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Daisuke Aoki Gallente The Eloria Corporation OMEGA.	Posted - 2010.04.01 17:34:00 - [1] Forgive me for being a noob and not closely following the politics surrounding all of this, but can anyone lay out just a few facts about what's supposedly going on with this big war? - Who's it between? Which alliances are on either side? Which side is the aggressor? - Where's it happening, mainly? - What caused the war, and what's the aggressor's objective? Yeah, I know, this has probably been discussed ad nauseam and I probably should go through all the old threads and find my own answer, but I'm confused and a bit lazy so I figured I'd ask instead.
Yakoff Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.04.01 17:45:00 - [2] Basically, here is everything that has happened up until now. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it. ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef.
UVPhoenix2 Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Iron Heart Brotherhood	Posted - 2010.04.01 17:53:00 - [3] Originally by: Yakoff Basically, here is everything that has happened up until now. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it. SAND PEOPLE I know how you feel. Material of this nature affect us all in different ways. What you need to do is learn from this. And this is just my sig.
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:01:00 - [4] basically it boils down to the SC and BoB (IT) not liking the NC, combined with a giant bandwagon mentality so they're going to go up and raeptrain the NC, or at least that's the plan. what will actually happen is daily node crashes for 6 months till everyone's bored and no real change in the major players, some pet's on both sides will likely die of boredom or starve to death trying to maintain a war footing without the income of the major alliances to support their pilots. I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
Daisuke Aoki Gallente The Eloria Corporation OMEGA.	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:02:00 - [5] Originally by: Cybarite basically it boils down to the SC and BoB (IT) not liking the NC, combined with a giant bandwagon mentality so they're going to go up and raeptrain the NC, or at least that's the plan. what will actually happen is daily node crashes for 6 months till everyone's bored and no real change in the major players, some pet's on both sides will likely die of boredom or starve to death trying to maintain a war footing without the income of the major alliances to support their pilots. Alright. So who exactly is the SC? I have a good idea of who the NC is.
Anaise d'Flaumond Gallente Phoenix Consortium On the Rocks	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:19:00 - [6] The SC is basically alot of the guys I imagine your alliance are blue with. Major SC players are IT, Atlas, AAA along with other alliances. The SC want to break up the NC, but the NC are Best Freinds Forever, so we will see :).
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:43:00 - [7] Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. So now these alliances in the south and IT are on the war path. PL fell to IT forces like a paper tiger, goonswarm an hero'd themselves and now the only ones left of the great coalition is the NC. It's their time to die. This is the last chapter of the second great war and it's gonna be a good one. MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
BlueMajere Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:47:00 - [8] Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. So now these alliances in the south and IT are on the war path. PL fell to IT forces like a paper tiger, goonswarm an hero'd themselves and now the only ones left of the great coalition is the NC. It's their time to die. This is the last chapter of the second great war and it's gonna be a good one. a sober dasty post wat dis
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.01 18:59:00 - [9] iPhone from work bro. I should probably be fixing things instead of forum surfing and workin on my motorcycle but my boss ain't in so screw it MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
CBBOMBERMAN Gallente Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:12:00 - [10] Edited by: CBBOMBERMAN on 01/04/2010 19:15:08 Edited by: CBBOMBERMAN on 01/04/2010 19:13:20 Originally by: Daisuke Aoki Forgive me for being a noob and not closely following the politics surrounding all of this, but can anyone lay out just a few facts about what's supposedly going on with this big war? - Who's it between? Which alliances are on either side? Which side is the aggressor? - Where's it happening, mainly? - What caused the war, and what's the aggressor's objective? Yeah, I know, this has probably been discussed ad nauseam and I probably should go through all the old threads and find my own answer, but I'm confused and a bit lazy so I figured I'd ask instead. Back in time. Basically the North Colition (NC) allies to one of the largest most detested pirate alliance in many cases also known as Goonswarm. Goonswarm had previously won a major war that involved another major alliance then called Band of Brothers (BOB) (known now as IT alliance). Note the current BOB is no longer part of IT alliance cos the name was stolen by goonswarm later(another long story). Goonswarm won the war in a very drastic and many would say stupid/unfair way. Since then IT alliance sworn to take revange against goonswarm and their allies. The big irony in this that Goonswarm a few months ago lost the war versus IT alliance also in a very dramatic/stupid/unfair some would say way. Karma is karma! Now that goonswarm is not that strong, they have decided to turn their attention to the NC in revenge for assisting in many battles to goonswarm. There are a few gaps here and there as the story is too long and confusing but that is it. So now the most of the south going to war with most of the north cos most of the south are alllied and most of the north is allied cos they also were hot dropped in the past by goonswarm and the NC. So there you go. So really is about payback and humiliation now. Never say that ppl dont take very seriously this game!
