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MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.19 00:53:00 - [1] there isnt a tech i bs out there i cant kill with a hype... you just cant do a duel rep... try a single rep/buffer tank... that with tackle and nutrons on overload will kill anything... though the onlything that would make the ship better is more pg.... (that way i can take of the pg rigs) no way you can just add a low slot... you would have to take away a high or a mid... just add some pg...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.20 03:47:00 - [2] Edited by: MeBiatch on 20/03/2010 03:53:45 Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: MeBiatch there isnt a tech i bs out there i cant kill with a hype... I would hazard a guess that says this is not true. :) -Liang ok name one? mael? toast mega? toast geddon? toast abbadon? toast phoon? toast blaster rokh? toast... torp raven? toast... i am not talking about fancy faction or pirate bs's... maybe i have been lucky but my setup is a beast and kills all! though please add more pg... i would like to have a bigger tank... edit: on a side not i would like to see all ships that get a bonus to reppers also affect incoming rr... this would make ships that have a repper bonus be good for fleet pvp... as it stands ammar and caldari get a resist bonus which affects both pve and pvp (rr is more effective with better resists) if CCP made all repper bonus ships also have that bonus affect rr that would make the ships way more viable for fleet combat.. do this and add some pg to the hype and we got the beast the ship is meant to be...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.20 21:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Liang Nuren I have to admit his idea of a Hype is pretty amazing. Here's some vital stats for a fit like the one he describes: - 1500+ DPS - 600 DPS tanked - 100K EHP That seems like a really mean ship to me! I'm thinking I couldn't beat it no way.... maybe 10:1 odds against me winning? But man with such long odds of me winning I guess I could put down 250M on the off chance that I might possibly win. -liang Right on... I don't think that other guy knows how much cap the hype gets (even with the mwd) I killed a tempy the other day who was shocked I only used 5 cap charges the whole fight since he had two heavy nuets on me... And once the guy is within 10km he is webbed and scramed... Though it would be an epic fight;)
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.21 02:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Liang Nuren So does that mean you want to duel a T1 (non-faction) battleship of my choice at 10:1 odds of me losing? I've put down 250M that I'll win, so you'd only be "risking" 2.5B. But it should be an easy win with a setup like that! :) -Liang Ed: And we'll definitely need to get a neutral party to hold the funds. :) so you risk 250 mill and i risk 2.5b(if i had 2.5b id go buy a rattlesnake and a moros)... some how this does not seem right... i think the isk put into the ship and its loss is enough 'risk' (unless you would want to do it on the test server...) then yeah i would bet like 100 mill or something reasonable...) curious though what ship would you bring? ships would have to have atleast one speed mod (ab or mwd) and tackle(min 1 point) also what would be start range? 20km? let me know eh? this could be fun even if i lost
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.21 16:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Kail Storm Originally by: MeBiatch Originally by: Liang Nuren I have to admit his idea of a Hype is pretty amazing. Here's some vital stats for a fit like the one he describes: - 1500+ DPS - 600 DPS tanked - 100K EHP That seems like a really mean ship to me! I'm thinking I couldn't beat it no way.... maybe 10:1 odds against me winning? But man with such long odds of me winning I guess I could put down 250M on the off chance that I might possibly win. -liang Right on... I don't think that other guy knows how much cap the hype gets (even with the mwd) I killed a tempy the other day who was shocked I only used 5 cap charges the whole fight since he had two heavy nuets on me... And once the guy is within 10km he is webbed and scramed... Though it would be an epic fight;) Biatch please link this wonder fit....1500+ DPS Lolz I bet on Liang in some sort of Torp/Dual Nuet Boat...In fact I`d put 100 Mil on it. Once your lumbering beast gets out of Range you sir are a gonner. the raven is slower and cant kill the hype with one full rack of missles(on overload) still your a moron and dont realise the ship gets alot of cap and two heavy nuets wont kill me... I'll admit its a close battle but sheesh... This whole started cuss i killed some lame ass in a torp raven... (yes the wonder torp/ duel nueting raven) hell i have killed torp ravens in a sentry/nueting domi... but yeah the hype does not get 1500+dps... its more around 1000+dps... 512 dps tank and 100k ehp... look you are fitting a tp to get max dps? that means also a mwd and a 1 point... that leaves you with 3 med slots for tank... not that much to play with... what? two invuls and a large extender? the raven is toast under 3 min... but yeah keep on talking like an ignorant punk...