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Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 02:24:00 - [1] Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 02:25:31 Here is one of 3 killmails of "Mike C" knowingly podding someone with his smartbombs. He doomsdayed FrickItsJon's Onyx in FFA2 and kept smartbombing. He also podded "Fird" and "Weghin", in blatant disregard of the test server rules. 2010.03.30 02:10:00 Victim: FrickItsJon Corp: FinFleet Alliance: IT Alliance Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 465 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Large Graviton Smartbomb II Damage Done: 465 I like pie.
Fird	Posted - 2010.03.30 02:53:00 - [2] I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:00:00 - [3] Here is one of 3 killmails of "Mike C" knowingly podding someone with his smartbombs. He doomsdayed FrickItsJon's Onyx in FFA2 and kept smartbombing. you guys had 3 nyx's going at him with fighter bomber's he was using the sb's to kill the fb's. many people die to sb's because of it. trust me you have done it somewhere along the line also. shut up and get over it. u lost a titan kill. its sisi
Mike C Caldari Ipuvaepe Industries	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:01:00 - [4] If you bring a hictor to 0 on a titan that is smartbombing, seriously. It's not like I can exactly avoid that. You had me tackled on the beacon and I escaped, you're mad so you dropped three nyx on my bud's pos. Also I doomsdayed someone's phobos and someone's onyx. In any case I did nothing wrong, cya. All I can say is 'Whoops, you should have been more careful'. 2010.03.30 02:09:00 Victim: FrickItsJon Corp: FinFleet Alliance: IT Alliance Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Onyx System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 21545 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Judgement Damage Done: 21545 2010.03.30 01:59:00 Victim: emortal17 Corp: FinFleet Alliance: IT Alliance Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Phobos System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 25267 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Judgement Damage Done: 25267 Also here are the other two pod kills I just grabbed from my sheet 2010.03.30 02:05:00 Victim: weghin Corp: Interstellar Dynamics - SiSi Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 216 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Large Graviton Smartbomb II Damage Done: 216 2010.03.30 02:10:00 Victim: Fird Corp: SH Brotherhood Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 250 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Large Graviton Smartbomb II Damage Done: 250 ↑↑ bar is just /quote ↑↑ [03:17:29] Trade Skills > Jesus believes in god [03:17:38] Mike C > believed* [03:17:48] Trade Skills > touche
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:04:00 - [5] Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 03:07:06 LOL. You might want to take a look HERE. Originally by: CCP Mephysto GENERAL RULES 1) NO PODDING. FD-MLJ RULES 1) NO PODDING!" Originally by: Mike C In any case I did nothing wrong... Originally by: Mike C If you bring a hictor to 0 on a titan that is smartbombing, seriously. It's not like I can exactly avoid that. You had me tackled on the beacon and I escaped, you're mad so you dropped three nyx on my bud's pos. Also I doomsdayed someone's phobos and someone's onyx. In any case I did nothing wrong, cya. All I can say is 'Whoops, you should have been more careful'. 2010.03.30 02:09:00 Victim: FrickItsJon Corp: FinFleet Alliance: IT Alliance Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Onyx System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 21545 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Judgement Damage Done: 21545 2010.03.30 01:59:00 Victim: emortal17 Corp: FinFleet Alliance: IT Alliance Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Phobos System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 25267 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Judgement Damage Done: 25267 Also here are the other two pod kills I just grabbed from my sheet 2010.03.30 02:05:00 Victim: weghin Corp: Interstellar Dynamics - SiSi Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 216 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Large Graviton Smartbomb II Damage Done: 216 2010.03.30 02:10:00 Victim: Fird Corp: SH Brotherhood Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Capsule System: FD-MLJ Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 250 Involved parties: Name: Mike C (laid the final blow) Security: 2.1 Corp: Ipuvaepe Industries Alliance: Doomsday Testing Faction: NONE Ship: Avatar Weapon: Large Graviton Smartbomb II Damage Done: 250 I like pie.
