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Bane Nucleus
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Posted - 2012.07.04 00:45:00 -
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Sigh.............already a post on SDing a few threads down. Please use some common sense and check to see if there is a recent previous thread on the subject you are posting about.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 10:32:00 -
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I don't care about a killmail for the sake of getting a kill. I care that when I look at the battle report, it doesn't accurately reflect what actually happened on the field.
Also, people don't SD for no reason. They do it because they are left with no choice, due to the actions of other players. A battle report should show this.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:49:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:I'm picking up the idea that people don't really care about it being an accurate report of what happened. Not really. But that they are more concerned with someone who had a lol fit have this recorded on their losses board. What for? If they only do lol fits they're just gonna die to the next guy anyway, whether or not this was recorded as happening before or not.
I even get the feeling you're main concern is disparaging other people. I don't see how anything more than the fight and their choice to blow up requires any kind of record. We all know CCP actively encourages faggotry in this game. But that's in game, by all means send tornados at mackinaws, but why do you need to record any of this whatsoever? Hey look at my ***** flapping around. It's not as big as it could be though waaaaaaaaahhh.
I don't even care if the SD mail shows a fit or value. Some people do sure, but you can't sit there and say that having an accurate battle report is a bad thing. And like what someone else said, sometimes the killboard is extra important for people. Mercs get hired a lot based soley on their killboard. Just because you don't seem to agree with that part of game doesn't make it any less important.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 12:56:00 -
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Elisa Fir wrote:
And oh, killboards are a inaccurate anyhow (or at least, a selective truth), but I guess we don't have to discuss the obvious.
That is my point right there. This is why I don't understand the objection to making the killboards more accurate. I figured everyone would want this.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:07:00 -
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Elisa Fir wrote:Some earn their ISK because of those inaccuracies, battles are won and lost on misjudging the opponent. Both Missing- and inaccurate information can be powerful tools.
Good intelligence information should require effort to collect, instead of it being presented to you on a silver platter.
This isn't about gathering intelligence. This is about an "after the fact" battle report being accurate. The battle is already over.
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:28:00 -
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Rroff wrote:Generally killmails are accurate enough - would be nice to see the inclusion of logistics in some capacity without them having to use agressive modules .
THIS. I love my Guardian so show it some damn love on killmails! 
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:35:00 -
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Mr Bigwinky wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:I'm picking up the idea that people don't really care about it being an accurate report of what happened. This is exactly what I want. What is a killmail?It is " A record of who was shooting at something when it exploded." And if a killmail was generated from an SDing ship whilst it was being shot at it would be...A record of who was shooting at something when it exploded.When you have lots of fights, it is nice to be able to record what happened automatically, this is where the killmail system comes in. Also don't compare docking with being in a POS, they're not the same. Wormholes do not equal Null-sec, the mechanics are quite different. Why should I lose out on having record of what happened just because you lost your ship a little quicker than if I had blown it up? Your ship is gone either way, why are we pretending like it didn't happen?
Flawless Victory
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Posted - 2012.07.04 13:55:00 -
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Ashimat wrote:
Yes, but its not only that. That's the problem.
Look at the Father of LOST go. 
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Posted - 2012.07.04 15:22:00 -
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Kalel Nimrott wrote:Quote:"If you build a fortress in there it is impossible to invade". The mechanics of infiltrating
capital ships into wormholes was discussed, as well as the "chain-collapsing" mechanic. CCP expressed some concern that as long as you were with a group of people, wormhole space is too safe. CCP was worried that the introduction of some sort of wormhole stabilizer would remove some of the everyday safety that people have grown to expect.GÇ¥ If CCP does this sh*t then W space will become Null. We don`t like null.
Wrong. It doesn't become null. It becomes empty
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Posted - 2012.07.05 12:51:00 -
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No. It's easy enough to invade lower class wormholes. It's also 20x easier to get a way in via k-space. I would call that a fair trade off for not having caps.
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Posted - 2012.07.05 21:15:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:
Yes they did, and they lost an expensive piece of hardware in the process.
Please keep crying over killmails you don't deserve, your tears are delicious [read: pathetic]
I still don't get why you are opposed to something reflecting accurately on a battle report. But if you really only want half the story to be shown, just say so.
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Posted - 2012.07.10 21:57:00 -
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Here is a fine example. TL gets jumped by an enemy fleet and they bring in a Moros. This is to help maul the Archon, flown by the famous pickle blapping fleet commander, DJswitch. They get his Archon down to 40% before him and the guys turn the tide of the fight (in a very professional fashion I might add).
Now the enemy fleet is scattering like cockroaches and the Moros is going nowhere. What does he do? You guessed it...he self destructs. After having actively been involved in the destruction of ships, he gets off without a km for his Moros.
Battle Report
Sure, he shows up on the killboard, but the loss of his Moros does not, even though it was lost because of the stellar skills of Double-Down, WH Anon, VFI, and VETO.
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:22:00 -
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Messoroz wrote:I self destruct cause I can. I self destructed a bellicose and logged off when we got invaded by 200 russians faggots in tengus.
Come at me haters.
Well that is just sound tactics, sir. Can't have a bellicose falling into enemy hands.
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