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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 04:29:00 -
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Edited by: Pasha Cracken on 28/03/2010 04:31:22 This just in, a Noob FC named GustyGecko managed to get a MH capital / support fleet obliterated this evening.
During a lowsec pos bash in pakkonen, members of ôCry Havocö dropped a semi large battleship gang with a reported ô25 logistics shipsö Reports are that CH also failed to keep tackle on 2 of the supercarriers there, one getting out with 20% hull and the other close to entering hull as well, We snickered when we learned that one was a wyvern class supercarrier, how could they NOT kill ità..
Senior members of Mostly Harmless called this operation a ôComplete Failureö.
With the rumored campaign from IT and the SC reportedly starting in April, it looks as though the NC will still be training noobie FCs and the SC will encounter little, if not easy resistance.
ôI cant believe I messed up that hardö û GustyGecko [Rumored: New and upcoming NC capital FC]
Summery: noob fc looses 10 caps to cry havoc bs gang. To so called node crash
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jorggge
Caldari Sons of Viagra Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 04:33:00 -
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I Lol'd
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Super Twinkey69
Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.28 04:37:00 -
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Edited by: Super Twinkey69 on 28/03/2010 04:38:12 first-props to ch second-lol nc third-10 caps isnt worth **** so you are **** poster die of skin cancer and maybe worry about something other than something you had nothing to do with in the first place forth-see 'second' *fifth-yaay for nc head fc
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NRKey
Gallente Assisted Genocide
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Posted - 2010.03.28 04:42:00 -
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This post needs more German Giggles
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jorggge
Caldari Sons of Viagra Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: NRKey This post needs more German Giggles
I agree
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aldebaran asteroth
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:02:00 -
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seems to me that some one do not understand what BAN means
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jorggge
Caldari Sons of Viagra Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: aldebaran asteroth Edited by: aldebaran asteroth on 28/03/2010 06:13:03
Very informative post
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Leina Kubyeshev
Amarr Vengeance Imperium Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:23:00 -
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10 caps? how about you do your research.
link
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: Pasha Cracken Edited by: Pasha Cracken on 28/03/2010 04:31:22 ... We snickered when we learned that one was a wyvern class supercarrier, how could they NOT kill ità.. ...
Now i might have agreed if it was a Hel, Maybe even a Nyx. But i fail to see your logic, in the ease of killing a ship with mid 90% resists in its shields and 3mil shields. its Regen passively can tank 5k dps. Now you might be refering to the whole jumping in and fleet bonus gets reset thing well thats cool cept it only adds 300k shields 10% of the overall.
Then i came to my senses and realized you think that this whole situation is important..... Wyverns and Aeons are best tanked SC's so take what you thought you knew and apply that. Also remember that if there are multiple Regular Carriers on the field they are more than likely RR'ing with the Sc's...
Soo Really what we have here is a Case of you thought you were important, smart, witty, and Since that wrongful assumption has come to realize your not...
Please stop posting
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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:37:00 -
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so.....
confirming that NC lost 3 caps out of 21....
confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had......
(( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all))
Right....
Then i came to my senses and also realized that WI are still NC pets and are obviously sucking up to MH.
seriously? u mad?
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jorggge
Caldari Sons of Viagra Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:39:00 -
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Edited by: jorggge on 28/03/2010 06:39:27
Originally by: Pasha Cracken
confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had......
(( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all))
Wanted to confirm this as I was in the skype call.
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:43:00 -
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Edited by: Bobbeh on 28/03/2010 06:43:53 Sharpest tool in the shed here....
Not mad at all actually, 3 Caps thats such a HUGE loss.... How will we ever Recover.... Gotta tell my Corp we gotta quit now How will the NC ever recover from 3 carrier losses....
Seriously?? maybe thats big where you come from champ.
As for WI, are we pets? Tribute List Well that list begs to differ...
Sucking up to MH? Well now who doesnt love mynas, Vily and Lucian.
Im just simply pointing out your Lack of Common sense and your need for attention. Why else would you post this junk?
Edit** for Above
Originally by: jorggge Edited by: jorggge on 28/03/2010 06:39:27
Originally by: Pasha Cracken
confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had......
(( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all))
Wanted to confirm this as I was in the skype call.
Now i wont lie thats funny ****.
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Outfor Beer
Amarr Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:44:00 -
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Edited by: Outfor Beer on 28/03/2010 06:45:51 The story I see here is CH screwed up. They got greedy. Tried to chase down two rabbits and both getting away, if indeed they got 2 supercarriers to hull
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Pasha Cracken
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Bobbeh Edited by: Bobbeh on 28/03/2010 06:43:53 Sharpest tool in the shed here....
Not mad at all actually, 3 Caps thats such a HUGE loss.... How will we ever Recover.... Gotta tell my Corp we gotta quit now How will the NC ever recover from 3 carrier losses....
Seriously?? maybe thats big where you come from champ.
As for WI, are we pets? Tribute List Well that list begs to differ...
Sucking up to MH? Well now who doesnt love mynas, Vily and Lucian.
Im just simply pointing out your Lack of Common sense and your need for attention. Why else would you post this junk?
Edit** for Above
Originally by: jorggge Edited by: jorggge on 28/03/2010 06:39:27
Originally by: Pasha Cracken
confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had......
(( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all))
Wanted to confirm this as I was in the skype call.
Now i wont lie thats funny ****.
The post wasnt so much about a huge loss, it was about the hilarity of bashing a friend of ours, whos "becomming" an FC for MH / NC or something like that.
But seriously, the emo raging on skype was lol, wish I'd had recorded it....
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Bobbeh
Minmatar Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:49:00 -
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Edited by: Bobbeh on 28/03/2010 06:51:49
Originally by: Outfor Beer Edited by: Outfor Beer on 28/03/2010 06:45:51 The story I see here is CH screwed up. They got greedy. Tried to chase down two rabbits and both getting away, if indeed they got 2 supercarriers to hull
wont disagree with ya here, Unless 1 got away then they got the second to structure as well then it got away
Edit for above ***
As far as i can see he did a good job both SC's escaped all but 3 caps escaped. Sounds like he was actually able to stop a situation from getting much worse. Or maybe thats just the FC in me speaking
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Kumatsu
Gallente Metanoia. Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Pasha Cracken Edited by: Pasha Cracken on 28/03/2010 04:31:22 This just in, a Noob FC named GustyGecko managed to get a MH capital / support fleet obliterated this evening.
During a lowsec pos bash in pakkonen, members of ôCry Havocö dropped a semi large battleship gang with a reported ô25 logistics shipsö Reports are that CH also failed to keep tackle on 2 of the supercarriers there, one getting out with 20% hull and the other close to entering hull as well, We snickered when we learned that one was a wyvern class supercarrier, how could they NOT kill ità..
Senior members of Mostly Harmless called this operation a ôComplete Failureö.
With the rumored campaign from IT and the SC reportedly starting in April, it looks as though the NC will still be training noobie FCs and the SC will encounter little, if not easy resistance.
ôI cant believe I messed up that hardö û GustyGecko [Rumored: New and upcoming NC capital FC]
Summery: noob fc looses 10 caps to cry havoc bs gang. To so called node crash
I have to completely agree he has made alot of fail mistakes in his time as a eve player. Even back to the day he way bout to be kicked out of abh empire on that char a cried to the ceo to stay. Thanks for fueling Towers and ripping off the ppl ( ie Mo ) who helped you the most. And yes I seen that you supposedly sold the char / bought this after this incident which we all know is rubbish. As most will say Proof or STFU. But thought honestly youd learn to stay out of caps noob. ( back to gecko gecko eh? )

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DangerosoDavo
Gallente Stella Contego Security Stella Stargate Security
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Posted - 2010.03.28 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: DangerosoDavo on 28/03/2010 08:11:28 EDIT: No Super carriers where at the engagement in the begginning. There is a Nyx on the lossmail though.
Confirming i was at the fight (at the start and after lag would let me log back in) and it was I who asked C H to come and attack the NC who reinforced my Corps POS.
well, as C H Bridged in the lag kicked in even though local was at 116. About 15-20 mins later lag subsided as i guess CCP reinforced the node.
and the fight was back on, but C H got outnumberd as the rest of the voltron cynoed and bridged in and my corps POS was lost as C H left the field only losing a hadful of subcaps during the whole fightby the end of it they were outnumberd as many as 3:1 as local dropped from 200 to 160 as they left system.
