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Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.16 23:27:00 - [1] Give your ISK but the maven is not under the warranty of the game. So watch out. And if you say something like that in their channel ,you get banned .
Josh Vermanek Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.03.16 23:41:00 - [2] Ive been using their program for awhile now, and i've never had a problem.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.17 01:08:00 - [3] Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 17/03/2010 01:08:42 Hi, I am a senior banker at EOH. I would just like to state that Mavens 2.0 software is secure and used by official poker tournaments all over the globe. We had to purchase a license to use this software. When you play all hands are encrypted and there is no way to read other player's hands or cards. Once you sit down at a table to play poker with us, you have already give the appropriate people your ISK. The Mavens client itself does not directly handle your ISK. We store your ISK in a deposit account and when you cash out we have the money set aside for you already. When you play a tournament game, one of our respected and thoroughly background checked bankers hold your money. Upon winning the tournament you receive your payout. In the event that does not happen smoothly we will secure your buy-in up to a certain amount (most standard buy-ins are covered, however larger buy-ins are at your own risk and refunded at the discretion of our manager. Senior bankers must make a 5 bil collateral deposit before they are allowed to bank high-stakes games. If they steal money they lose their collateral. It is difficult for that to be a wise idea.) Hope that helps! Siigari EOH Senior Banker www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Gnisis Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.03.17 01:11:00 - [4] Want to elaborate on why you made this thread? Im guessing you lagged out of an all-in game and therefor automatically forfeited? I've been using, and enjoying, the EoH Poker services for quite some time now, and can't think of anything bad to say (aside from being way too addictive that is)
Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.17 08:11:00 - [5] This is my opinion on a succession of little anomalies and the last one who decided me to take action. And get banned from the eoh channel with all my chars so I had to say it somewhere. Please make sign all your bankers that the game is secure. Petition is sended. Give me reference of the other site using it . I don't need a probe to scan down the anomalie on your game.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.17 08:20:00 - [6] You still haven't made it clear what your issue is. I sure hope you didn't just petition CCP over an issue with EOH poker. ~ Soar Like a Penguin
Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2010.03.17 09:27:00 - [7] Originally by: Zecyno This is my opinion on a succession of little anomalies and the last one who decided me to take action. And get banned from the eoh channel with all my chars so I had to say it somewhere. Please make sign all your bankers that the game is secure. Petition is sended. Give me reference of the other site using it . I don't need a probe to scan down the anomalie on your game. it isn't their game its software created developed and maintained by a 3rd party company, what i'm thinking happened is that this guy found the joys of a random number generator which made it seem like someone was winning an oddly high number of times, its happened to me i've been on both sides of that but its random just like real poker so there are no "anomolies" its all random, thats about all i can guess from his posts they aren't easy to read. Rally Against Evil Site
Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.17 10:32:00 - [8] Originally by: Gladys Pank You still haven't made it clear what your issue is. I sure hope you didn't just petition CCP over an issue with EOH poker. Isk is concerned which linked me to CCP. And I liked the similitude of the answear of the gamemaster of EOH "nothing wrong on the server side". Pausing the game while we can sort out what is the problem ?5 mn Telling me that my pc is on fault ,I have several computer at home ,netbook had same problem but still their game don't have any. Get ****ed isn't admited. Loosing while a player ,who told me that he had the same issue ,win without playing ? And the problem happened when I was about take the chips of the said guy with a 4x J on my side . I still think CCP can be involved .
