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Ravinus Brown
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.06.21 08:49:00 -
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Supported.
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ghdfhdfhdfhdf
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Posted - 2010.06.21 08:50:00 -
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Supported
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Cy Kopath
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Posted - 2010.06.24 15:59:00 -
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Definitely supported. The field commands are lagging behind quite badly these days.
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Andrea Montfaucon
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Posted - 2010.06.29 09:40:00 -
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:Necromancy:
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
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Posted - 2010.07.06 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Montfaucon :Necromancy:
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.07.07 06:46:00 -
[156]
Supported.
Thus far you shall read, but no further; for this is my sig. |
pHenomena1337
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.07.07 08:31:00 -
[157]
yea |
Corelich
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Posted - 2010.08.02 16:13:00 -
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Im a nearly pure pvpler and can fly the Sleipnir. I never do, because in most situations it dont bring enough benefits over hurricane, drake or Tempest.
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Amanda Eidolo
The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:02:00 -
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Yeah, supporting this. -------- ¦ |
Lifia Kerum
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Posted - 2010.08.03 12:30:00 -
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I support this idea, mostly in the fact that those Field CSs need a boost. Making them fit the role of 'small gang CS' as opposed the the Fleet CSs' 'fleet gang CS' would be a good way to increase their usefulness. Oh, and get their hull on par with tier 2 BCs (slots, PG/CPU...) ---
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Could we now get back on topic? It is tiring to verbally spank children early in the morning.
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wr3cks
Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.08.03 19:48:00 -
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Supported
Would love to take some of these out for a spin but the cost/quality tradeoff vastly favors BCs, as the OP states.
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Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.08.04 09:55:00 -
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kinda supporting the idea. For the price they should carry more tank and gank.
"There is no honor in war" |
Echo Gemini
Intergalactic Sunrise
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Posted - 2010.08.05 10:28:00 -
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Planting seeds of evil! |
Rebbi
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Posted - 2010.08.26 21:48:00 -
[164]
Supported
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Hack Harrison
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Posted - 2010.08.27 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hack Harrison on 27/08/2010 12:22:20 Edited by: Hack Harrison on 27/08/2010 12:21:03 I have a nighthawk and am doing some low sec pvp. I fly a drake for pvp and use the nighthawk as an uber l4 mission runner. The reason for this is I can't fly a vulture and I cannot get a viable pvp fit. I either can fit for some DPS/tank without a gang link or point, or I have to forego DPS with PG modules (8 days required still to use reactor IIs ) to try and keep some tank.
Now I won't say that either of these are perfect setups (just some quick EFT tests)
[Vulture, Gang Boosting w/mwd] Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Medium Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Siege Warfare Link - Active Shielding Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Siege Warfare Link - Shield Efficiency Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
[Nighthawk, Ground Up PvP All l5] Damage Control II Reactor Control Unit II Power Diagnostic System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
While the DPS on the Vulture is pretty low, it has a lot of shields (buffer) and can rep back up. The tank becomes MUCH more once you apply boosting. The net result is a very limited benefit in using the nighthawk over a drake, while the vulture IMHO is better in a small gang as it has a better chance of tanking if called primary while your fleet start killing the other sides ships...
Now if I use this setup (with boosting and all l5)
[Drake, Fleet Boosting PvP] Damage Control II Co-Processor II Power Diagnostic System II Reactor Control Unit II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Photon Scattering Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
I get less DPS, but more EHP and a much cheaper outlay due to ship cost
Something is definately not right here...
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Hack Harrison
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.09 03:12:00 -
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Bump - I want my nighthawk fixed...
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Ervol Libra
Pinky and the Brain corp
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Posted - 2010.09.09 11:19:00 -
[167]
make it worth the money
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Hack Harrison
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.14 04:18:00 -
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So I can now use the warfare link. It would be nice if I could use the ship for PvP fleet boosting as opposed to just PvE.
Fix it already!!!
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adriaans
Amarr Ankaa.
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Posted - 2010.10.22 19:36:00 -
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UP! --signature-- F.CS boost: Here Vid: Link |
Sagara Takeda
Black Dragon Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.23 08:15:00 -
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Supported. Fleet command ships need upgraded. These are T2 Battlecruisers.... T1 Battlecruisers shouldn't be owning them in stats and so forth. T2 cost more...T2 BC's require a **** ton of skills. They need to be better, plain and simple.
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Soporo
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Posted - 2010.10.23 15:28:00 -
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This comes up every year. Every year it gets ignored by CCP. It will continue to be ignored, as all other ballance issues usually are. Look how long it took lolRockets to get looked at.
Still, supported.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.10.30 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Montfaucon :Necromancy:
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Mashie Saldana
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.30 14:01:00 -
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Well I wouldn't mind a Sleipnir that can fit both point and web.
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Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2010.11.25 01:57:00 -
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WhisperOfDeath
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Posted - 2010.11.25 15:21:00 -
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Supported
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Jita mcheck
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Posted - 2010.11.25 22:54:00 -
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Nagging Girlfriend
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Posted - 2010.12.20 02:04:00 -
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Ranka Mei
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Posted - 2010.12.20 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sagara Takeda Supported. Fleet command ships need upgraded. These are T2 Battlecruisers.... T1 Battlecruisers shouldn't be owning them in stats and so forth. T2 cost more...T2 BC's require a **** ton of skills. They need to be better, plain and simple.
Yes, the skills required for a command ship are staggering, considering what it eventually delivers. Command ships deserve a boost. --
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.12.20 11:53:00 -
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Definitely need a revision, poor things have been stuck in mediocrity for years. Same for fleet commands really, the primary function of links is done much better by the T3s .. but first things first.
Originally by: Sagara Takeda ... T2 cost more...T2 BC's require a **** ton of skills. They need to be better, plain and simple.
Not quite as simple as that they can also provide something unavailable elsewhere (ex. Black Ops). Otherwise yeah, pretty much
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2010.12.20 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Anubis Xian on 20/12/2010 12:36:30 I'd say the biggest boost you could give to Field Commands without changing anything else is to give them 600 calibration.
And what is this about the Harbinger outDPSing the Absolution? Out alpha definately, but not out DPS.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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