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:11:00 - [6] Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 03:11:44 Originally by: blade190 Here is one of 3 killmails of "Mike C" knowingly podding someone with his smartbombs. He doomsdayed FrickItsJon's Onyx in FFA2 and kept smartbombing. you guys had 3 nyx's going at him with fighter bomber's he was using the sb's to kill the fb's. many people die to sb's because of it. trust me you have done it somewhere along the line also. shut up and get over it. u lost a titan kill. its sisi You can't kill fighter bombers without officer smartbombs and since he doesn't have the Titan nor the smartbombs on TQ, he did little to no damage to any of them. I like pie.
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:12:00 - [7] you might want to see...you have done it.... you might want to ask or even look there are accidents.... you might also look that as far as i can see you lost no sp what so ever..... get over it... i've been podded so many times its not funny... i have lost sp on sisi. u have one pod loss and 1 post on here... as it stands i have about 20 pod losses and not a one on here. **** happens its sisi. get over yourself
Mike C Caldari Ipuvaepe Industries	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:16:00 - [8] If you warp into a smartbomb, it's your fault. There is and never has been any rule against smartbombs on sisi. I podded three (assuming hictor) pilots who got too close accidently. You cut in front of an 18 wheeler with a dirtbike and fell, it's not the truck's fault. ↑↑ bar is just /quote ↑↑ [03:17:29] Trade Skills > Jesus believes in god [03:17:38] Mike C > believed* [03:17:48] Trade Skills > touche
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:18:00 - [9] ok even then. sb's = 6000m range. hic's = at 0. sb do dmg. dmg kills stuff. see how this works ?
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:23:00 - [10] also some were using fighters. t2 smartbombs can CAN kill fighters so. therefore... he had a right to have them on
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:30:00 - [11] I didn't realize the concept was so hard to understand. Podding in any circumstance (bar "Hey podkill me", which definately didn't take place in terms of FrickItsJon) is AGAINST THE RULES. Doesn't matter if it's accidental, doesn't matter if it's on purpose. YOu are trying to legitimize it as if it's the person who was fighting against you's fault. It's not THEIR fault for following the rules, it's yours for breaking them. In all of the ways you try to legitimize it, you're saying that I can warp in to FFA1 in a ship with a smartbomb or two and "accidentally" pod anybody that happens to die within range and tell them that they should have been 7.5km or further from me. Stop trying to play off the fact that you knew your smartbombs could pod people and still proceeded to use them when you killed people. I like pie.
Mike C Caldari Ipuvaepe Industries	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:36:00 - [12] Rather I'm at 50km from ffa2 and you warp to me knowing I have smartbombs on. In your logic, it is at best griefing the rules on your part. You are either unintelligible or simply ignorant, so I'll be closing this tab now. ↑↑ bar is just /quote ↑↑ [03:17:29] Trade Skills > Jesus believes in god [03:17:38] Mike C > believed* [03:17:48] Trade Skills > touche
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 03:42:00 - [13] ok u tell me if u are dying in a mothership or in a titan the first ****ing thing your going to do it say hey let me turn these off for a sec so he can get his pod out. No, you have chances to warp out a sb does not insta kill u they go maybe 3 rounds before killing u in that time u can warp.
Anile8er FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.30 04:48:00 - [14] Confirming that Mike C was smartbombing when he clearly knew that a ship destruction within his smartbomb range could result in a podding. Podding is against the rules on SISI and it is the player with the smartbomb who is responsible for ensuring that he or she does not smartbomb a nearby pod. Running your smartbombs on SISI is not a problem, running them while you DD someone's ship or someone's ship is destroyed by other means within your smartbomb range resulting in their pod being exposed to the smartbombs is. Smartbombing multiple pods in the course of several minutes shows a clear disregard for the clearly stated rules for the test server.
Sith LordX	Posted - 2010.03.30 04:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Fird I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz My thoughts exactly.