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.21 16:38:00 - [6] torp raven vrs blaster hype: raven setup: Rigs: 3 field extenders lows: 2 rcu II dcu II 2 bcuII meds: 100 mwd II 1 point tp II 2 invuls II large shield extender II highs: 6 siege launcers II 2 heavy unstable nuets with drones max dps : 1 scout 2 med 2 heavy could be subbed for ecm drones that gives you: 855m/s with mwd on about 100 ehp 1149 dps (210 from drones) 78 dps tank... runs without mwd on for 2.5 min (its a sweet setup and i found out about it when i killed it) now the hype: rigs: 2 pg rigs 1 aux nano pump lows: large armor rep II 1600 tungsten dcu II ex harder II 2 energy adaptives II meds: 100 mwd II scram webber sensor booster (could be subbed for a eccm or 1 point or second webber) heavy cap injector II (with 800's) highs: 8 nuetron blasters II (4 orge II could be subbed for ecm drones) this gives you: 931 m/s with mwd on 100k ehp 1016 dps 512 dps tank... as i said its a close fight... but i still come out of it alive in my big ship imo... plus i really like the way the hype looks tbh...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.21 17:18:00 - [7] Edited by: MeBiatch on 21/03/2010 17:40:02 Originally by: Liang Nuren Comments: - Your Hype fit kinda sucks. You're better off with the Ion version. - Your Raven fit REALLY sucks. -Liang ok liang lets see your setup... cuss i dont see you doing better... and maybe the raven does suck but thats the fit i killed... plus how would ions do better? edit: ok ran an ion setup... it does get a sh*t load of armor... like 31 000 giving it around 150 000 ehp... but also take into account that the nuetron setup gets 512 dps tank... so take my 100 ehp... lets say the fight lasts 2.5 (max time the raven can run two nuets) so that means i added 76000 ehp over the fight... i still like the nuetron setup better tbh but i see what you mean by the ion setup...
MeBiatch	Posted - 2010.03.21 17:29:00 - [8] Edited by: MeBiatch on 21/03/2010 17:30:15 Originally by: Kail Storm First Off the T RAVEN DOES NOT NEED A TP VS A HYPE...You use Faction Ammo and do full DMG Secondly for 1 v 1 Dueling perposes I find it funny your Active Repped and the Raven isnt. You would be fit for buffer and so would raven or if acvtive raven could use XL BOOSTER...Either way you only use 2 BCS`s to gimp it further, And while you may be able to survive a bit with the 2 heavy Nuets sucking u dry you cant MWD around while you are at all, this means that on your booster cycle the Torp raven can keep up transversal and changing range on you, So any good pilot knows that while you have to keep that Fugly beached whale right on top of the raven, the raven will nuet you then up transversal and you will either have to use ur MWD to keep up or get way lower DPS for a while or Swapp ammos. T Raven could really just get under your guns to where you cant get under his, he does same full DMG to you no matter what you do in your Hype and you will have fluctuating numbers and if the T raven pilot knows what he is doing he will keep trans up but more importantly he will screw you with range. So add 1 More BCS and the raven beats your DMG, take away the The TP doesnt need while fighting you and in a Duel he would also have option of using active tanked Raven. And lastly you have no NUETS he does, you can say it doesnt effect you and you have won before but those guys must have sucked 2 Heavy Nuets gimps you period. But most of all he can do same Explosive as he can EM/Kin/Thermal so you better pray he doesnt use it. While Caldari/Shield ships already have hi kinetic resists which is what your packing....Those 2 RCU`s are overkill you can use PDS`s and gain Cap, 8% shields, ad power. On paper yours is ok, in real life vs equal pilots I give my money to Nueted Raven, Hell maybe even a Vamp`d Active Blue pill raven, not my cup o tea but I have seen em work great. dude my setup has kin and therm lowest tank... ex is pretty high like 77%... and no i prefer to have the one repper on vrs a second 1600 and then put on 3 trimarks... (if i put on ions) dont know how you are fitting everything with only pdus on... you need the rcu on if you put on the nuets... and i dont see how active tanked raven is going to take on anything outside of pve... plus he does need the tp to do max dps against me( i have personally tested this with a corp mate)... my setup is based on RL fights.... as i said in my first post maybe i have been lucky.. but i have not lost 'yet'... i am sure you could find some really cool faction fit raven that could own me... but hey its a tech II setup.... let me guess you are using an ab? cuss thats the only way you are playing with range on me... cuss i got you scrammed and and a webber on you... please show me your setup... i really want to see... if its better then mine... i'll switch... but thus far i havent seen it... the ship does need a tp... i dont see how you are adding a 3rd bcu with two heavy nuets... maybe take off the dcu II?

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