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Solid Prefekt
Haven Front
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Posted - 2010.03.09 16:41:00 -
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Say I have about 10 bil isk sitting in the wallet collecting dust and most of my Eve time is already committed. Are there any ways to make some relatively passive isk out of this, even if the profit is small? It seems like the simplest is making BPC's and selling those? Also not interested in investing any player created bond stuff.
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Miik Lah'Peheir
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Posted - 2010.03.09 16:58:00 -
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Also not interested in investing any player created bond stuff.
Then why tout your 10bil ISK?
To answer your question: Datacores.
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Macon Squaredealer
Squaredeal Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:04:00 -
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I wouldn't agree that making, transporting, marketing, and selling BPC's was exactly "passive income".
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Cyaxares II
Gallente
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:21:00 -
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long-term speculation on T1 and T2 materials.
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Oriss Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: Oriss Amarr on 09/03/2010 17:23:24
There is no passive isk faucet in EVE. Everythin require some attention.
EDIT: See above, that's about as passive as it gets. Buy up something, wait a while, hope it goes up, and sell for profit.
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steveid
GK Lite
Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.03.09 17:31:00 -
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Spend 8 bil on four characters that can fly gila's.
Buy 4 gila's with t2 rigs.
Use them to afk missions while you do what you do.
Its not very passive but you can expect 20 mil an hour from four accounts. Ten minutes work should allow you to get 80 million any time you need to. You do that two or three times a night and you have a nice income for not much work.
Good thing about this is you can sell the char's if you get bored of them at a later date and you can be working those char's up into capitals for your own personal capital fleet.
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Solid Prefekt
Haven Front
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Posted - 2010.03.09 18:29:00 -
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Was not saying to do no work, just minimal amount and make the isk I have work for me. Right now the isk just sits in wallet making nothing. And already doing some market speculation (the mineral price crash is not helping). And already researching datacores, but that doesn't take advantage of the extra isk i have.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:16:00 -
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Speculation.
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DS S
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:26:00 -
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invest in someone's long term project.
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Dzil
Caldari
SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.03.09 19:55:00 -
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Buy a research character, put it to work generating datacores. Occasionally pick them up.
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Mahke
Aeon Of Strife
Discord.
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Posted - 2010.03.09 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Speculation.
Which is neither passive (gotta do your research) nor safe/low-return.
the most "passive" income for a ****ton of isk is blueprint copying. It's also so low return you're better off just staying liquid so you can take opportunities as they come.
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ABITA
Gallente
Old Farts Club
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.03.09 21:04:00 -
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Trade & build.
Why? Because once you find your slot in the market, you can use 15 mins daily to produce all the ISK you need. I had that once, 380 M ISK daily for 15 mins of work. Sadly that market has been dead for ages now.
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Jacabon Mere
Caldari
Quantum Horizons
Skynet Confederation
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Posted - 2010.03.09 23:43:00 -
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Buy high value bpo's. BS ones for example and research them. Check them once a month see if they are worth selling.
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Chssmius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.10 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Chssmius on 10/03/2010 07:28:38
Park one alt in a mission hub.
Park a second alt in a neighboring region market hub, or same region as mission hub if you are lazy or not good at figuring buy order overlap.
Park a third alt in Jita.
Use mission hub alt to place system buy orders on region specific high isk-volume salvage components(unit volume * unit value = isk volume).
Use market hub alts to check prices.
Update buy order pricing once or twice a day.
Whenever the mood takes you afk-autopilot hauler frigate full of salvage to Jita so I can cargo scan you and blow you up in my dessie haul to best market and sell.
Repeat.
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Should take 20 minutes or less a day plus about an hour round trip for the hauling however often you want to cash in. This assumes you are not an incompetent trader. There are ways of improving this process, the isk-volume is probably not going to keep 10 bill that busy, there is some risk, some may not enjoy this method.