Ba'Rumph The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2010.03.17 10:37:00 - [9] Originally by: Zecyno Originally by: Gladys Pank You still haven't made it clear what your issue is. I sure hope you didn't just petition CCP over an issue with EOH poker. Isk is concerned which linked me to CCP. And I liked the similitude of the answear of the gamemaster of EOH "nothing wrong on the server side". Pausing the game while we can sort out what is the problem ?5 mn Telling me that my pc is on fault ,I have several computer at home ,netbook had same problem but still their game don't have any. Get ****ed isn't admited. Loosing while a player ,who told me that he had the same issue ,win without playing ? And the problem happened when I was about take the chips of the said guy with a 4x J on my side . I still think CCP can be involved . Never thought I'd say this, but I think this might help: Babelfish
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.03.17 10:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Zecyno I still think CCP can be involved . Wrong! Even if the Poker was a scam it is nothing to do with CCP. You have just wasted CCP's time with the petition, and our time with this **ty thread. Kirra Liu /Lord Windu**

Turiel Demon Minmatar Celtic industries F A I L	Posted - 2010.03.17 10:45:00 - [11] Lol, CCP is in no way involved, and will not involve themselves: This is something you choose to do with your ISK and either there is a problem with EOH in which case they scammed you or (vastly more likely) there's no problem and you're just under the illusion that you got scammed. Either way, what do CCP have to do with it? Also, you're hardly making any sense with your posts and 'ccp involvement' was pretty much the only semi-coherent part of your ramblings I could decypher. If you can't beat Eris, join her, hmmm that sounded so much better in my head - Cortes Don't be greedy :P -Cap
Sir Morgan Temporal War	Posted - 2010.03.17 12:21:00 - [12] I will just follow the example of the op and add random words to the topic: ISK, Maven, EOH, rabble, banned !
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.17 12:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Zecyno Originally by: Gladys Pank And the problem happened when I was about take the chips of the said guy with a 4x J on my side . I still think CCP can be involved . a. No such thing as a sure hand b. CCP aren't going to be pleased that you abused their petition system for something that is nothing to do with them. c. ... ~ Soar Like a Penguin
OwlManAtt Gallente Dreddit	Posted - 2010.03.17 12:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Zecyno Petition is sended. I sincerely hope your account gets a warning because you like wasting GM time. Repeat after me: Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. --- Owl
Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.17 13:59:00 - [15] Originally by: OwlManAtt Originally by: Zecyno Petition is sended. I sincerely hope your account gets a warning because you like wasting GM time. Repeat after me: Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. So you are saying that there 's a SCAM ,it's your point of view. I say anomalie in a game which is linked to eve/CCP . I sincerely hope I will get a warning to ,so at least I will have the satisfaction that someone in charge had read this . And thanks for Babelfish info ,I think you must know that a lot of eve players are not ENGLISH. So if a moderator can lock this post...
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Zecyno Originally by: OwlManAtt Originally by: Zecyno Petition is sended. I sincerely hope your account gets a warning because you like wasting GM time. Repeat after me: Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. So you are saying that there 's a SCAM ,it's your point of view. I say anomalie in a game which is linked to eve/CCP . I sincerely hope I will get a warning to ,so at least I will have the satisfaction that someone in charge had read this . And thanks for Babelfish info ,I think you must know that a lot of eve players are not ENGLISH. So if a moderator can lock this post... You don't get it do you. CCP could not give a damn about your isk, you chose to play a game run by other players, the poker has nothing to do with CCP and it is your own choice if you play or not. Now, by paying isk to play the poker games you are taking a risk just like every other activity within Eve. Why should CCP hold your hand and save you from your own apparent poor decisions. Eve is not the game for you, may I suggest you check out Hello Kitty Online. Kirra Liu /Lord Windu
Spii't Gelekk	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Zecyno This is my opinion on a succession of little anomalies and the last one who decided me to take action. And get banned from the eoh channel with all my chars so I had to say it somewhere. Please make sign all your bankers that the game is secure. Petition is sended. Give me reference of the other site using it . I don't need a probe to scan down the anomalie on your game. Very very sad Zecyno, so. you lagged out a game and couldnt connect anymore? The bankers even paused the game for you for like 5 minutes. Another guy who had the same problem could in fact log in. Did you try another browser or whatever? Who even says it was a Mavens problem? And the fact you were banned was because you were making threats and being a douche. You would get banned for that here also and had nothing to do with the problems you were experiencing. Btw i'm not affiliated with EOH, just a guy who observed this yesterday.
Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Kirra Liu Originally by: Zecyno Originally by: OwlManAtt Originally by: Zecyno Petition is sended. I sincerely hope your account gets a warning because you like wasting GM time. Repeat after me: Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. Scams are NOT petitionable. So you are saying that there 's a SCAM ,it's your point of view. I say anomalie in a game which is linked to eve/CCP . I sincerely hope I will get a warning to ,so at least I will have the satisfaction that someone in charge had read this . And thanks for Babelfish info ,I think you must know that a lot of eve players are not ENGLISH. So if a moderator can lock this post... You don't get it do you. CCP could not give a damn about your isk, you chose to play a game run by other players, the poker has nothing to do with CCP and it is your own choice if you play or not. Now, by paying isk to play the poker games you are taking a risk just like every other activity within Eve. Why should CCP hold your hand and save you from your own apparent poor decisions. Eve is not the game for you, may I suggest you check out Hello Kitty Online. Did I asked for reimbursment ? Did I asked you something about EVE in this general discussion thread ? Do you think that you are smart ? I give my opinion pleased to you or not: "Do not give ISK to EOH ,no warranty on the game mecanics and bad comment not admitted." So return to play the game you know much and I don't give a cent from now to any of your post Miss(Mister)Kirra .
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:38:00 - [19] Originally by: Zecyno Did I asked for reimbursment ? Did I asked you something about EVE in this general discussion thread ? Do you think that you are smart ? I give my opinion pleased to you or not: "Do not give ISK to EOH ,no warranty on the game mecanics and bad comment not admitted." So return to play the game you know much and I don't give a cent from now to any of your post Miss(Mister)Kirra .
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:44:00 - [20] Posting in a "I don't know how to play poker OR how to read EULAs" thread.. Just keep on trollin, its your only way out now. New bounty system. Always, I want to be with you, and make believe with you, and live in harmony harmony oh love!

Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:46:00 - [21] Originally by: Zecyno Did I asked for reimbursment ? Why else did you petition it? Quote: Did I asked you something about EVE in this general discussion thread ? Yes. By posting it in GD. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
trenny jr Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.17 14:47:00 - [22] Originally by: Zecyno Give your ISK but the maven is not under the warranty of the game. So watch out. And if you say something like that in their channel ,you get banned . holy **** if you accuse someone of scamming when they aren't the take it badly WHO KNEW!!!! [00:18:49] Lady Spank > /emote squiggles
Zecyno	Posted - 2010.03.17 15:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Spii't Gelekk Originally by: Zecyno This is my opinion on a succession of little anomalies and the last one who decided me to take action. And get banned from the eoh channel with all my chars so I had to say it somewhere. Please make sign all your bankers that the game is secure. Petition is sended. Give me reference of the other site using it . I don't need a probe to scan down the anomalie on your game. Very very sad Zecyno, so. you lagged out a game and couldnt connect anymore? The bankers even paused the game for you for like 5 minutes. Another guy who had the same problem could in fact log in. Did you try another browser or whatever? Who even says it was a Mavens problem? And the fact you were banned was because you were making threats and being a douche. You would get banned for that here also and had nothing to do with the problems you were experiencing. Btw i'm not affiliated with EOH, just a guy who observed this yesterday. And no I didn't lagged out,wasn't able to log in after an anomalie ,even with a second computer.I should have tried my 3g connected laptop to check it this way too but meh it was a game for me. Waitting to be banned for giving my opinion . Ty for your comment the non affiliated guy.