That POS saw the death of around 10 Cap Ships during its lifetime, many Billions more than its worth. but it couldnt take on the might of the voltron. I have fraps footage of my guns cycling but not turning off and the lag.
Not bad though us being a small Corp of 22 Members, roughtly over half alts. Attracted the attention of the entire NC, there was people from every NC alliance there except RAGE AND TCF i think.
I guess the NC decided losing 3 Jump freighters is enough and several subcaps and indys over time. Still although not having a POS is an inconvienience, pakk is still unsafe for you, we are still here.
WTB Faction standing :D
Was fun to watch.
/me salutes the memory of Port Royal. You will be missed. http://scsi.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1292593 _______________________________________________ Regards Davo |

Dengen Krastinov
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pasha Cracken so.....
confirming that NC lost 3 caps out of 21....
confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had......
(( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all))
Right....
Then i came to my senses and also realized that WI are still NC pets and are obviously sucking up to MH.
seriously? u mad?
You truly are a complete idiot.
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r3voo
Gallente No Limit Productions Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 09:54:00 -
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Edited by: r3voo on 28/03/2010 09:56:33 Nice flaming Pasha Cracken.
So since NC is all noob. Why are you nerds always complaining about NC using 3/1 numbers when you guy's are for sure 5/1 better in combat?
Looks to me NC isent afraid to use beginner fc's for small cap fleet.
And WI is full member of NC. http://standings.morsus-mihi.org/
This is just in. Pasha Cracken is a total fail in flaming and basicly in everything he does.
And please dont act like a kid now and correct my grammar. It only shows how more nerd you are in rl.
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RifterDrifter
Minmatar They Found Oil On Your Anus
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Posted - 2010.03.28 09:54:00 -
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ITT WiDOT defending NC honour honor _______________________________________________
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Mankell Grenze
Caldari GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.03.28 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: RifterDrifter ITT WiDOT defending NC honour honor
ITT kids try to boost their ego by posting irrelevant **** about an irrelevant battle where 3 caps were lost.
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Graelyn
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pasha Cracken so..... confirming that NC lost 3 caps out of 21.... confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had...... (( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all)) Right.... Then i came to my senses and also realized that WI are still NC pets and are obviously sucking up to MH. seriously? u mad?
I thought Butter Dog was the tard poster in Ushra'Khan. You two must be 'special friends'.
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Leina Kubyeshev 10 caps? how about you do your research.
link
Jozana Armageddon Navy Issue Invicta. Cry Havoc.
and didn't lose it to the cap blob, I love my corp we don't afraid of anything.
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GutsyGecko
Gallente THORN Syndicate Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.03.28 14:27:00 -
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Random noobs please stop pm'ing me, there was a fight, we lost 3 caps, get over it. This guy is clearly talking ****.  
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Kristian
Amarr Beacon Light Corporation Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 15:14:00 -
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Yeah Josh, quit acting like a douche bag
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 28/03/2010 16:19:02
Originally by: Graelyn
Originally by: Pasha Cracken so..... confirming that NC lost 3 caps out of 21.... confirming that noob FC really acted like a badass by bragging to said friends on skyp about having a bigger cap fleet then he had...... (( he still emo'd on skype and blocked us all)) Right.... Then i came to my senses and also realized that WI are still NC pets and are obviously sucking up to MH. seriously? u mad?
I thought Butter Dog was the tard poster in Ushra'Khan. You two must be 'special friends'.
UK actually have a CAOD ban because of people like the OP - UK is full of really ****ty posters
also OP needs to learn the difference between 'lose' and 'loose' ----------
~bitter dog~
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Outfor Beer Edited by: Outfor Beer on 28/03/2010 07:00:28 Edited by: Outfor Beer on 28/03/2010 06:45:51 The story I see here is CH screwed up. They got greedy. Tried to chase down two rabbits and both getting away, if indeed they got 2 supercarriers to hull.
I think the NC FC should be commended for 1. leading 2. not turning a bad situation worst 3. getting out with just 3 cap lost
I think you are a little confused over who is lying in this thread. No motherships were harmed in the making of this skirmish.
