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driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.15 20:55:00 - [1] I would like to know if it is possible to use 2 characters at the same time using 1 client? Just wondering as I know many people use alts and I have even seen main and alt arguing with each other.
Ruziel Minmatar Twilight Military Industrial Complex	Posted - 2010.03.15 21:10:00 - [2] You can only use one character per account at a time, and only one account per client at a time. If a person has multiple characters on at a time, they are on seperate accounts running on multiple clients.
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.15 21:22:00 - [3] Ok, thanks for the answer. That's good to know.
Culmen Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.03.15 21:24:00 - [4] To clarify further 1 char per account 1 account per INSTANCE of client. IE you install once, and open eve twice. Though this causes some performance issues. Thus many have two installs of eve and further more why do i even need a sig?
Redshirt I	Posted - 2010.03.15 21:24:00 - [5] Arguing with my alts is common. in this cutthroat world of .01 undercutting I get argumentative when my alts undercut my orders We have only come to firing on eachothers ships once in the past couple of years. Luckily we can usually keep cooler heads.
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.03.15 21:54:00 - [6] What are Alts?
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.03.15 22:18:00 - [7] Originally by: SabotNoob What are Alts? Alt(ernate character)s
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.03.15 22:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Iamien Originally by: SabotNoob What are Alts? Alt(ernate character)s Ok, so I have another computer upstairs that I was thinking about installing EVE on as well. If I created a new account (maybe buddy inviting myself), could I use both of them at the same time? Maybe use the new account to assist the first account in mining? Or anything else for that matter? This would be great exercise, btw. Also, when starting up EVE, what are the two smaller portraits below my large portrait of my avatar? Do they have anything to do with Alts?
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.15 23:09:00 - [9] Edited by: driv4r on 15/03/2010 23:12:15 Wow, I'm just trying this out using 2 instances of 1 client as I have access to 2 characters of 2 accounts atm and actually it's working quite well except for the halved framerate, which I managed to get back up to just over 30 inside the station by changing the shader setting to low, and chat windows etc. keeping there sizes but I guess I can resize them - so far so good. I changed to windowed mode into 1024x768 resolution. My screen is still clearly too small (and low reso) to display both at the same time, so I need to switch them. To Noob: Yes, you can do it and those 2 empty windows under your character portrait are the locations for your alts' portraits, which you're not using. One more thing, would it be any better to run 2 separate clients instead?
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.03.16 09:13:00 - [10] Edited by: Zartrader on 16/03/2010 09:15:35 Originally by: driv4r Edited by: driv4r on 15/03/2010 23:12:15 ....One more thing, would it be any better to run 2 separate clients instead? Someone earlier said it was. Sabotnoob: The other windows are for two further characters you can create. This is handy but you cannot train more than one character at once and you cannot have two characters playing together on the same account. Therefore some people have two accounts.
Jose Black	Posted - 2010.03.16 09:25:00 - [11] Originally by: SabotNoob Also, when starting up EVE, what are the two smaller portraits below my large portrait of my avatar? Do they have anything to do with Alts? These would be Alts on the same account. You can only fly and train one of them at a time. Having multiple accounts you could train and fly one of the three for each account at the same time. For a fee you could have transferred Characters between accounts. Also you can't fly a trial and another account on the same Computer or IP.
Taross Caldari People with Guns Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.03.16 09:30:00 - [12] Edited by: Taross on 16/03/2010 09:31:00 Something to remember if you're new: You CAN have two accounts open through the same EVE Install. But there's some things you CAN'T do... - You CAN'T have two characters from the same account open at the same time. Logging in the second one will log out the first. - You CAN'T have two accounts open if both of them are free trial accounts. Not sure if this can be done with multiple Installs. I seem to remember you can't have two accounts open from the same install if only ONE of them is a trial account, but I'm not sure about that. Can anyone confirm or deny? Edit: Or, what Jose said. BTW, thanks for answering my question before I even posted it! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.16 09:52:00 - [13] Ok, if 2 clients would improve the performance over 2 instances of 1 then I consider downloading another one from Steam. I am currently using the original version but I can download one from Steam as well as I once added 30 days to my trial using it but have never actually downloaded the game.
Jose Black	Posted - 2010.03.16 10:02:00 - [14] Originally by: driv4r [..]I consider downloading another one from Steam. Just copying the EVE folder does the trick. No need to download another install file.
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.16 10:13:00 - [15] Ok, then I need to copy a folder of 5.3 GB I guess I give it a try later on.
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.16 19:04:00 - [16] I have been running 2 separate clients for a while now and can't see much difference to be honest. I'm taking some notes to compare with 2 instances of 1 at at later time though...