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Zecyno Do you think that you are smart ? Miss(Mister)Kirra . Yes, and it's Miss only on weekends when I like to dress up. Kirra Liu /Lord Windu
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Zecyno Waitting to be banned for giving my opinion . Banned? Oh you won't be banned. Flamed and charbroiled perhaps because you sound like a blockhead. Or imbecile, try that in babelfish also. Oh and stop blaming it on not knowing the english language. That's is not your problem. You are simply a fool who cannot understand basic concepts like the difference between EVE-Online that is officially made and released by CCP and a 3rd party web site that is run by players and never claims to have anything to do with CCP. Good luck throwing a tantrum like a little baby over spilled milk. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Dillon Arklight Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.17 20:40:00 - [26] I've been playing EOH for a few months now and never had a problem. Co-host of PODDED Podcast http://podded.libsyn.com/
Indialantic Pantorica	Posted - 2010.03.17 21:35:00 - [27] I love EOH cuz its so easy to cheat Simple collusion in online poker is relatively easy and much more difficult to immediately spot if executed well. Cheaters can engage in telephone calls or instant messaging, discussing their cards, since nobody can see them. Sometimes one person may be using two or more computers to play multiple hands at the same table under different aliases (since many broadband plans offer customers multiple IP addresses, this can conveniently and cheaply be done without the likelihood of immediate detection). Such tactics can give cheaters an advantage that is difficult to work against. EOH makes it even easier :)
Spii't Gelekk	Posted - 2010.03.17 22:13:00 - [28] Originally by: Indialantic Pantorica I love EOH cuz its so easy to cheat Simple collusion in online poker is relatively easy and much more difficult to immediately spot if executed well. Cheaters can engage in telephone calls or instant messaging, discussing their cards, since nobody can see them. Sometimes one person may be using two or more computers to play multiple hands at the same table under different aliases (since many broadband plans offer customers multiple IP addresses, this can conveniently and cheaply be done without the likelihood of immediate detection). Such tactics can give cheaters an advantage that is difficult to work against. EOH makes it even easier :) This is even more pathetic. FYI most players know each other and win and lose regularly from each other. Especially in the high-stake games. All just like to play poker and dont necessarily do it for the isk as most have billions anyway. So i would say, impossible on high-stake games, you'd be detected on your first try. to OP what exactly is your issue dude. So you're NOT mad for lagging out but raging about EOH in general?
Joe Censored Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.17 23:06:00 - [29] lol, there is nothing wrong with Mavens. It is a very surprisingly well run operation, especially considering it is player driven. If you couldn't connect after you put your isk on the line (either through technical or mentally challenged reasons) that isn't CCP's or EOH's problem. And warning people Maven's isn't covered under CCP's "Warranty" is like warning people that the Japanese government isn't going to cover my Toyota's accelerator problems, and even more obvious.
Magdaline Imperial Academy	Posted - 2010.03.18 07:44:00 - [30] Originally by: Indialantic Pantorica I love EOH cuz its so easy to cheat Simple collusion in online poker is relatively easy and much more difficult to immediately spot if executed well. Cheaters can engage in telephone calls or instant messaging, discussing their cards, since nobody can see them. Sometimes one person may be using two or more computers to play multiple hands at the same table under different aliases (since many broadband plans offer customers multiple IP addresses, this can conveniently and cheaply be done without the likelihood of immediate detection). Such tactics can give cheaters an advantage that is difficult to work against. EOH makes it even easier :) I can't speak for high stakes games, but this is why I stopped playing at EOH. After playing a few weeks picking out 2 different pairs of players working together (or the same person, who knows) wasn't too hard. It's fine, I can respect a decent scam, but it doesn't mean I'm going to allow myself to be ripped off.

DrJ Zoidberg SniggWaffe	Posted - 2010.03.18 09:08:00 - [31] Collusion is the bane of all online poker sites, It is the most common, and easiest to implement form of cheating. While we do take measures to prevent multiple logins from the same person, such as IP filters, there's always going to be a way around it. We can't prevent collusion, but we do take any reports of collusion seriously. The only thing we can do is investigate each matter case by case. I've been playing and banking at EOH for over 10 months, and I've never had any more issues playing poker at EOH than I have on any major poker site. Collusion does give players an advantage, but it's only as useful as their poker skills. Anyway, if you're playing online poker you should understand the risks involved, including disconnects and potential collusion, It's a risk like everything else, but EOH is by far the safest and most successful EVE Poker service. We didn't get to where we are by scamming customers or treating them unfairly. If you have an issue, please take it up with someone in private. As you can see, posting a call-out thread in general discussion isn't going to help your cause. DrJ Zoidberg EOH Poker Senior Banker
Aera Aiana	Posted - 2010.03.18 09:38:00 - [32] Can somebody please explain to me this guy's problem? I seriously don't get it. Anomaly? Not disconnected but couldn't connect? WTH?