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 04:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Sith LordX Originally by: Fird I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz My thoughts exactly. LOL @ hiding behind an alt. I like pie.
Anile8er FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.30 04:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Sith LordX Originally by: Fird I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz My thoughts exactly. How is it an accident when you choose to keep your smartbomb cycles going even though you know there will be pods exposed to them?
Lucifer's Ghost Minmatar Native Fishfood	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Anile8er Originally by: Sith LordX Originally by: Fird I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz My thoughts exactly. How is it an accident when you choose to keep your smartbomb cycles going even though you know there will be pods exposed to them? How difficult is it to warp safely away between cycles instead of sitting there and waiting for the next cycle to kill you? -------------------------------------------------- Real Men Pod Tank
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:47:00 - [19] How thick are some of you guys? PODDING SOMEONE IS AGAINST THE RULES OF THE TEST SERVER. Is it that hard to understand? You are not allowed to do it, no matter what. Accident or not, it is not allowed. Killing a capsule of another player is not to be done. There is no killing of pods on the test server. How many ways can it be said. It's the only rule stated twice, because IT IS NOT ALLOWED. What the hell is wrong with people when they can't comprehend this? I like pie.
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 06:58:00 - [20] why did the pod not warp out? he had time takes maybe 2 volleys with 2 sb's going. also maybe you could have done this for fun. there many ways to get a pod out of dieing from a sb. you knew u were dying. u knew he sb's going. click on something and spam warp. also the other two people did not care whether or not they got podded. they were helping defend
Anile8er FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:04:00 - [21] Originally by: Lucifer's Ghost Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 30/03/2010 06:30:07 Originally by: Anile8er Originally by: Sith LordX Originally by: Fird I was accidently podded trying to save the titan. it happens all the time. Get over yourself, you're just angry cause the Avatar got away...lolz My thoughts exactly. How is it an accident when you choose to keep your smartbomb cycles going even though you know there will be pods exposed to them? How difficult is it to warp safely away between cycles instead of sitting there and waiting for the next cycle to kill you? Not to mention, if he was still under attack, and you/they hung around in your pods instead of warping away, then to be honest... the podding was your fault, not his. I have never lost a pod to anybody after losing a ship unless I hung around after the ship exploded. Ship Loss 101 as your ship starts into hull, start clicking warp on a planet or other object so your pod will insta warp away. Not having been there, I don't know the full particulars of the battle, but if as I surmise he was still under attack when those pods exploded, then the fault lies with the pilots of the pods, and not the pilot trying to save his ship. As I asked, how does that make it an accident? Once you answer that I refer you to the rule about not podding.
Lucifer's Ghost Minmatar Native Fishfood	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Zarthanon How thick are some of you guys? PODDING SOMEONE IS AGAINST THE RULES OF THE TEST SERVER. Is it that hard to understand? You are not allowed to do it, no matter what. Accident or not, it is not allowed. Killing a capsule of another player is not to be done. There is no killing of pods on the test server. How many ways can it be said. It's the only rule stated twice, because IT IS NOT ALLOWED. What the hell is wrong with people when they can't comprehend this? You are slow to understand something very simple. While podding isn't allowed, if combat is going, and a pilot sticks around knowing full well combat is still going just so his pod will get exploded so he can use the excuse that "podding isn't allowed" to get someone banned from the test server, then who's fault is it? Hmmmm? Ever thought that through? No? Yeah didn't figure you were smart enough to do that. -------------------------------------------------- Real Men Pod Tank
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:17:00 - [23] Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 07:22:33 You are slow to understand that merely sitting around for 8 seconds while looking at a different character can get you podded. There was no reason to be actively staring at a character that is not taking damage and was holding one of many points on the Avatar. He got doomsdayed, instantly died, and being that it was the test server--there's no reason he should even have to worry about someone repeatedly breaking the rules 3 times in 5 minutes and continually podding people. I like pie.
