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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 16/03/2010 14:09:57 Hi some of you may remember me for offering short term low bonds about a year ago and now i am back with
Armoured Small Investment Corp [ARMSI] (not a wang joke )
Now with my college work has minimised quite a substantial amount I have decided to come back to eve! I was thinking that I still has some work to do so it put me out of the very active things like PVPing which i love and mining ect so i figured I would come back to the markets. Any questions just post and i will answer when i can.
To the bond mobile
Bond amount : 100,000,000 isk (100 million) investment places : 10 (1 per person) investment amount : 10,000,000 (10 million) percentage of return : 10%
There is a spreadsheet which i update every hour or so where possible so you can see where you investment is going located here on the second page called investment 16th march 2010. You can track items being brought and sold ( though the item identity will be concealed )
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tLGzqyVGUf0IJa_jnrQel5Q&gid=0
upon completion of market transactions each investor will gain there 10 million isk back plus there 10% which equates to 1 million isk. The maximum time the bond will be up is for 3 months (maximum market limit time) where by that time any un sold items will be sold at cost to get investment isk back and sell off assets to make up the difference. I hold a various amount of t2 ships and Battlecruisers which would be used in case margin of your original investment plus 10% isn't made up.
investors will be accepted by first come first serve basis in a list compiled by posting times from this forum. Once your position is confirmed via a post on this forum saying so you may send isk with in 24 hours to Armoured C or your position will be forfeited and offered to the next person in line on the forum. Confirmation of you isk received will render your name in the spreadsheet as green and not red.
For list of investors , up to date investment on going or prior or spaces left for investment please visit the excel page
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tLGzqyVGUf0IJa_jnrQel5Q&gid=0
any questions please reply to this thread
Armoured C Armoured Small Investment Corp [ARMSI]
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:09:00 -
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reserved
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:12:00 -
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Errrr ... forgive me if my MD history knowledge isn't up to scratch but didn't you pull off a scam a while back? It was before my time but I remember when I first started reading MD people were talking about the market having lost some confidence because of it.
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:16:00 -
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yes aproximiatly one year ago for a friend who was working on a uni paper on some social thing. Once my pay was complete from him all money that was scammed was returned to the rightful owners.
next question?
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Errrr ... forgive me if my MD history knowledge isn't up to scratch but didn't you pull off a scam a while back? It was before my time but I remember when I first started reading MD people were talking about the market having lost some confidence because of it.
Same here, pretty much verbatim.
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coeira
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:18:00 -
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one person on here could easy cover the amount your looking for, probably without even missing it from there wallet.
i'm just interested to about the amount at the length of the bond, because if your not looking to triple your money and return the investors money in a week. i'd be saying you need to find something else to make money on.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:27:00 -
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Here we go
I didn't bother reading much of it, but there it is for better or worse.
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: coeira one person on here could easy cover the amount your looking for, probably without even missing it from there wallet.
i'm just interested to about the amount at the length of the bond, because if your not looking to triple your money and return the investors money in a week. i'd be saying you need to find something else to make money on.
the bond will last as long as the bit and bobs on the market are still there
not looking to do anything serious just bored at college
something fun to do
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coeira
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:35:00 -
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yeah but seriously 3 months for 100 mil, even station trading at a lessor trade hub like hek you should be able to turn that around in a few days and double your money.
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:39:00 -
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up to a max of 3 months
if all the stuff sell with in 3 days the bond will be complete in 3 day if it sells with in a hour the bond will be complete in a hour
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C up to a max of 3 months
if all the stuff sell with in 3 days the bond will be complete in 3 day if it sells with in a hour the bond will be complete in a hour
and if it doesn't sell? or if it sells at a loss?
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Armoured C up to a max of 3 months
if all the stuff sell with in 3 days the bond will be complete in 3 day if it sells with in a hour the bond will be complete in a hour
and if it doesn't sell? or if it sells at a loss?
if you read the brief i have multiple t2 ship and battlecruisers to sell all will be sold and liquidated to make up for investment and your 10% extra.
at least read the brief >_>
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C if you read the brief i have multiple t2 ship and battlecruisers to sell all will be sold and liquidated to make up for investment and your 10% extra.
at least read the brief >_>
I read that part; I asked the questions anyway to draw attention to the fact that you have assets which you are willing to sell. Sell them now and do your market thing with your own isk.
