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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.11 14:51:00 -
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1st off I didnt read this whole thread I was just pointed here from a thread in general discussion. 2nd off this is cross posting but oh well.
 Originally by: Doppleganger
Oh please you dont need to train learning skills up right away, I didn't. I was about 3 months in before I even trained up the 1st tier learning skills to lvl 3 or 4 and that didnt take that long. I know for the longest time I didnt bother with the lvl 5 of the 1st tier learning skills cause someone figured out to get back in the time it took to train the skill I would have to play like 4 yrs.
Well ok I have played more then 4 yrs and back when I started there wasnt even the tier 2 of learning skills, they didnt come along until later. Even though I didnt get around to even thinking about training the learning skills until months and months into me playing, can anyone honestly say my training is gimped? or I am behind?
Sure if I had trained them all right away (if we would have had the tier 2 learning skills back then)I might have more like 135 mil sp instead of the 120 mil I got now.... no big loss. Not having the learning skills trained up right away didnt turn me off the game as I have been playing 7+ yrs and I certainly dont think having to train them has gimped my chars training.
I dont think removing them is bad as long as I get compensated for the time. After all if ppl are going to whine about having to train them then I guess I should whine about any lost sp for their removal.
I swear the game has changed but the group of ppl that play it has changed just as much. Most players dont seem to have the patience that this game requires. Dont worry its not a race, put your time in and you will get to the same place as us bitter old vets have. I didn't join Eve to try to race to the end game in a couple of months like other games try to get you to do, Eve doesnt hand you whatever you want just because you think you should have it.
I never thought I would be playing Eve this long but one of the things that has kept me playing is the nice steady pace of the game. I have grown to like that it takes a long time to get places it makes the game more attractive if you chose to play for the long haul.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.11 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: stoicfaux
The training skills can show significant savings in just the first month alone. This post shows how three days of learning skills can knock a week off of a month's worth of training to get into a PvP Rifter. It was a 30% savings in time. So your 120 million versus 135 million skill points example might be really low. If we apply a 30% savings to your example, then that 120 million could have been up to 170 million skill points, or that 7 years worth of skills could have been 10 years worth of skills. Or you could have completed that 7 years of skills in under 5 years. 
Yes but is that 30% increase because of the accelerated skill training new chars get as well? Because then that 30% would not equate over the life a char or does having the learning skills trained up actually accelerate all training after that by 30%? Plus I might not be figuring this in but back when I joined there was no char attrib remapping so when I wanted to train skills that were in my lower attribs I just had to suck it up and train it anyway.
I mean they already added the char attrib remapping some time ago and now ppl want to remove the training skills as well. I'm all for improving the game but I never saw anything wrong with the training in the 1st place.
I was patience and went out and fought while some of my skills trained slow and still enjoyed myself and I didnt see a prob.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.11 23:00:00 -
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I know I'm suprised how this is a problem since it has mostly been the same for 7 yrs. I mean if is this to make Eve more like all other mmos out there? or to get more of those ADD type players? Most players have always been proud that the hard learning curve of this game weeds out the less dedicated players. I still prefer the good ole time tested Eve formula.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.12 03:01:00 -
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Well if ppl can't figure out what learning skills are and why they are in the game there is a chance this game is already over their head. The game is a giant sandbox and its up to you to figure out what to do. Some ppl like myself didn't see a huge need to train the learning skills right off the bat until I know I was going to stick it in the game long term. Those that just think the learning skills are a waste of time and useless training well alot of skills in that game are that, sooner you accept the game better it is.
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the entire premise of everyone arguing against the skills is that they themselves do not contribute to the game and that they are a waste of time and should not exist in the first place.
You think they don't contribute to the game but I differ. I think they help build character and patience which is something you need in game. Its just part of the game you need to accept and use like a lot of what you do in game, its all the players choice.
I didnt pull my argument out of my ass I'm just trying to pull your head out of yours.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar
Imperium Technologies
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.06.12 13:09:00 -
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Did you train the learning skills and did they cause you to quit the game?
If the answer to those questions is no then there is no problem.
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pffft. If you're in this game to build character and patience, I think video games in general are beyond your understanding...
I use every opportunity I have to improve myself be it no matter what I do, be it a game or whatever. Don't you?
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