Lucifer's Ghost Minmatar Native Fishfood	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:23:00 - [24] Originally by: Zarthanon You are slow to understand that merely sitting around for 8 seconds while looking at a different character can get you podded. There was no reason to be looking actively staring at a character that is not taking damage and was holding one of many points on the Avatar. He got doomsdayed, instantly died, and being that it was the test server--there's no reason he should even have to worry about someone repeatedly breaking the rules 3 times in 5 minutes and continually podding people. So what your saying is, you commonly sit around while in combat with a ship and browse another character instead of paying attention to what your doing. And you want to blame the other pilot, who was being aggressed, because he didn't stop defending himself, just because YOU were sitting next to him and didn't warp away after your ship exoploded. So he should just let his ship get blown up, because you are sitting next to him in a pod. yes, I see your reasoning. I see now that I can go onto the test server and find fights where people are smart bombing, fly up to them in my pod. Get blown up, and get them banned for it. Makes great sense to me. I'll be seeing you on the test server soon. Don't use smart bombs. I'll be in my pod, nestled right up against your ship. -------------------------------------------------- Real Men Pod Tank
Anile8er FinFleet IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:24:00 - [25] Originally by: Lucifer's Ghost Originally by: Zarthanon How thick are some of you guys? PODDING SOMEONE IS AGAINST THE RULES OF THE TEST SERVER. Is it that hard to understand? You are not allowed to do it, no matter what. Accident or not, it is not allowed. Killing a capsule of another player is not to be done. There is no killing of pods on the test server. How many ways can it be said. It's the only rule stated twice, because IT IS NOT ALLOWED. What the hell is wrong with people when they can't comprehend this? You are slow to understand something very simple. While podding isn't allowed, if combat is going, and a pilot sticks around knowing full well combat is still going just so his pod will get exploded so he can use the excuse that "podding isn't allowed" to get someone banned from the test server, then who's fault is it? Hmmmm? Ever thought that through? No? Yeah didn't figure you were smart enough to do that. You are failing to understand a simple concept. There is no podding allowed on SISI. On SISI advantagous combative player actions do not overrule following the rules. I.E. smartbombing to get drones off your ship does not overrule the no podding rule. Therefore even if smartbombing would save your ship it is not permitted if it endangers another players pod. Therefore you can not smartbomb when another player's pod is near your ship. I can also confirm that FrickitsJon did not leave his pod there so he could get podded. FrickitsJon is not an alt of the person who posted this OP. FrickitsJon was however multi-accounting and therefore did not react as quickly to getting his pod out. You may reply with "well Mike C may have been multi-accounting and didn't react quickly to turning his smartbombs off." The rules posted about the test server would indicate that the responsiblity lay on the player with the smartbombs.
Zarthanon	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:28:00 - [26] Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 07:29:45 Let me get this right Lucifer, we're talking about a guy who podded one person with his smartbomb, knowing what he was doing was against the rules. Kept smartbombing for another 3 minutes, podded another person, then continued for another minute and podded a third person--AND YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM. Good job. I like pie.
