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Shrike Arghast	Posted - 2010.04.02 22:34:00 - [61] Edited by: Shrike Arghast on 02/04/2010 22:41:38 Edited by: Shrike Arghast on 02/04/2010 22:38:33 Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti Originally by: Seriously Bored Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth No gravity, no difference in direction regardless which engine is putting out more thrust. =P You still have center of mass to contend with...the vector of thrust matters a lot in space. This is probably one of the more offensive aspects of current Eve ship design. Not only are the ugly, but they make no sense. The lack of axial symmetry makes no sense. And the fact that some ships have symmetry and some don't is even more bothersome. There are some aspects of these ships that just defy the known laws of physics: - Asymmetrical engine layouts. Bad: Typhoon + most Caldari ships. Good: Ferox Eh, I feel like the Raven could work, but maybe that's just me. It at least looks like a good, sturdy, chunky ship that could take a fair amount of punishment. Quote: - Ditto asymmetrical mass distribution. Bad: Raven, Osprey. Good Ferox again Perhaps, but the front of the Ferox makes me want to bas my head into a wall... if the Ferox hadn't already beaten me to it. It's a ship I like from all angles except the most important: the front. Quote: - Long, pencil-like shape. Agility requires the ship be compact around the center of mass Yes, absolutely. The Maelstrom is a friggin' joke in this regard. Plus, there's the equal importance of structural stability. From appearance alone, I'd wager that a beefer boat like a Dominix (although I hate how they look) or a Brutix could take a hell of a lot more punishment than a Maelstrom any day of the week. It's like the difference between a baseball and a pencil - which absorbs more force before breaking? Quote: - Long booms and bits that stick out. Bad: Tempest. Good: Drake The Tempest is like the joke battleship of EVE - it looks like its already missing major parts, and a few missiles would all that would be required to break it apart. Seriously: I don't care how strong your shields or alloys are, one I start pummeling that long, crane-like neck, you're going to have a ship sans bridge in about 30 seconds. I disagree whole-heartedly about the Drake, however; it suffers from the same lack of mass as the Maelstrom, just in a lateral rather than longitudinal sense. Start firing away at one of the Drake's two 'joints' for long enough and you're going to have a ship that's completely without hull stability in short order. The Drake is a bad design. Quote: - Lack of internal volume in a hauler. Bad: Prowler. Good Fenrir Yes, although I couldn't care less what industrials and whatnot look like: all I see is a HUD target at about 60 km off and then an explosion. Quote: - Weapon systems that are positioned off the center of gravity. Bad Naglfar. Good Maelstrom (Amarr doesn't matter) How about the gun emplacements on the Rokh (the very top of the ship - I sense some oncoming spinning, although, God help me, I love that ship) or the Hyperion? I imagine the Hyperion skating back and forth as its guns push it both against the momentum of its engines and then rocket it forward with each successive volley. Bad, CPP. Bad! Quote: Plus, I agree that the Rifter is also just plain ugly. But can let it slide for two reasons: - I'm usually zoomed out enough to not really be looking at the ship and thus can ignore it's ugliness - It's the Rifter. It's general awesomeness earns it a pass There's no excuse for the Rifter's appearance. It looks like a trashed X-Wing with a water pistol strapped to the roof. If any ship absolutely begs for imbedded gun emplacements, it's the Rifter. Without them, it looks utterly ridiculous... although hardly the worst of the Minmatar designs. I feel like walking up to 90% of the Minmatar ships out there and hanging a giant "closed for renovations" sign on them before running off.