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:15:00 - [11] Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition **ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. So now these alliances in the south and IT are on the war path. PL fell to IT forces like a paper tiger, goonswarm an hero'd themselves and now the only ones left of the great coalition is the NC. It's their time to die. This is the last chapter of the second great war and it's gonna be a good one. you know in two or three years we're going to be having the exact same conversation about how IT **ed off too many people by trying to control 0.0 and that's why there's 80,000 pilots in their space, which is ironic because that's exactly how BoB managed to provoke the first great war. IT's like you people never learn or something... I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
Krikx Gallente Forgotten Gods Fear Th3 Vampires	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:15:00 - [12] Originally by: dastommy79 iPhone from work bro. I should probably be fixing things instead of forum surfing and workin on my motorcycle but my boss ain't in so screw it You wrote all of that from an iPhone? Good god that had to be painful. I don't even send more then 2 sentences in emails from mine.
CBBOMBERMAN Gallente Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.04.01 19:46:00 - [13] Edited by: CBBOMBERMAN on 01/04/2010 19:47:14 Originally by: Cybarite Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition **ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. So now these alliances in the south and IT are on the war path. PL fell to IT forces like a paper tiger, goonswarm an hero'd themselves and now the only ones left of the great coalition is the NC. It's their time to die. This is the last chapter of the second great war and it's gonna be a good one. you know in two or three years we're going to be having the exact same conversation about how IT **ed off too many people by trying to control 0.0 and that's why there's 80,000 pilots in their space, which is ironic because that's exactly how BoB managed to provoke the first great war. IT's like you people never learn or something... Actually. The story goes even longer than that. Long before. The rivalry between BOB and GOONSWARM has existed pritty much since the time of LOTKA VOLTERRA. Its a really a case of staking events. I think the year would have been around 2005 back when Lotka was in war with Goons. Some of the corps in Lotka are in IT now so, the drama between these too is probably the longest and biggest in number in the whole of eve.
Vuk Lau Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.04.01 20:03:00 - [14] Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. ROFLfackingMAO If u truly believe in this then you need serious reality check. If this is just plain propaganda then 2/10 for trolling.
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.01 20:06:00 - [15] ok so there's alot of partial or outright wrong stuff in this thread (misinformation on my CAOD? NOWAI!) I'll try to list out what I know as the salient points of the conflict, which goes back roughly four years now. some guy died IRL goons made some predictably bad jokes about said dead guy Sir Molle went all whit knight and declared GOONS SHALL BE REMOVED FROM 0.0, THERE ARE NO GOONS BoB along with ASCN and elements of the NC proceeded to gangbang goons who were mostly in frigates at the time, and kicked them out of sydicate. Goons formed a coalition with RA who didn't really like anyone else at the time, and were joined by TCF to form the RedSwarm Federation in opposition to the original southern coalition led by Lokta Voltera The Redswarm made mutual deffense pacts with the NC seeing as both were wary of BoB and it's massive empire (at the time controlling most of what's now held by AAA, ROL, Stainwagon and IT) and felt that they would have to be dealt with. BoB moved to support LV who were being overrun by the French Russians and Goons. Defense pacts went into effect, as bob joined conflict with RSF, the NC invaded querious and delve. BoB withdraws to defend it's turf and LV falls Bob's advantage in Titans allows it to hold back the RSF advance for a time, however the first titan nerf results in molle's titan being killed and the opening of RSF's advance accross the south. BoB's pet/employees Mercenary Coalition WTFPWN the NC, D2 the orriginal main power in the north disbands, however the pets installed in the conquered territory were no match for the northern residents and fell soon after MC was recalled to fight in the south, the current NC (mostly) reclaimed the north. (next two might be mixed up) AAA up until this point fighting alongside the NC and RSF switches sides, and takes out IAC. MC get's fed up fighing battle after battle for BoB, possibly smarting from their first titan loss, and decides to form a coalition with other merc groups called Tortuga, Tortuga however is short lived as it has no allies and ends up fighting BoB alone. Bob is reduced to holding Fountain, Delve and Querious. The RSF holds most of it's former territory. Months of stalemate ensue as the NC and RSF fail to crack BoB's core territory. A disgruntled BoB director Disbands BoB removing many of their defensive advantages. Goons abandon all space in a mad rush for Delve. BoB's second incarnation, Kenzoku, eventually gives up on retaking Delve and disbands. Months pass, the coalition becomes somewhat fractured. IT appears in Syndicate made up of orriginal bob corps and a lot of their pets and begins attacking PL holdings in lowsec and 0.0 IT successfully kicks PL and pets out of fountain. IT SC and Stainwagon prepare to assault goon holdings. Goons Explode without anyone apparently doing anything. IT moves back into Delve. IT starts preparing for war in the north. That isn't everything, there were lot's of brush wars and independant entities stepped on in the process, but what's there is pretty much what the people actually fighting this war are going to care about. I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