Lucifer's Ghost Minmatar Native Fishfood	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:31:00 - [27] Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 30/03/2010 07:36:26 Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 30/03/2010 07:33:12 Originally by: Anile8er Originally by: Lucifer's Ghost Originally by: Zarthanon How thick are some of you guys? PODDING SOMEONE IS AGAINST THE RULES OF THE TEST SERVER. Is it that hard to understand? You are not allowed to do it, no matter what. Accident or not, it is not allowed. Killing a capsule of another player is not to be done. There is no killing of pods on the test server. How many ways can it be said. It's the only rule stated twice, because IT IS NOT ALLOWED. What the hell is wrong with people when they can't comprehend this? You are slow to understand something very simple. While podding isn't allowed, if combat is going, and a pilot sticks around knowing full well combat is still going just so his pod will get exploded so he can use the excuse that "podding isn't allowed" to get someone banned from the test server, then who's fault is it? Hmmmm? Ever thought that through? No? Yeah didn't figure you were smart enough to do that. You are failing to understand a simple concept. There is no podding allowed on SISI. On SISI advantagous combative player actions do not overrule following the rules. I.E. smartbombing to get drones off your ship does not overrule the no podding rule. Therefore even if smartbombing would save your ship it is not permitted if it endangers another players pod. Therefore you can not smartbomb when another player's pod is near your ship. I can also confirm that FrickitsJon did not leave his pod there so he could get podded. FrickitsJon is not an alt of the person who posted this OP. FrickitsJon was however multi-accounting and therefore did not react as quickly to getting his pod out. You may reply with "well Mike C may have been multi-accounting and didn't react quickly to turning his smartbombs off." The rules posted about the test server would indicate that the responsiblity lay on the player with the smartbombs. And you stepped right past what I said. Using pods and the no podding rule as a method of greifing players on SISI and getting them banned because you think it's funny and fun to do. I notice you work hard to not acknowledge THAT little exploit of the no podding rules. I wager that is because you are trying to use it to get the titan pilot banned. Originally by: Zarthanon Edited by: Zarthanon on 30/03/2010 07:29:45 Let me get this right Lucifer, we're talking about a guy who podded one person with his smartbomb, knowing what he was doing was against the rules. Kept smartbombing for another 3 minutes, podded another person, then continued for another minute and podded a third person--AND YOU ARE DEFENDING HIM. Good job. I find it interesting that THREE people would be stupid enough to get their ships blown up in combat and just SIT THERE knowing their pod was next. Sorry cupcake but the fact is, you are trying to use the no podding rule to grief another player by forcing them to allow you to destroy their ship (A Titan) or barring that get them banned. I personally hope YOU get banned for it and not the Titan pilot. -------------------------------------------------- Real Men Pod Tank
blade190	Posted - 2010.03.30 07:42:00 - [28] Edited by: blade190 on 30/03/2010 07:44:07 1. your friend said it himself its the pod pilots fault he did not warp out cause here and i a quote "I can also confirm that FrickitsJon did not leave his pod there so he could get podded. FrickitsJon is not an alt of the person who posted this OP. FrickitsJon was however multi-accounting and therefore did not react as quickly to getting his pod out." so yes he did leave his pod there. He was multi accounting AND he knew he was dieing therefore he knew he had to get his pod out or get podded AND he switched to another acc. It takes 2 volleys with 2 sb's going to kill a pod, thats what maybe 30 sec, he had plenty of time to see he was dead or to warp. so technically pilots fault not titans fault
Tiger's Spirit Caldari	Posted - 2010.03.30 08:29:00 - [29] Podding not enabled in Sisi. Rules is rules. Not need other words like: i tried to save me from enemy, your mistake etc. He podded many members there, so just ban from testserver.
Lucifer's Ghost Minmatar Native Fishfood	Posted - 2010.03.30 08:35:00 - [30] Edited by: Lucifer''s Ghost on 30/03/2010 08:35:41 Originally by: Tiger's Spirit Podding not enabled in Sisi. Rules is rules. Not need other words like: i tried to save me from enemy, your mistake etc. He podded many members there, so just ban from testserver. Ok so next time your being attacked and fighting drones with SB's in your Titan, I'll pull my reaper right up against you and sit there until it blows up, then sit there in my pod until IT blows up. Even though I could fly away, and when you pod me.. get you banned. This is basically what happened here. Titan isn't a ship that can be easily replaced on SISI. You can't just go to the market and buy one for 100 isk like you can with non cap ships. To deliberately use a pod to force a Titan pilot to allow you to kill his ship that takes so long to rebuild and replace, even on Sisi, is griefing and as such, the person that did it should get banned LONG before the titan pilot does. So sorry, but your logic fails on that point. Try again. -------------------------------------------------- Real Men Pod Tank

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