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Tribal Trader
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Posted - 2010.03.10 07:54:00 -
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Buy some bpos copy them. Pick up a months supply of datacores. Invent the bpcs. At months end sell bpcs and re-stock datacores.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.10 15:08:00 -
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If you want a passive income and have the science skills for research then invest in expensive BPOs and make BPCs.
If you do not have the science skills you will have to probably settle for capital growth not income. Invest in Characters and train them up, login them on only update their skills.
If you are prepared to accept some investment risk for a good return then invest in the mineral basket excluding pyerite and trit (low risk) or Technetium and it's compounds (medium risk).
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Nouva MacGyver
Caldari
MacGyver Communications
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Posted - 2010.03.10 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Solid Prefekt
Was not saying to do no work, just minimal amount and make the isk I have work for me.
Contrary to your own statement making investments in bonds, etc can be the thing you're looking for (not entirely "passive" per se, but still...). Provided of course, you're willing to accept the varying degrees of risk from one investment to another. Just spend a little time to research and make more informed decisions. What's EVE without risks right?
Just from my own perspective I've invested much less than 10bil into various bonds/ventures and garnering a comfortable average interest rate that pays for plexes and other monthly upkeep/expenses, without having to play or log in at the moment other than chatting and catching up with corp mates and friends when I do have the time to.
Point is investments can work for you too, so might be wise to not close the door on those entirely and reconsider your stance. Kindly feel free to ignore the entirety of this post though if you're vehemently against the idea.
Have a good day!
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.03.10 16:39:00 -
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The BPOs that take time to copy, Cloaking, nullsec ore Mining crystals, just run off MAX RUN as many as you can per month. Sell em for invention.
Even with copy implant, on advance lab you can only make 3 MAX run BPC per Cloaking device. It's an untapped market mostly because of high level of entry, 100mil per BPO and you produce 3 max run BPCs per month. So to make it worth your while you need a good number of them. Well a single character can eat up 1.1B worth in BPOs alone.
30 days later you have, 33 BPCs. Each BPC sells for about... I have no idea how much.. It's not really something I've seen on contract. I see HEAPS of 1 Run BPCs on there. But I can tell you, they only produce 1 Tech II cloaking device if invented successfully. A 100 run produces 10 Tech II. The going rate is about 10mil for 10, 1 run BPCs (At least contract right now) but these are useless in my opinion. A 10 Run BPC could probably go for 10mil by itself. Maybe.
You could choose to go the extra step and actually invent those BPCs, Even at a 40% chance of invention, 33 BPCs should produce 13, 10 run Tech II BPCs.
130 Covert op cloaking devices which sell for about 7mil in Jita is 910,000,000 ISK. Cost is about 2.5mil to 3mil a unit to make these things. Over all you're looking at a profit of ~500mil a month. That's not bad considering you spend about 30 days making copies, a couple of days inventing (Each invention takes about 17 hours so that's 2.1 days of invention) then to make 130 of them takes about 10 days.
You're total time spent for about 500mil comes out to be about 45days, or about 10-12mil a day. As good as any other passive income, and "touch time" to do it all is very minimal, Install, wait 30 days, Invent every 17 hours three times, produce every 4 days. Then goto Jita and dump into buy orders.
The rest of the 8Billion spend on market speculation.
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Dramaticus
GoonWaffe
SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.10 19:58:00 -
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Scam.
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Chssmius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.12 06:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dramaticus
Scam.
I think that would take up too much time, actually. The most monetarily effective and least risky scams I am aware of require at least some salesman tactics and virtual "face-time" pushing your product(unless you bot which is a nice way to get yourself banned). Corp and alliance based scamming and/or theft are riskier(black listing mostly), can be more complicated, and I would think they take much longer to perpetrate. On an individual level at least you are likely to get the individuals who are "under the influence" of...various substances while making purchasing decisions.
I am not denying its profitability, but the time commitment is probably more than what the op is looking for. Besides, scamming doesn't generally take that much money to get going. He already has 10 bill which is nothing to sneeze and is just hoping to make some good use of it.
