can't keep, little animal. Finally, I would like to note that the only person who has chosen to visit my market to verify the veracity of my statements - despite being a vocal critic who made their opinion known in this very discussion - found my more recent statements concerning my treatment of my charges to be truthful enough to do buisness with me.
Eran Mintor Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.03.13 02:14:00 - [59] Perhaps I decided it was not worth wasting ISK on a pilot I would never see....or perhaps you spoke too soon. I find it hilarious how demanding you seem to be though a bit peculiar. ------------------------------------------------
Tom Hanks The Inf1dels	Posted - 2010.03.13 08:25:00 - [60] How old are these girl slaves out of curiosity? Whats the youngest ones you have? Caldari Racial Purity

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