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Ugleb
Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.28 16:53:00 -
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All Ushra'Khan members are blunty reminded of the TOTAL CAOD BAN we currently have in place precisely because of threads such as this.
Funnily enough, I'm writing a Council Update with a reminder about that very ban right now. How timely.
I look forwards to your reading it. Again. 
The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation |

Estios
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:22:00 -
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Breaking news there is a difference between looses and loses.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Tiger's Spirit
Caldari 24th Imperial Guard
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:30:00 -
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Breaking news here a megafail. Where is that lost capital fleet ? 
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:40:00 -
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Edited by: Metal Dude on 28/03/2010 17:40:52
Originally by: Ugleb All Ushra'Khan members are blunty reminded of the TOTAL CAOD BAN we currently have in place precisely because of threads such as this.
Funnily enough, I'm writing a Council Update with a reminder about that very ban right now. How timely.
I look forwards to your reading it. Again. 
Between CCPÆs posting rules and Alliance CAOD bans, is there really need for CAOD anymore?
I remember when CAOD used to be a fun place where people could express their opinions, have heated conversations, encourage responses and consequences of instigating PVP, using propaganda as a tool for war. There used to be 3-4 new pages of posts a day and it was an extension of the game itself. Now, itÆs just a waste of bandwidth.
The truth will set you free
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BlueMajere
Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: DangerosoDavo Edited by: DangerosoDavo on 28/03/2010 08:15:59
and the fight was back on, but C H got outnumberd as the rest of the voltron cynoed and bridged in
1. m8 u r liar we were not there, wat is this voltron u speak of?
2. f the nc they are babbies we wuld nevur help them.
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.03.28 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ugleb All Ushra'Khan members are blunty reminded of the TOTAL CAOD BAN we currently have in place precisely because of threads such as this.
Funnily enough, I'm writing a Council Update with a reminder about that very ban right now. How timely.
I look forwards to your reading it. Again. 
All cool guys have CAOD-alts anyway. ___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |

Charlemeign
Gallente BESTIAL CARNAGE
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Posted - 2010.03.28 18:03:00 -
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wtf o_O I need to get back to pakkonen
BESTI Merc Service |

Major PewPew
Gallente The Dark Horses WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Bobbeh
Originally by: Pasha Cracken Edited by: Pasha Cracken on 28/03/2010 04:31:22 ... We snickered when we learned that one was a wyvern class supercarrier, how could they NOT kill ità.. ...
Now i might have agreed if it was a Hel, Maybe even a Nyx. But i fail to see your logic, in the ease of killing a ship with mid 90% resists in its shields and 3mil shields. its Regen passively can tank 5k dps. Now you might be refering to the whole jumping in and fleet bonus gets reset thing well thats cool cept it only adds 300k shields 10% of the overall.
Then i came to my senses and realized you think that this whole situation is important..... Wyverns and Aeons are best tanked SC's so take what you thought you knew and apply that. Also remember that if there are multiple Regular Carriers on the field they are more than likely RR'ing with the Sc's...
Soo Really what we have here is a Case of you thought you were important, smart, witty, and Since that wrongful assumption has come to realize your not...
Please stop posting
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Xikorita
Gallente Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.03.31 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
I remember when CAOD used to be a fun place where people could express their opinions, have heated conversations, encourage responses and consequences of instigating PVP, using propaganda as a tool for war. There used to be 3-4 new pages of posts a day and it was an extension of the game itself. Now, itÆs just a waste of bandwidth.
I am playing for about an year and have never seen this caod you described =(
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Mr Adebisi
Minmatar ElitistOps
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Posted - 2010.04.01 01:12:00 -
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what is it with stupid pubbies and misspelling 'lose' as 'loose' ????
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Deja Thoris
Amarr Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.04.01 03:53:00 -
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This thread is complete bull****. The battlereport from MS is below. Yes they got jumped but they had no supercarriers on the field at the time. I suggest the bull**** about SC's tackled is to get the NC to form up a jesus blob a little quicker. Anyway the BR....
