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Lorth
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Posted - 2004.11.29 23:15:00 -
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Still fighting, though it has slowed down with exodus as most of the pilots from both sides are in empire buying and trying the new goodies that came out.
Its like that with every allience and 0.0 corp. Look on the map and you'll see that 0.0 is more of a ghost land then it was before the patch. Expect to see things pikc up all over the eve universe in a week or two when people start to head to 0.0 for some fun after spending all thier isk in empire.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2004.11.29 23:15:00 -
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Still fighting, though it has slowed down with exodus as most of the pilots from both sides are in empire buying and trying the new goodies that came out.
Its like that with every allience and 0.0 corp. Look on the map and you'll see that 0.0 is more of a ghost land then it was before the patch. Expect to see things pikc up all over the eve universe in a week or two when people start to head to 0.0 for some fun after spending all thier isk in empire.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.29 23:18:00 -
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ECM?
 Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.11.29 23:18:00 -
[34]
ECM?
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda
How did it happen? I dunno, perhaps the double-oversized AB ferox just orbited at 15k, scrambled and killed it.
I cant think of a single thing a demios could do to possibly kill that ferox alone. The only choices are to dock or jump, which apparently werent options.
Well given that the Deimos is constructed to close and soak kinetic and thermal damage using mwd, web, and armour tanking. I must agree with jOsephine, it seems quite a good kill from the Ferox guy. (maybe he was using some wierd double web and energy draining method and just chipped the deimos to death).
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda
How did it happen? I dunno, perhaps the double-oversized AB ferox just orbited at 15k, scrambled and killed it.
I cant think of a single thing a demios could do to possibly kill that ferox alone. The only choices are to dock or jump, which apparently werent options.
Well given that the Deimos is constructed to close and soak kinetic and thermal damage using mwd, web, and armour tanking. I must agree with jOsephine, it seems quite a good kill from the Ferox guy. (maybe he was using some wierd double web and energy draining method and just chipped the deimos to death).
Star Fraction
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Well given that the Deimos is constructed to close and soak kinetic and thermal damage using mwd, web, and armour tanking. I must agree with jOsephine, it seems quite a good kill from the Ferox guy. (maybe he was using some wierd double web and energy draining method and just chipped the deimos to death).
Why would you need webs? The demios doesnt have the speed to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox, and as long as you have a 20k scrambler on the BC, that assault cruiser isnt going anywhere except a gate or a station.
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.30 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Well given that the Deimos is constructed to close and soak kinetic and thermal damage using mwd, web, and armour tanking. I must agree with jOsephine, it seems quite a good kill from the Ferox guy. (maybe he was using some wierd double web and energy draining method and just chipped the deimos to death).
Why would you need webs? The demios doesnt have the speed to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox, and as long as you have a 20k scrambler on the BC, that assault cruiser isnt going anywhere except a gate or a station.
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 01:45:00 -
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"Why would you need webs? The demios doesnt have the speed to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox, and as long as you have a 20k scrambler on the BC, that assault cruiser isnt going anywhere except a gate or a station."
Well, if you say the Ferox was orbitting at 15 km then non-webbed Gallente cruiser (less mass, more agile) with MWD shouldn't really have much problem with closing that 5 km needed for web to catch on with a well timed u-turn... but maybe had no webber on the blaster ship, then can see how it'd work. ^^;;
(no biggie really on second thought, BCs should be able to win some encounters after all... just gives the "wtf" reaction first time one sees it ^^
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 01:45:00 -
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"Why would you need webs? The demios doesnt have the speed to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox, and as long as you have a 20k scrambler on the BC, that assault cruiser isnt going anywhere except a gate or a station."
Well, if you say the Ferox was orbitting at 15 km then non-webbed Gallente cruiser (less mass, more agile) with MWD shouldn't really have much problem with closing that 5 km needed for web to catch on with a well timed u-turn... but maybe had no webber on the blaster ship, then can see how it'd work. ^^;;
(no biggie really on second thought, BCs should be able to win some encounters after all... just gives the "wtf" reaction first time one sees it ^^
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Zerodragoon
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:25:00 -
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Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web.
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Zerodragoon
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:25:00 -
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Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zerodragoon
Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web.
Yeah but the battlecruiser doesn't have mega grid so if its got dual 100mw burners exactly what is it firing at 15 klicks that will get through the Deimos tanking?
lol, must admit this Deimos vs Ferox matter is much more interesting than the original idea for this thread.
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Zerodragoon
Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web.
Yeah but the battlecruiser doesn't have mega grid so if its got dual 100mw burners exactly what is it firing at 15 klicks that will get through the Deimos tanking?
lol, must admit this Deimos vs Ferox matter is much more interesting than the original idea for this thread.
Star Fraction
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:43:00 -
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My money's on the Deimos if both pilots are equally skilled.
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K. Raven
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2004.11.30 02:43:00 -
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My money's on the Deimos if both pilots are equally skilled.
