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Destriouth Hollow
Star-Destroying-Warlords
Destiny's Call
5
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Posted - 2012.09.24 23:57:00 -
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This happens about every 5. time you do it (: |
Ajit Kumar Bhattacharya
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
1266
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:00:00 -
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So far I've won 4 ships in 2 days, depo'd 60 million more or less. It's a fun diversion. Just use some common sense and don't gamble more than you are comfortable about losing. It's not a way to reliably make money (unless you're the house) -- it's a game of chance. If you don't like to gamble, simply don't patronize the establishment. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
563
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Posted - 2012.09.25 17:48:00 -
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You should watch the movie "Revolver" with Jason Statham. It explains the how and why of the con. They give you the formula to the scam, SB follows the model to a T.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled **** poast. |
Acuchai
Abyss Heavy Industries
ZZ-Industries
2
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:01:00 -
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I think its is fairly obvious to anyone with a basic understanding of computing that that website could scam if they wanted to without anyone readily noticing. With real security there would have to be a third party trust entitity that could be used to verify the integrity of the results (for instance an ID at random.org with an authenticated link to a specific draw).
Given that, all that posting about "secure" code snippets is just BS, at the end of the day people need to trust you that you actually implemented it the way you said you implemented it.
The question for data is however interesting, because by analyzing the data independently you COULD find statistical anomalies that shouldn't be there given your fairly simple model of draws (if you were not carefull with your "manipulated" data entries). If that analysis proves a "statistical significant" deviation of what should be there, it would be essentially a proof of a scam. Not finding a deviation would not mean you had not scammed though, because you control all the data entries and the entities linked to those data entries cannot be verified.
My question however would be: Is it worth it to scam? Given that you make plenty of money with a legit model (20-30% of each draw) i do not see any compelling reason why scamming would be worth while. You could be that greedy i suppose, but the risk of detection would have to be weighted against a secure long term income, given that most eve players apparently are addicted and are not able to perform simple math :) |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
667
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Posted - 2012.09.25 18:37:00 -
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UNICR0N wrote:Ariel Armani wrote:Hello, I heard about this 250 celebration or whatever that Somer Blink is having, so I was interested. I have some extra ISK for "fun". Anyway, I was asking around, and somebody sent me this link - http://blinkexposed.blogspot.com/That got me worried, so I asked about it in the Blink thread. Some dude Andrew Nox (with Blink I guess) told me to just "ask other Blink players about their experiences". So that's what I am doing. Anybody want to share their experiences, good or bad? Thanks!  In my experience I have won a lot and lost a lot like many other but I would't call it a scam it's there way of also making isk they can't just hand it out like crazy like it's going and from what I know my friend sold his character somer bought it and he see's his alt in somer all the time it's a "bot" none the less but the corp has to make it's circular income some how I suppose even when you buy out something have a 80% chance to win and you still somehow lose....
Well, an 80% chance of winning is also known as a 20% chance of losing.
FuzzWork Enterprises
http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator, invention chance calculator, isk/m3 Ore chart-á and other 'useful' utilities. |
Hunter Naari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.10.31 08:57:00 -
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I started with just over 3 bil deposited in my blink account. Now my EVE account is positive 22 bil all within 24 hours. Blink has my vote  |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
159
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:18:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:
gambling is a tax on people who are bad at math.
Wrong, gambling is an income stream for those who are good at Maths.
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hy wanto destroyer
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:56:00 -
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As it has been said before , somer blink is a love hate relationship -you win some you lose some , people who have losing streaks are normally the ones who claim its a scam well thats not true, ive won 46 bill worth of stuff and for promos you dont win one every ten promos you do unless your extremely lucky ive played 162 and won 1 |
Akaisha Mas'tere
Pilots of Dubious Sanity Social Club
Swollen Starfish Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.11.14 11:14:00 -
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Would say there is no scam here , you are offered a chance to win something for cheap , you get a chance to win something for cheap , personally i have fun along the way with my iskies win or lose
I tend to buy one ticket per blink , sometimes i lose a few bill sometimes i win a few more than i lose .... all to blind luck which is how i always thought a lottery should work
I know damn well though i wish somer ran our national lottery ..... id have me an aston martin by now
anyway i digress a little , my main point is if you had fun spending your isk win or lose does it matter ? and furthermore if you aint having fun then you probably shouldnt be gambling in the first place .... house always wins we all know this ..... shouldnt get too butthurt to find out the house is making its isk
To the guys at blink ...... feel free to drop me a nightmare bhalgorn mach and vindi whenever you choose .... will just be our lil secret noone else needs to know ..... even a few wolves ??? ..... no ? ..... oh well worth a try 
Great service blink ..... even if you tend to keep me skint and in withdrawal you got my vote |
Pootis Man
Viziam
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.14 14:24:00 -
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If they have been around for so long, it's obvious it's not a scam. |
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Telegram Sam
Shoot 2 Thrill
451
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Posted - 2012.11.14 17:15:00 -
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Confirming that Somer Blink are more than decent guys. I asked them for an isk donation, trying to raise a total of about 3 bil for an EVE fiction contest. Once they had determined that I wasn't just a crude scammer, they upped the ante and voluntarily gave me 10 bil. I'd say that's about as opposite of being a scam as you can get. o7 Somer!