------------ We get pinged by a small neutral group that got their POS sieged by NC in Pakkonen and wanted to know if we'd lend a hand. Initial sieging group wasn't that large, but NC are good at scheduled form-ups, so we figure they may be a bit larger. CH gang is ~40 rr BS and a dozen support.
We watch for a bit, get sidetracked trying to go fight a nearby Rooks & Kings gang (who mostly just see us and say yeah right), and eventually get word NC has shown up at the POS. ~20 dreads, 4 carriers, and a few dozen support (~10 BS). Two NC gangs reported incoming, but they're both a few jumps out still, so in we go.
We land on the hostile capital group and tackle dreads and carriers. One carrier jumps out and we melt the other Thanatos. Quickly switch to the Chimera and apply the same to him. Before we can get through the third one, however, the first NC gang jumps in and the system turns to sludge. Local hits ~160 and we're cycling guns to apply any damage. Everything... slows.... way.... down.
We've got a hostile archon in low armor but need to turn attention to subcaps for a bit. Lock up targets and slam half a dozen battleships down. System is complete sludge, but generally we can alpha out battleships, though whoever gets the final blow is out of the fight for a while of course. After scouring half a dozen of the local battleships we catch a couple of the enemy logistics and pop these then go back to the enemy archon.
Second hostile group arrives and cyno goes up. Local well over 200 now. We figure they'll be stuck on the gridload and stay on the archon. Hostile carriers do eventually make it in, though they're as lagged out as we are. We kill the archon and they.. warp out.
We burn back into better range on the dreads and start working on a moros but the system is still sludge. Pop a couple enemy subcaps but they give a warp-in to the hostile dread fleet and all the carriers warp back in and start repping and lending fighters. At this point we decide we're unlikely to break much more and align out. Kill a couple tackle that get to close, lose a dominix that is too far, and leave the field.
Total Kills / Losses pretty light considering how many ships involved, but that's sadly par for the course with larger lowsec battles.
Kills: 3 Carrier, 7 BS, 1 BC, 2 Logistic, 1 Bomber, 1 Cruiser, 1 Inty Losses: 3 BS
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Nemulus
Gallente The Darkness Within Death Rhubarb
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Posted - 2010.04.01 11:04:00 -
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Nice BR and seems to go with the KB stats, wish people would just do what the CH guy did and do the truth not trolls/flaming :(. You can get the truth on here its sifting thro all the cr*p to get to it that is annoying.
Nem
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Typherian
Minmatar Legio Invicta Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.04.05 13:39:00 -
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What is it with UK and posting lots of BS to feel important. Let your -A- masters do the talking. Anyway yeah that BR has no mention of SCs so I wonder why the starting claim mentioned failed tackles on SCs... and I really don't call the BR losses obliterated. Mildly stung maybe. Thanks for the BR to clear up some of the UK sludge.
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titanstory
Amarr Section XIII Cursed Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.05 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: titanstory on 05/04/2010 14:09:13
Originally by: Pasha Cracken
Summery: noob fc looses 10 caps to cry havoc bs gang. To so called node crash
your report is terrible, 3 cap killed and you said it was a cap fleet..
you'r more terrible than me m8, stop posting.
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Orree
Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.04.05 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 28/03/2010 17:40:52
Originally by: Ugleb All Ushra'Khan members are blunty reminded of the TOTAL CAOD BAN we currently have in place precisely because of threads such as this.
Funnily enough, I'm writing a Council Update with a reminder about that very ban right now. How timely.
I look forwards to your reading it. Again. 
Between CCPÆs posting rules and Alliance CAOD bans, is there really need for CAOD anymore?
I remember when CAOD used to be a fun place where people could express their opinions, have heated conversations, encourage responses and consequences of instigating PVP, using propaganda as a tool for war. There used to be 3-4 new pages of posts a day and it was an extension of the game itself. Now, itÆs just a waste of bandwidth.
Well, I think that there is definitely a need, but I agree with you that CAOD in its current form is a really sad and pathetic place and 95% (being generous, I know) of what passes for posts here is complete drivel.
We did finally get a great battle report post in this thread from Deja Thoris (of Cry Havoc, a group which can usually be depended upon to not crap things up around here). So, at least it wasn't a total waste of time. 
---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli |
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