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.16 19:15:00 - [17] I run 3 accounts from one directory install. The only reason to use separate install directories is to have different global settings. For example: sound on one client but never the others.
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.16 19:47:00 - [18] Hmm, a couple of pilots above mentioned performance issues using 2 instances of 1 client
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.03.16 23:25:00 - [19] The performance issues come from running two graphics-intensive programs on the computer at the same time. EVE really taxes your graphics card - it uses several layers of texture & lighting effects on every polygon, with plenty of transparency and glowing light sources (eg: laser beams, turret flashes, ship exhausts). There can be reliability problems from running two instances of EVE from the same install folder, mainly due to different clients trying to update the cache at the same time. You can find instructions on how to run multiple clients without wasting too much disk space on the EVElopedia: Multiple Clients Note that under Mac OS X you can replace the folders in the EVE Online bundle's contents with symlinks to another installation - the only thing that really matters is the preferences folder name in the Info.plist file. [Aussie players: join channels ANZAC or AUSSIES]
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.17 20:57:00 - [20] Yea, I have tried the linking of 2 accounts last night and it doesn't seem to make difference performance wise but it defo saves a lot of HDD space (5.3 GB!), which is important to me as well.
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2010.03.18 05:33:00 - [21] A lot depends on your equipment. I've got multiple computers and multiple accounts. My newest computer will run a number of instances of EVE without to much trouble. My oldest computer will run one instance reliably but crashes after a while if I try and run two. I think that I tried using multiple installs here ... but I'm not sure ... The graphics card matters A LOT. I've got two other systems that are identical except for the graphics card. One of them has an All in Wonder card in it with a TV tuner. That card isn't as good as some of the other AiW cards I had ... which burned out ... The other system, having had it's graphics card burn out too - is now running a relatively new card and has much better performance than it's brethren. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
driv4r Gallente Trader's Academy MPA	Posted - 2010.03.18 11:30:00 - [22] I've just got my notebook here and I haven't managed to burn out any graphics cards yet, though I have been overclocking it quite a lot. Obviously it's not a good idea to burn one out in notebook, so I try not to do it in future either
Toshiro GreyHawk	Posted - 2010.03.18 12:01:00 - [23] There's a discussion of burning out graphics cards with EVE somewhere. The general consensus is that it's better to have your graphics setting for Interval set to One rather than the default of Immediate. I'm a little vague on the reasons but it had something to do with EVE sending more graphics information to your video card than your display could show anyway. Put your hand on the part of your laptop where the video connection is and see if it gets hotter while running EVE. My best system is a laptop and I have an external fan blowing across the keyboard area with the display opened up to cool it down. Laptops tending to run hot anyway. I use my system with an external monitor, keyboard and mouse - which gives me two monitors. Other considerations are room heat and such. Having multiple systems in one room with a south west facing window the sun shines right through causes me a lot of problems and I've to use a lot of air flow management to keep the room cool. I also get some external shade over those windows in the hotter parts of the year. Living in a warm climate I've had a lot of trouble with heat. I've also used, for various reasons, a lot of ATI video cards. Orbiting vs. Kiting Faction Schools
Tau Cabalander Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.18 18:50:00 - [24] Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 18/03/2010 18:55:03 Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk There's a discussion of burning out graphics cards with EVE somewhere. The general consensus is that it's better to have your graphics setting for Interval set to One rather than the default of Immediate. I'm a little vague on the reasons but it had something to do with EVE sending more graphics information to your video card than your display could show anyway. LCD monitors typically display at 59.94 Hz (60 Hz - 0.1%). At "Interval One", the graphics card renders one frame at a time = as much as your display can handle. For various reasons the frame rate will drop now and then (also when you add clients). At "Interval Immediate", the graphics card renders as many frames as possible (mine does about 300 FPS with a single client, 75 FPS with 3 clients). This allows some effects which require multiple frames to be performed and refined. As well, extra frames that are poorly timed can be discarded for less jitter on-screen.
Duncan MacPherson Minmatar Clan MacPherson	Posted - 2010.03.19 15:41:00 - [25] I run 3 accounts. Each account has its own install on a separate hard drive. Drives are so cheap now why not? Once I went 3 accounts I have not looked back. Love the game. Even makes mining fun and profitable. Mining = Hulk + Hulk + Orca Missions = Battleship (Typhoon, its fast and 5xT2 Heavy drones FTW) + Battleship (Raven, perma run XL = big tank) + Battlecruiser (running leadership skills maxed and is my salvaging machine) PVP = Battleship + Command Ship + EWAR ship WH = Battleship + Recon + Hulk (remote mobile base)

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