thatbloke Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.18 13:57:00 - [33] I used to play EOH poker, I think he might be referring to the fact that way too many times you get screwed over on the turn/river when you have a way better hand than your opponents - I'm talking hands where your opponent has 1 or 2 cards in the deck left to save them, and CONSISTENTLY they hit those cards, causing you to lose your ISK when to be quite frank you shouldn't have. Now you could call it luck, but having this happen to me 6 out of 6 times (all in against someone, only 2 cards in the deck that can save the opponent, EVERY TIME he hits it) in the space of an hour is some bloody bad luck. Additionally I watched, 2 hands in a row, as the same guy got 4 of a kind popped by 2 other people both getting straight flushes - he lost about 1bil on those hands and was understandably **ed off. While I'm not debating the fact that it can happen, the probability of such a thing is so low that it should never happen twice in a row**. I haven't used EOH since.
Sidrat Flush Caldari Life is Experience	Posted - 2010.03.18 14:46:00 - [34] The biggest difference between online and face to face poker is the sheer number of hands you see during the same time frame, while you usually won't see half as many bad beats while playing face to face games the fact that you can play two or three times as many hands during the online poker games means that a lot less time has passed between hands so it just seems more often than usual I've played EOH poker before and it's fun for what it is. Play the game, but remember the Poker Mistress can spank as well as hand out kisses.
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.18 17:33:00 - [35] Originally by: thatbloke I used to play EOH poker, I think he might be referring to the fact that way too many times you get screwed over on the turn/river when you have a way better hand than your opponents - I'm talking hands where your opponent has 1 or 2 cards in the deck left to save them, and CONSISTENTLY they hit those cards, causing you to lose your ISK when to be quite frank you shouldn't have. Now you could call it luck, but having this happen to me 6 out of 6 times (all in against someone, only 2 cards in the deck that can save the opponent, EVERY TIME he hits it) in the space of an hour is some bloody bad luck. Additionally I watched, 2 hands in a row, as the same guy got 4 of a kind popped by 2 other people both getting straight flushes - he lost about 1bil on those hands and was understandably **ed off. While I'm not debating the fact that it can happen, the probability of such a thing is so low that it should never happen twice in a row**. I haven't used EOH since. Anecdotal evidence isn't good evidence. What I've found is that there is always some important detail missing in these stories that would totally change the picture - ie it wasn't actually 6 times in an hour (prob more like 3 times in a week), or there were alot more than 2 cards that could save him etc. This is typical frustration that comes up when you lose a hand that you "should" have won, and can thus be easily ignored. A corp member of mine suspected that there was something fishy going on with EOH (well, beyond us trying out the collusion thing, but we weren't really good enough to pull it off) because of hands like you described. The two simple explanations: 1) you see alot more hands on any online site, thus you're going to see alot more bad beats as well 2) it's for pretend money, thus people are going to try to chase crap draws alot more, and thus you're going to see more suckouts b/c there's more opportunity for them. As well, there's alot more crappy players who think it's a good idea to chase a 2 runner for a straight flush - occasionally they're going to suckout. Confirmation bias on your part makes you only remember when they win, but forget that they had to dip into the bank 18 times for 500mil to win that miracle 20mil pot... In short, why would the people of EOH run a scam with the cards when they stand to make alot more from the rake than they could get ripping a few people off. It's not conclusive evidence, but it is a good sign that EOH has been around for a while - if they were fiddling with the cards, it would be very easy to see and they would have shut down a while ago.