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K. Raven
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 03:32:00 -
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"Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web."
How fast is Ferox with dual ABs? o.o;
only had Thorax at hand to check but on the same ship:
with 10 mn mwd: ~1230 km/sec
with dual abs: ~4175 km/sec, ~1050 with the basic web on
so am guessing with mass/speed difference for Ferox that's something like 3.5 km/sec, ~900 m/sec fully webbed? o.O;
(too skint to spend the money on TQ and test it out for good, and chaos seem deserted atm >>;;
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.11.30 03:32:00 -
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"Um dual ab ships can shoot right out of a web."
How fast is Ferox with dual ABs? o.o;
only had Thorax at hand to check but on the same ship:
with 10 mn mwd: ~1230 km/sec
with dual abs: ~4175 km/sec, ~1050 with the basic web on
so am guessing with mass/speed difference for Ferox that's something like 3.5 km/sec, ~900 m/sec fully webbed? o.O;
(too skint to spend the money on TQ and test it out for good, and chaos seem deserted atm >>;;
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.30 03:44:00 -
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You'd have to get very lucky to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox inside 10k with a single MWD demios, since he can orbit at 19k and fire heavy missiles (since heavy launchers fit on dual 100mn setups with ease).
Yeah, if the ferox comes inside 10k its toast. But it wont because it doesnt have to.
Just comes down to can the demios tank the damage output, and it looks like it couldnt.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.11.30 03:44:00 -
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You'd have to get very lucky to catch a dual-100mn AB ferox inside 10k with a single MWD demios, since he can orbit at 19k and fire heavy missiles (since heavy launchers fit on dual 100mn setups with ease).
Yeah, if the ferox comes inside 10k its toast. But it wont because it doesnt have to.
Just comes down to can the demios tank the damage output, and it looks like it couldnt.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.11.30 04:49:00 -
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..I want Spider Drones.....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2004.11.30 04:49:00 -
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..I want Spider Drones.....
B.A.D.B.O.Y.: Biomechanical Android Designed for Battle and Online Yelling
"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
Thermal is by far not the weakest point of the deimos. Gallente are not serpentis.
A Dual AB Ferox loadout doesn't have the firepower to overcome a properly fitted deimos.
So the deimos was poorly fitted assuming it's pilot was not asleep or afk :P.
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora Panda
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
Thermal is by far not the weakest point of the deimos. Gallente are not serpentis.
A Dual AB Ferox loadout doesn't have the firepower to overcome a properly fitted deimos.
So the deimos was poorly fitted assuming it's pilot was not asleep or afk :P.
**Pain is meant to be felt** |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Pandora Panda
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
Thermal is by far not the weakest point of the deimos. Gallente are not serpentis.
A Dual AB Ferox loadout doesn't have the firepower to overcome a properly fitted deimos.
So the deimos was poorly fitted assuming it's pilot was not asleep or afk :P.
just for info;
the pilot that was flying the ferox had 2 medium pulse II fitted with radio S crystals.
2 heavy arbalest launchers with thermal missiles,
3 heavy arbalest launchers with explosive missiles.
that was enough firepower to take out the deimos  |
TWD
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:35:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
Originally by: Pandora Panda
Then just spray heavy missiles at it until it dies. Yeah, it can tank well, but a ferox does pretty good damage, and the ferox pilot was smart to switch to thermal damage (which gallente are relatively weak to).
Thermal is by far not the weakest point of the deimos. Gallente are not serpentis.
A Dual AB Ferox loadout doesn't have the firepower to overcome a properly fitted deimos.
So the deimos was poorly fitted assuming it's pilot was not asleep or afk :P.
just for info;
the pilot that was flying the ferox had 2 medium pulse II fitted with radio S crystals.
2 heavy arbalest launchers with thermal missiles,
3 heavy arbalest launchers with explosive missiles.
that was enough firepower to take out the deimos |
ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:48:00 -
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^What TWD said^
It also helps not to click to warp to the wrong gate ultimately getting in dual-web range of the same Ferox pilot and losing an ares in the process 
Ferox is by far the BC king until we get rid of the dual oversized AB nonsense 
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2004.11.30 12:48:00 -
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^What TWD said^
It also helps not to click to warp to the wrong gate ultimately getting in dual-web range of the same Ferox pilot and losing an ares in the process
Ferox is by far the BC king until we get rid of the dual oversized AB nonsense
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.11.30 13:48:00 -
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I find in my ferrox fitting a dual 100mn AB setup does not in any way detract from your offensive capacity.
Out of interest, what else was on the ferox in question: 2 x AB, 1 x WD and...?
Low slots 2 cap relays and something for grid?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.11.30 13:48:00 -
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I find in my ferrox fitting a dual 100mn AB setup does not in any way detract from your offensive capacity.
Out of interest, what else was on the ferox in question: 2 x AB, 1 x WD and...?
Low slots 2 cap relays and something for grid?
Lall - THE Vocal Minority -
ShinRa
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