Magistrate Aribeth Gallente Taarakian Bellator Industries Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2010.04.02 23:44:00 - [62] Originally by: Seriously Bored Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth No gravity, no difference in direction regardless which engine is putting out more thrust. =P You still have center of mass to contend with...the vector of thrust matters a lot in space. The only thing the center of mass would do is cause the engines to work harder to push the ship forward. If the ship's mass is too great, the engines will have a harder time pushing it. If I remember correctly, the awkward placement of the engines on a ship in space won't cause any difference in direction. The only event that would cause this is if auxiliary thrusters were being used and interweb spaceshipz do not have these. =P Now, the awkward placement of an engine would cause less thrust to maximum velocity to the ship because it's not pushing right behind the general center of mass of the ship, so alot of that thrust is being displaced into nowhere(See first paragraph). In cases such as the Exequror, I think the placement of the engines with the little support from the extremities they're attatched to would cause the engine to rip itself from the hull because of said lack of support. Think of the Enterprise, with open flame thrusters. /watches Nacels take off like rockets
LonTas 5 Minmatar United Citizens of EVE	Posted - 2010.04.02 23:45:00 - [63] Your right, but the dominix is alrite. it just takes getting used to. AND THE SCORPION SHOULD BE DESTROYED! ITS A RANDOM PILE OF JUTTING SLANTS! 0.o LonTas 5
Magistrate Aribeth Gallente Taarakian Bellator Industries Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2010.04.03 01:25:00 - [64] Originally by: LonTas 5 Your right, but the dominix is alrite. it just takes getting used to. AND THE SCORPION SHOULD BE DESTROYED! ITS A RANDOM PILE OF JUTTING SLANTS! No way. Scorpion's going to look sexy as all hell in a month. xD
Abervest	Posted - 2010.04.03 02:51:00 - [65] Originally by: Shrike Arghast Quote: - Weapon systems that are positioned off the center of gravity. Bad Naglfar. Good Maelstrom (Amarr doesn't matter) How about the gun emplacements on the Rokh (the very top of the ship - I sense some oncoming spinning, although, God help me, I love that ship) or the Hyperion? I imagine the Hyperion skating back and forth as its guns push it both against the momentum of its engines and then rocket it forward with each successive volley. Bad, CPP. Bad! the weapons placement actually doesn't matter that much (other then for radians of tracking) As the Rail-gun system produces no recoil from firing. Only the minmatar weapons system has recoil that would affect the ships movement. Missiles and lasers similarly produce no recoil. (although missiles useage would effect the center of mass and agility of the ship as they were used up. (changing the mass of the vehicle as it moved))
Terianna Eri Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.04.03 07:00:00 - [66] Originally by: Abervest As the Rail-gun system produces no recoil from firing. Beg pardon? ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Headerman	Posted - 2010.04.03 11:15:00 - [67] Originally by: Abervest As the Rail-gun system produces no recoil from firing. Only the minmatar weapons system has recoil that would affect the ships movement. Missiles and lasers similarly produce no recoil. (although missiles useage would effect the center of mass and agility of the ship as they were used up. (changing the mass of the vehicle as it moved)) ... WTF? This is an ODE TO UGLY SHIPS! Who gives a crap about bloody gun recoil??? Now for my Ode... Ode to Charon. Oh Charon, how thee acts as a speed limiter, Your ability to mimmic a speed hump is infinite. And why does thee need a planet sized turning circle, for eventually, eventually, through space, do thee hurtle.
Campuschris	Posted - 2010.04.05 00:48:00 - [68] Edited by: Campuschris on 05/04/2010 00:49:57 Edited by: Campuschris on 05/04/2010 00:48:54 Some of the ships in game you can see that the idea for their design came from real world items (some more obviously than others). For example, take a look at the Dominix sideways. Now, in your head, flip it upside down. Pretty awesome design for a hiking boot isn't it? Seriously, someone must have taken a shoe and put it upside down on their desk and used it as a model. The rupture, honestly, looks like a small power drill or glue gun. If you put your hand up to it, you can see where the handle and triggers are. The Nightmare is a bow. The bestower and sigil are slugs The thorax, from a direct top-down view, is male genitalia (I imagine this one was not intended...) The prophecy looks like someone over-fed a duckling and now it is trying to fly The Brutix is the elephant man's head... with wings. >_> I'm sure there are others but I don't see them right now. For side viewing purposes Ship Pictures From Side
Alice Celadon	Posted - 2010.04.05 09:06:00 - [69] Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth Edited by: Magistrate Aribeth on 02/04/2010 23:46:22 Originally by: Seriously Bored Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth No gravity, no difference in direction regardless which engine is putting out more thrust. =P You still have center of mass to contend with...the vector of thrust matters a lot in space. The only thing the center of mass would do is cause the engines to work harder to push the ship forward. If the ship's mass is too great, the engines will have a harder time pushing it. If I remember correctly, the awkward placement of the engines on a ship in space won't cause any difference in direction. The only event that would cause this is if auxiliary thrusters were being used and interweb spaceshipz do not have these. =P Now, the awkward placement of an engine would cause less thrust to maximum velocity to the ship because it's not pushing right behind the general center of mass of the ship, so alot of that thrust is being displaced into nowhere(See first paragraph). In cases such as the Exequror, I think the placement of the engines with the little support from the extremities they're attatched to would cause the engine to rip itself from the hull because of said lack of support. Think of the Enterprise, with open flame thrusters. /watches Nacels take off like rockets The Hyperion, on the other hand, is the only ship I would concider logical as far as engines go. Center of mass is where the engine ports are at. Greater stopping power and greater acceleration. :P
Jotobar	Posted - 2010.04.05 12:06:00 - [70] The onyx which is essentialy a black/red moa looks mean, probably top 3 of all ships ingame on my list. That it's a tough cookie to crack and help ruin everyones day (from pods to titans to friendlies) helps I supose.