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Armoured C
Gallente Armoured Small Investment Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 14:51:00 -
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if you look at the link that is posted you can see all my market activities
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.03.16 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C yes aproximiatly one year ago for a friend who was working on a uni paper on some social thing. Once my pay was complete from him all money that was scammed was returned to the rightful owners.
next question?
Bending the truth here mate, ill leave it to you to correct the mistakes you made in this statement.
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Snibeecha
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Posted - 2010.03.16 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Snibeecha on 16/03/2010 15:31:56 A public loan is excessive for 100M. There are so many, many ways to raise 100M that involve much less trouble than running a bond that many people will automatically (and somewhat righteously) assume there's something fishy going on. Especially with your cited assets raising the cash should be a matter of days at most, if not hours.
Ofcourse there is the possibility that you LIKE the hassle of running a bond, or want practice managing public funds or whatnot.. but those claims often precede a scam.
If you absolutely MUST take out a loan for 100M you are better off finding someone to give you a private loan for the full amount. There are many players (most, actually) that have a lot more then 100M isk sitting around.
If you can't find them in your corporation, alliance, or otherwise neighborhood, you can ask forum people. Jumping straight to a public (assuming that's what you've done) offering is overkill and will make you appear lazy and ill-prepared.
To end on a positive note, the spreadsheet thing is a nice touch. 'product xxx' will get confusing very fast. Better to use incremental numbers of letters I think :)
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coeira
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Posted - 2010.03.16 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C up to a max of 3 months
if all the stuff sell with in 3 days the bond will be complete in 3 day if it sells with in a hour the bond will be complete in a hour
yeah but my issue is this according to your spread sheet if those are the numbers your working with for your trading you stand to make about 4-5 million profit, which is a studiedly small amount for the effort of updating a spread sheet hourly as you said, you might as well go mine some veld for an hour,
so you have to wonder for somebody to go to all that effort for so little return whats there motivation.
now I only think given your history with scamming that this is a fake bond set up to build trust for a future scam. you take 100 mil update your spread sheet a few times in the next few days then pay out with 10 mil extra. next week you come back with a higher offering until you get a enough to make it worth running off with.
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cosmoray
Bella Vista Holdings Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.16 18:51:00 -
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One year ago, seems shorter.
1. You came to MD for a bit 2. You ran a 600M or so bond 3. Scammed 4. People laughed at you 5. You sort of paid people back
At the time people were throwing money at everything without questions or audit. Your mistake was to shoot low, you could have run off with a few bill at least.
Do you really think people will invest in a bond from someone who scammed the exact type of bond previously??
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Snibeecha
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Posted - 2010.03.17 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: cosmoray One year ago, seems shorter.
You've been warping around too much. Time's a *****
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Lecherito
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Posted - 2010.03.17 08:52:00 -
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Someone more sober than myself should post the link. Essentially, this douche**** pulled an *epic* scam for 500 million and then, due to being lol'd off the boards, came up with this bull**** excuse of how he was doing it for his friend's university paper. One of the biggest tools in Eve. EBank is a better investment than this salope.
-L
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.17 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lecherito Someone more sober than myself should post the link. Essentially, this douche**** pulled an *epic* scam for 500 million and then, due to being lol'd off the boards, came up with this bull**** excuse of how he was doing it for his friend's university paper. One of the biggest tools in Eve. EBank is a better investment than this salope.
-L
Originally by: SetrakDark Here we go
I didn't bother reading much of it, but there it is for better or worse.
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Ji Sama
Caldari Tash-Murkon Prime Industries United Corporations Of Modern Eve
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Posted - 2010.03.17 10:08:00 -
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was a fun walk down memory lane :)
btw, you can quote RC for saying that he would never make a public offering again!
But i wont tell anyone where to find it.... ;) (egap evif)
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Dzil
Caldari SafeHouse Investments of Tautology
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Posted - 2010.03.17 12:37:00 -
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Quote: Hi some of you may remember me for offering short term low bonds about a year ago and now i am back with
Sorry, I think Z'xera broke your record for most pathetic scam in EVE history. You're not famous anymore.
I think I gave away more isk on a haiku thread than this bond represents. Nonetheless, I don't think anyone's interested.
Go back to PVPing.
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