Rocktown	Posted - 2010.03.18 20:49:00 - [36] Originally by: Amanda Mor Originally by: thatbloke I used to play EOH poker, I think he might be referring to the fact that way too many times you get screwed over on the turn/river when you have a way better hand than your opponents - I'm talking hands where your opponent has 1 or 2 cards in the deck left to save them, and CONSISTENTLY they hit those cards, causing you to lose your ISK when to be quite frank you shouldn't have. Now you could call it luck, but having this happen to me 6 out of 6 times (all in against someone, only 2 cards in the deck that can save the opponent, EVERY TIME he hits it) in the space of an hour is some bloody bad luck. Additionally I watched, 2 hands in a row, as the same guy got 4 of a kind popped by 2 other people both getting straight flushes - he lost about 1bil on those hands and was understandably **ed off. While I'm not debating the fact that it can happen, the probability of such a thing is so low that it should never happen twice in a row**. I haven't used EOH since. Anecdotal evidence isn't good evidence. What I've found is that there is always some important detail missing in these stories that would totally change the picture - ie it wasn't actually 6 times in an hour (prob more like 3 times in a week), or there were alot more than 2 cards that could save him etc. This is typical frustration that comes up when you lose a hand that you "should" have won, and can thus be easily ignored. A corp member of mine suspected that there was something fishy going on with EOH (well, beyond us trying out the collusion thing, but we weren't really good enough to pull it off) because of hands like you described. The two simple explanations: 1) you see alot more hands on any online site, thus you're going to see alot more bad beats as well 2) it's for pretend money, thus people are going to try to chase crap draws alot more, and thus you're going to see more suckouts b/c there's more opportunity for them. As well, there's alot more crappy players who think it's a good idea to chase a 2 runner for a straight flush - occasionally they're going to suckout. Confirmation bias on your part makes you only remember when they win, but forget that they had to dip into the bank 18 times for 500mil to win that miracle 20mil pot... In short, why would the people of EOH run a scam with the cards when they stand to make alot more from the rake than they could get ripping a few people off. It's not conclusive evidence, but it is a good sign that EOH has been around for a while - if they were fiddling with the cards, it would be very easy to see and they would have shut down a while ago. no
Zex Maxwell Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.19 01:15:00 - [37] I lost over 100M once. do you see my B****en about it? no. ITS PART OF THE GAME!
Amanda Mor Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.19 07:36:00 - [38] Originally by: Rocktown Originally by: Amanda Mor Anecdotal evidence isn't good evidence. What I've found is that there is always some important detail missing in these stories that would totally change the picture - ie it wasn't actually 6 times in an hour (prob more like 3 times in a week), or there were alot more than 2 cards that could save him etc. This is typical frustration that comes up when you lose a hand that you "should" have won, and can thus be easily ignored. A corp member of mine suspected that there was something fishy going on with EOH (well, beyond us trying out the collusion thing, but we weren't really good enough to pull it off) because of hands like you described. The two simple explanations: 1) you see alot more hands on any online site, thus you're going to see alot more bad beats as well 2) it's for pretend money, thus people are going to try to chase crap draws alot more, and thus you're going to see more suckouts b/c there's more opportunity for them. As well, there's alot more crappy players who think it's a good idea to chase a 2 runner for a straight flush - occasionally they're going to suckout. Confirmation bias on your part makes you only remember when they win, but forget that they had to dip into the bank 18 times for 500mil to win that miracle 20mil pot... In short, why would the people of EOH run a scam with the cards when they stand to make alot more from the rake than they could get ripping a few people off. It's not conclusive evidence, but it is a good sign that EOH has been around for a while - if they were fiddling with the cards, it would be very easy to see and they would have shut down a while ago. no Yes.
thatbloke Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.19 12:14:00 - [39] Everything I said above was true, and all happened in a single night. I have seen with my own eyes the EOH bankers admit that the Mavens software does not always seem to be 100% random and does indeed seem to favour the hands that should only very rarely win. I'm not trying to bust the integrity of EOH poker as a whole here, as I've never had a single issue with my ISK in relation to payouts and the like, or scams, but I am suspect of the poker software that is used due to the term "you have just been Mavenned" being coined by a number of people (bankers included) to indicate that you lost a hand becuase the software decided it would favour the guy with the lowest odds of winning, as opposed to being entirely random.


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