CBBOMBERMAN Gallente Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.04.01 20:20:00 - [16] Quote: That isn't everything, there were lot's of brush wars and independant entities stepped on in the process, but what's there is pretty much what the people actually fighting this war are going to care about. Yeah, there is far too many facts and events that lead to this. But basically its really about revenge for stoping/preventing/delaying the death/destruction of another alliance. And and opportunity to pew pew ofcource
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.01 20:57:00 - [17] Originally by: CBBOMBERMAN Quote: That isn't everything, there were lot's of brush wars and independant entities stepped on in the process, but what's there is pretty much what the people actually fighting this war are going to care about. Yeah, there is far too many facts and events that lead to this. But basically its really about revenge for stoping/preventing/delaying the death/destruction of another alliance. And and opportunity to pew pew ofcource There's also of course the blob mentality. You can see it in Dast's post, the coalition controlled space, you can almost feel the butthurt resonating from Atlas's removal from the drone regions at the hands of the goons. Truth is BoB created the coalition by doing exactly what dast is accusing the coalition of, and even more ironically exactly what the southern coalition is doing now. One group gets stronger than all the others, all the others Blob up and remove the threat, in so doing the new blob becomes the target. IMO we need CCP to cut max jump range for caps down to like a lightyear so it's not so easy to make war on people too far away. I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
1rospector1 Caldari Umbrella Group G-R-I-E-V-A-N-C-E	Posted - 2010.04.01 21:01:00 - [18] Originally by: AssMuncher BOB Pets News: -A- reportedly have NO ORDERS to move up North. ATLAS rep'dly has only a smattering of ships up here and no Titans, forces in OBE. SYS-K: No titans moved North. ROL: Titans moved way south. Atlas morale: "buddy in atlas said that their morale is in the ****ter right now cause half dont wanna help it and be considered an IT pet"
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.01 21:17:00 - [19] Edited by: dastommy79 on 01/04/2010 21:18:03 Its a circle. Someone ****es off someone else and it repeats itself again. This time its the NC's turn to burn. Also goons didnt kick atlas out of dronelands, the russians did. As for the butt hurt thing, will see whos hurts the most when we are done with you. EDIT: also confirming everything they guy above me said MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.01 21:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. ROFLfackingMAO If u truly believe in this then you need serious reality check. If this is just plain propaganda then 2/10 for trolling. Wow. I dont think you ever stopped to look at the big picture of things happening over the last couple years. I feel sorry for you and your pathetic attempt at being funny. MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
Cybarite Gallente YARRRDIES Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.01 21:24:00 - [21] Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. ROFLfackingMAO If u truly believe in this then you need serious reality check. If this is just plain propaganda then 2/10 for trolling. Wow. I dont think you ever stopped to look at the big picture of things happening over the last couple years. I feel sorry for you and your pathetic attempt at being funny. in all fairness your language is pretty self serving and you left out a lot of stuff that doesn't directly support your position (and lends a lot of support to other people's), it's hardly surprising that you're being called for propaganda. I love seeing ships explode and knowing that someone somewhere is screaming at their computer
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:00:00 - [22] Yes i gave my side to the story. Everyone has different interpretations to events. He posted utter garbage and didnt defend his facts or give any. So if you want the truth, listen to the people bothering to type it out. If you want pubbie garbage, then look at pathetic posters like that guy. MODS I LEFT CORP FOR 2 DAYS NO BAN ME
Yakov Draken Minmatar Tides Of War	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:14:00 - [23] Edited by: Yakov Draken on 01/04/2010 22:17:45 In the beginning 0.0 was full of freshed faced youths, witty and beautiful, who danced together amongst the stars and had :fun:. Then over the years :bitterness: crept in and the universe became a darker place. Where once enemies congo'd together in moments of interstellar :harmony: and :love: there came instead the time of :spies: and :hatred:. Now the universe is a sad place full of bitter vets. They come to COAD to unload their bowels and spew forth streams of incoherent rage all the time patting each other on their back for being witty - "hi5 bro you really showed them." All they know is their rage and their desperate need for vengeance!