Speculation is probably the easiest to do, and one of the riskiest. Just a couple mouse clicks and sit on it for awhile, hope it goes up or at least doesn't fall too much.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.03.12 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chssmius
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Generally speaking I'd agree, but there are some lower maintenance scams.
For example: http://eve-scam.com/scam.php?id=15
The only real time spent in this scam was developing the website and the content for it.
Actual time spent in game involves having an instance of EVE open that you paste a message into local chat and noobie corp chat every 15-30 minutes.
If you're at work and you can load EVE in the background, it's pretty passive.
However, if you're poking into EVE a few times per hour, you could just as easily be updating orders.
Very light management of orders in slower regions with lower volume, high margin goods can be pretty passive. I have orders I update a few times per week and still manage to make a few hundred million ISK per month from it (this is on Riethe, and not on a dedicated trading character.) With the kind of capital this guy claims to have, it should be just as viable.
Truly passive income is in the form of datacores. Once you've got yourself a few alts going, it's literally the most passive thing you can do, short of investing in player corporations. But with guaranteed returns and no chance of being scammed.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.12 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
Originally by: Chssmius
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Generally speaking I'd agree, but there are some lower maintenance scams.
For example: http://eve-scam.com/scam.php?id=15
The only real time spent in this scam was developing the website and the content for it.
Actual time spent in game involves having an instance of EVE open that you paste a message into local chat and noobie corp chat every 15-30 minutes.
If you're at work and you can load EVE in the background, it's pretty passive.
However, if you're poking into EVE a few times per hour, you could just as easily be updating orders.
Very light management of orders in slower regions with lower volume, high margin goods can be pretty passive. I have orders I update a few times per week and still manage to make a few hundred million ISK per month from it (this is on Riethe, and not on a dedicated trading character.) With the kind of capital this guy claims to have, it should be just as viable.
Truly passive income is in the form of datacores. Once you've got yourself a few alts going, it's literally the most passive thing you can do, short of investing in player corporations. But with guaranteed returns and no chance of being scammed.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar
Toroidal Bum-Donuts
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Posted - 2010.03.12 12:12:00 -
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data core farming seems like ludicrously slow income considering the SP you need to invest in it.
about 2.5mil per day with 6 agents bubbling?
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Miik Lah'Peheir
Port Royal Independent Kontractors
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Posted - 2010.03.12 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
data core farming seems like ludicrously slow income considering the SP you need to invest in it.
about 2.5mil per day with 6 agents bubbling?
It's called passive income for a reason, it's by no means a lottery ticket.
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Joe Censored
Unknown-Entity
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:50:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Censored on 13/03/2010 00:53:14
How about since I am quiting Eve and I recently have won the Eve lottery, if you send me your 10 bil isk I will send you back 20 bil. My Eve lottery winnings are just currently locked up in the Nigeria corp's wallet, and they want 10 bil back first before I can get access to my isk. This offer is also open to everyone
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clixoras
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Posted - 2010.03.13 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Taua Roqa
data core farming seems like ludicrously slow income considering the SP you need to invest in it.
about 2.5mil per day with 6 agents bubbling?
Let's assume 5 agents because ca 30 days for research pm is probably not worth it.
It does add up, but people forget you have to COLLECT the DC's, and the good agents are usually scattered so, not entirely passive.
The only true passive income is investing in a bond / ipo whatever.
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Barbicane
TGUN Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.13 18:55:00 -
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Morphite is at an all time low. If you buy 10b worth, it just might be enough to turn the downward trend. If not, just sit on it for 6 months and you will most likely be able to sell it for a nice profit. (Backup plan: sit on it for yet another 6 months... repeat if necessary ;))
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Emporer Norton
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Posted - 2010.03.15 23:33:00 -
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Buy 10 large caldari towers and run reactions on them depending on prices and reactions run can be 50-200 mill/wk profit/tower
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