Syn Callibri Minmatar Dread Wings	Posted - 2010.04.05 16:12:00 - [71] The Hoarder looks like a flying turd. ftw!
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.05 17:45:00 - [72] Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth The only thing the center of mass would do is cause the engines to work harder to push the ship forward. If the ship's mass is too great, the engines will have a harder time pushing it. If I remember correctly, the awkward placement of the engines on a ship in space won't cause any difference in direction. The only event that would cause this is if auxiliary thrusters were being used and interweb spaceshipz do not have these. =P Eah, not quite. If you accelerate something forward from behind and left of the center of mass, it rotates right. If you accelerate it forward from behind and right of the center of mass, it rotates left. If you're accelerating something from directly behind the center of mass, and change the angle of thrust even slightly, it starts going in different directions. This works in water, air, and space, with space just offering less drag and lower gravity to contend with, and the inability to use fluid or gas dynamics to steer. The auxilary thrusters you're thinking of are just a very efficient way of changing a ship's direction, not the only way. And unfortunately, most the ships in EVE would end up flying in circles of varying sizes. Oh well. I play it for the awesome pew pew, not the realism.
Rachel Darkstar	Posted - 2010.04.05 19:12:00 - [73] Originally by: Magistrate Aribeth Edited by: Magistrate Aribeth on 31/03/2010 04:03:07 Edited by: Magistrate Aribeth on 31/03/2010 03:01:34 Frigates: 1: Bantam... 2: Magikarp-- I mean Navitas... 3: All Minmatar Frigates... 4: Imicus... 5: Tormentor... Cruisers: 1: Rupture... 2: Vexor... 3: Moa... 4: Maller... 5: Bellicose Battlecruisers: 1: Cyclone... Battleships: 1: Typhoon... 2: Dominix... 3: Rokh... 4: Apocalypse... Capitals: 1: All Minmatar Capitals including Industrial Now I have to take issue with some of these. First of all. The Bellicose. It's not a good ship but it's pretty. One of the nicer designs they came up with in my opinion. And I also like the rifter and the reaper. The maller also isn't that bad just like the cyclone The really bad ones are the Thyphoon(good ship but boring to look at) The rupture (a shrimp with hemorrhoids) And the stabber is boring as hell too. Wouldn't touch a rokh it's almost as bad as the phoon.What a waste. And the moa...(what's the front of that thing?)
Potrero Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.04.07 01:39:00 - [74] What are the chances we can get CCP to look at some of these models? They're looking at the scorpion after all. Why not the Moa...
Tobias Xiaosen Gallente TX Holdings Company	Posted - 2010.04.07 02:01:00 - [75] Edited by: Tobias Xiaosen on 07/04/2010 02:01:23 Personally I actually like the Domi. It reminds me of old three masted sailing warships, not sure why. Pic I love almost all of the Amarr ship designs, hate almost all of the Caldari and Minmatar desgins, and love/hate Gallente in equal measures --- My sig got nerfed so I need a new one
Zephna	Posted - 2010.04.07 05:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Silent Knight 1st was that there are two designers for all Caldari ships. One for the left half, one for the right. These two designers are never allowed to meet & discuss ideas. my buddy rivyn has had that on his profile for a very long time, some 5 plus years, he never said if he heard it or made it up tho. Originally by: Davanev Hraldirsson The Rifter is an ugly, stupid looking, x wing wannabee. I have no idea why people get so obsessional about it. The autocannon placement on the roof makes it look like a starfighter from cartoon designed for 7 year olds. i always thought it looked like a pod racer personally, and a gun on what would be the useless ****pit window is called; efficient gun placement for maximum capacity. im gunna go ahead and call the moa the ugliest thing to fly the stars, and as far as the rupture i remember how ecstatic i was when i got it first starting out and staring at it in awe, still think its the most badass looking ship.