SpongeSlog Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Yakoff Basically, here is everything that has happened up until now. First the earth cooled. And then the dinosaurs came, but they got too big and fat, so they all died and they turned into oil. And then the Arabs came and they bought Mercedes Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di's clothes. I couldn't believe it. I love this movie.
Vasili Z Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:26:00 - [25] You know what confuses me, hairy-bald men, they're like a paradox. ------- Going to kill you in Dust 514 (wait a minute, micro-transactions are dumb)
CBBOMBERMAN Gallente Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.04.01 22:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Cybarite Originally by: dastommy79 Originally by: Vuk Lau Originally by: dastommy79 Well with the past war of the coalition vs bob, 3/4 of 0.0 space holders joined together to defeat them. They called themselves the coalition. This war lasted for years with both sides making gains and taking defeats. Eventualy the coalition won but their victory came at a price. During the war, the coalition ****ed on and made many enemys. They basicly controlled who could and couldn't live in 0.0 since no one of the independent groups could match their numbers. Finaly these independent groups had had enough of it and joined bob in it's efforts. Most of the alliances you see on the map of the south were activly shooting each other and living in npc space/low sec. These alliances while smaller have on average more experienced and better quality pilots. Together they were now a big enough threat to the coalition. You see the biggest mistake the coalition made was thinking and focusing on bob being the biggest threat to them when infact the coalitions arrogance and treatment of neutral partys is it's death nail. While they focused on bob, these smaller groups were able to grow and get stronger. ROFLfackingMAO If u truly believe in this then you need serious reality check. If this is just plain propaganda then 2/10 for trolling. Wow. I dont think you ever stopped to look at the big picture of things happening over the last couple years. I feel sorry for you and your pathetic attempt at being funny. in all fairness your language is pretty self serving and you left out a lot of stuff that doesn't directly support your position (and lends a lot of support to other people's), it's hardly surprising that you're being called for propaganda. Its funny you said that. The same thing past through my head. Then i was like...nagh my words are too pure to waist it on his bs story....
Entaran Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.04.02 04:04:00 - [27] Real Story: SC ****ed off at CCP hax of r64's making technetium the must-have moon. Most technetium moons are in the north. Invade north for tech. It's all about the oil boys and girls. TRUE STORY
Receg Caldari South of the Border Hand That Feeds	Posted - 2010.04.02 06:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Entaran Real Story: SC ****ed off at CCP hax of r64's making technetium the must-have moon. Most technetium moons are in the north. Invade north for tech. It's all about the oil boys and girls. TRUE STORY This. ----- We all have a photographic memory, it's just some of us don't have film.
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.04.02 08:55:00 - [29] Originally by: dastommy79 Yes i gave my side to the story. Everyone has different interpretations to events. He posted utter garbage and didnt defend his facts or give any. So if you want the truth, listen to the people bothering to type it out. If you want pubbie garbage, then look at pathetic posters like that guy. Actually your...postings, if you want to call them that, are so distorted I just looked up your corp history, figuring that you must have been ex-insurgency. Generally only they are able to hold delusions of this nature (see bitter dog). Was surprised to not see any relation. Am now wondering where it comes from. Perhaps when atlas was tri pets in vale did Imperian steal your carrier? I recall he stole 2-3 of them during that time. That might make some kind of sense I suppose. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Adida
NAFnist Caldari NAF	Posted - 2010.04.02 10:12:00 - [30] THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CONFLICT -> Everyone in the south was finally on eachothers blue-list, something the North have found themselves awhile (long while) so basically the conflict boils down to fighting the nearest enemy on the map

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