Edit: I'm tempted to throw in plugs for everybody who donated big prizes for the writers, but... I'll save that for a more appropriate thread someday. You can see them here if you're interested. |
Dr No Game
Android Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:06:00 -
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I have no opinion one way or another, I just feel the need to point one thing out. Everyone is saying "with the amount of ISK SB makes it would be crazy to jeopardize it all by scamming."
Unless of course it was a scam from the start. In that case, all the ISK he makes is because of the scam.
What happened to all the other legitimate, profitable gambling schemes on Eve?
My apologies if this was already brought up, I skipped from page 8 to 18 :P |
Sunglasses At Midnight
Concordiat
Tribal Band
3
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Posted - 2012.11.15 01:43:00 -
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Here's some fun facts:
Somer Blink never says that it doesn't make a profit. It says it provides lottery services, and the picture of statistics the anti- Blink website posted claiming that it was taken down is still available, albeit updated to recent numbers, here.
Somer Blink's website is professionally built and maintained. The Anti- Blink's website is run on Blogspot.com, a free site for hosting blogs with no content limitations, aside from those asked for all Google Inc. services. The blogger can post anything they want.
Not once on the blogging website is an actual scam mentioned. Somer Blink does everything it says it does, nothing more, nothing less. It's all sensationalized repetition of the same core fact, that Somer Blink is a business that, at the end of a day, will make a profit, and that they make the most profit compared to the players- this is not a bad thing, or a good thing. It is absolute.
It's the choice of EVE players to do as they want with their money. The Anti- Blink website maintains that taking currency out of the game is a bad thing, but the fact is, Blink isn't forcing anyone to use their services. EVE isn't quite like the real world: asteroids literally come out of empty space, as do NPC's to farm. Some money goes out of the game when a ship is destroyed, or something is trashed (trashing things really doesn't occur on a scale large enough to have a great effect), or through NPC run "taxes". This is another way ISK goes out of the game- and I don't mean to cause a huge economics debate, I really don't. I'm just pointing out that there needs to be a balance in the way ISK flows through the game, and the fact that it literally spawns in space means that a service like this that removes ISK from the game isn't really that big a deal. The players are making the same ISK that's being spent, so every time you mine an asteroid, every time you kill an NPC, every time you finish a mission, you're adding ISK from nothing into the game.
Hell, on a big enough scale, everything's relative. The 5000 ISK gift every player receives amounts to about 3 billion ISK with all these accounts. |
Vostrez
Arkhon Industries
Mineral Excavations and Combat Innovations
0
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Posted - 2012.11.15 02:56:00 -
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Dammit. I saw this thread thinking "What's this?" decided to check it out.. Lost my complete 55mil |
Dr No Game
Android Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.15 11:58:00 -
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Vostrez wrote:Dammit. I saw this thread thinking "What's this?" decided to check it out.. Lost my complete 55mil
This is where I would normally say "don't spend/fly what you cannot afford to lose." |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
932
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Posted - 2012.11.15 12:01:00 -
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Thread #684691513.153.65163 V10.5 about Somer Blink
Highlights:
-Somer Blink
-Scam
-Words
You're welcome.
brb |
Zhao-luojao Shou
Industrial Dragon Tycoons
0
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Posted - 2012.11.15 12:10:00 -
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I have Blinked for a long time. the other night i won 5 plex's with just 2 tickets each, a ton of small stuff and sniped (but the last ticket) a moros. its just a matter of buying the right ticket at the right time. i have gotten all my prizes within 2 hours. the only part of blink that is a scam is the contracts that ppl not asociated with SomerBlink will send you. |
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