Rusty Havoc	Posted - 2010.04.07 16:38:00 - [77] huh.. an ugly ship thread with not a single mention of the Aeon...
Sargon Dent	Posted - 2010.04.08 12:35:00 - [78] Badger. It's a industrial I know, but still. It looks like a slapped together piece of corrugated aluminum siding. Definitely has a very long turd thing going on. What really sets it off is the little tiny front and rears.
Tightass Trixie	Posted - 2010.04.08 14:19:00 - [79] Originally by: Sperrzone Oneiros / Exequror are prolly the ugliest ships I mean, how the hell is it even able to fly straight in any direction without flying circles all the time the exequror looks like a 3-balled dildo. seriously! take a look at the pleasure-bump on that crotch rocket!
Syn Callibri Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2010.04.08 15:13:00 - [80] Originally by: Tightass Trixie Originally by: Sperrzone Oneiros / Exequror are prolly the ugliest ships I mean, how the hell is it even able to fly straight in any direction without flying circles all the time the exequror looks like a 3-balled dildo. seriously! take a look at the pleasure-bump on that crotch rocket! ROFLMAO...wipes tears from eyes...OMG, I never noticed that before!

Anabella Rella Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.04.08 17:27:00 - [81] How did the Celestis not make this list? It's even weirder looking than the Moa! When I first saw one it reminded me of some kind of sea monster. Hands down the worst looking ship in Eve, IMO. PS leave the Rifter, Rupture, Typhoon and Tempest alone. They're iconic dammit! They remind me of pirate or smuggler ships (well, not the 'Phoon so much). Hey, remember the Millennium Falcon wasn't beautiful either, but it rocked, much like the above Matari ships!
Aamrr	Posted - 2010.04.09 07:06:00 - [82] Nightmare. Definitely nightmare. Dear gods, that ship is an assault on the eyes. ...and I wouldn't want it any other way.
KustoMKilleR Random Jedi Industries	Posted - 2010.04.09 07:46:00 - [83] Originally by: Dimitrios Ypsilanti Bad Naglfar BLASPHEMY!!... it doesnt need to obey the laws of physics god-dammit, its.. V E R T I C A L !
SurrenderMonkey	Posted - 2010.04.09 14:13:00 - [84] Quote: the weapons placement actually doesn't matter that much (other then for radians of tracking) As the Rail-gun system produces no recoil from firing. Unless you're referring to some obscure RP aspect of Eve, this is wrong. Railguns most definitely have recoil. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp
KustoMKilleR Random Jedi Industries The Council.	Posted - 2010.04.10 03:30:00 - [85] i think people have forgotten that Eve is a G A M E. who gives a flying frak if the ships wouldnt work in the real world. they dont have to. we are focusing on LOOKS here. What?....You Expected a Quality Post?? --------------
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2010.04.10 03:39:00 - [86] I have uber skilz for both Hyperion and Brutix but meh, they are so ugly. Megathron is sexy depending on the angle... the front legs and kinda over sized really. Myrmidon is uber sexy, but they shoot down mah drones. Now training for Harbinger ftw. Prophecy is uber sexy too, even tho it does look like an angry chicken.
Don Pellegrino The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.04.10 20:37:00 - [87] Railguns used to have an AWESOME recoil effect, but it disappeared in Apocrypha, along with the amazing cyno effect.
Raetherana	Posted - 2010.05.05 20:57:00 - [88] Ugliest ships EVER! Hel Avatar Abaddon Megathron Rokh Nightmare Bhaalgorn Widow EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Party Scout	Posted - 2010.05.05 23:39:00 - [89] Dominix. I mean, come on! I want a ship that looks like a ship, not a shoe :(
Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.05.06 00:21:00 - [90] Edited by: Teinyhr on 06/05/2010 00:21:38 Originally by: Raetherana Ugliest ships EVER! Hel Avatar Abaddon Megathron Rokh Nightmare Bhaalgorn Widow EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW Didn't think it possible but you just broke my trolldar. I demand 50 million isk as compensation. ------------------- This is Sig. Launch every Sig. For Great Justice.



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