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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:18:00 -
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A top-level security meeting in Renyn. Instability in Caldari Funds Unlimited and the other corporations. Something rotten is afoot in the State of Caldari. How will Executor Tibus Heth respond?
"Chasing Shadows" is a new EVE Chronicle written by CCP Gnauton.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.06 16:27:00 -
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Rawr! 
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Kain Hakonen
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kain Hakonen on 06/04/2010 17:08:43 I think EVE's lore team is going back to the basics, and I'm incredibly thankful for it. Good chron, and can we have more detailed infodumps ala. Caldari Funds Unlimited, too?
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:26:00 -
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Very nice chronicle.
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Anslo
The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.06 17:39:00 -
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[Insert Roden/Caldari conspiracy here]
/tinfoilhat
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Kai Lomu
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Posted - 2010.04.06 18:13:00 -
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Mr. Heth needs to find a Caldari Machiavelli
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Not just
ELEMENTUM.
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Posted - 2010.04.06 21:42:00 -
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can someone tell me - is it YC112 now in EVE? ______ tested on humans ¬
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.06 22:01:00 -
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so will this hav eany ingame impacts Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |

Katrina Bekers
Gallente Science and Mine Bears
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Posted - 2010.04.06 22:21:00 -
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Conspiracy between the two top brass?
I'd like to think that northern empire warfare took another twist.
From the battlefields (battleskies?) to the subtlety of assault economics and intelligence/counterintelligence treason. The kind of shift in fight focus I'd expect from Roden: if you can't beat them with raw firepower (as Foiritan tried to), unbolt their hulls while they aren't watching... --- Kat |

Azura Noctis
Amarr SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.04.07 00:16:00 -
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Let's see if this will play out as intended or backfire on all parties involved. :)
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Minmatar The Causality
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Posted - 2010.04.07 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Not just can someone tell me - is it YC112 now in EVE?
Yes, it is.
Nice story. It portrays very well Heth's limitations. I suspect he hasn't heard from the person who put him in power (the Broker) for some time. And as as far as I can tell from the fiction centred on him Tibus Heth is not a very subtle person.
Roden, on the other hand, is a veteran of Gallente and wider cluster corporate conflict. I know who my money would be on. Regards,
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Brendana Fortescue
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Posted - 2010.04.07 00:23:00 -
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The stories starts to get apart more and more.
In one Heth is about to clean out the system and in another he misses obvious things. Caldari accessed insane ammount of wealth from ocupping gallente systems and then they magicaly loose it only couse Intaki Prime is occupied again by gallente?
I understand that each story favours some race to keep interest of players for theirs race lore but not for the sake of breaking continuity.
If caldari regime is corrupt and Heth didnt made any changes at all and all goes down it should be explored and not just that other story brings different results. |

Savasaan Todaro
Caldari Black Lotus Heavy Industries Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2010.04.07 01:00:00 -
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I'm not quite sure about what the Chronicle means even though I read it a couple times. Does it mean that the Caldari and Gallente are going to go into an all out war again? Can someone explain please?
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Rahaer
Minmatar Order of Celestial Knights
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Posted - 2010.04.07 01:54:00 -
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Good read. Sounds like another all-out war is about to occur 
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Crying Reaper
Gallente Tiny Fleet
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Posted - 2010.04.07 02:55:00 -
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Hmmm all out war makes me hope the Amarr join in on the "beat the Gallente up" effort. Well guess it will be time for me to polish up my Apoc and get her in running order. Don't want to be caught off guard with dull unshiny armor plates after all. Really all I want to see is massive fleet of Caldari and Gallente navies slugging it out. Prefferably NPC fleets, massive NPC fleets.
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Val Erian
Gallente Azure Horizon Federate Militia
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Posted - 2010.04.07 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Brendana Fortescue
Caldari accessed insane ammount of wealth from ocupping gallente systems and then they magicaly loose it only couse Intaki Prime is occupied again by gallente?
The way I understood it Caldari megacorps borrowed immennse amount to exploit resources on gallente low sec worlds......they never got to much gains as not only Intaki prime but 41 other systems were retaken by gallente.
Whether this is the only casue of recent financial turmoil I dont know. It seems that Roden is causing problems or trying to give the impression that he is to have Heth overreact and cause interal discord amoungst Provists and megacorps.
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Kel Kun
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Posted - 2010.04.07 05:25:00 -
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Another step foward the reunion of all races I say.
Excellent staging Awesome choice of words Wonderful expressions
I'll read it backwards^^
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Crazey Monkey
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Posted - 2010.04.07 05:33:00 -
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Its a bad day to be Calardi and a good day to be Gallente.
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Jon Engel
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.04.07 06:07:00 -
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Mr Roden has a scheme to make the Caldari **** up. Roden knows corporate powerplay. If the Caldari ever had a Federation president to worry about it would be Roden, as he knows how the Caldari State leadership thinks and can play them like a fiddle.
I think this is where it is leading. The Federation has a President who knows how to hit the Caldari State where it matters most. That being the Megacorporations themselves.
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Griffolion
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:56:00 -
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The man on the other side of the room in Tibus Heths meeting is the Broker who is obviously playing both sides. Roden is going to use the instability to his advantage, maybe to secure his presidency. Caldari seems to have had its time.
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Kain Hakonen
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.04.07 13:06:00 -
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Edited by: Kain Hakonen on 07/04/2010 13:16:03
Originally by: Griffolion The man on the other side of the room in Tibus Heths meeting is the Broker who is obviously playing both sides. Roden is going to use the instability to his advantage, maybe to secure his presidency. Caldari seems to have had its time.
Wasn't the Broker out of clones and out of luck by the end of Empyrean Age? I think it's just Heth's advisor.
P.S. Everything Gnauton touches turns to gold, more chrons from him and the lesser-known CCP writers pl0x.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.07 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Val Erian
Originally by: Brendana Fortescue
Caldari accessed insane ammount of wealth from ocupping gallente systems and then they magicaly loose it only couse Intaki Prime is occupied again by gallente?
The way I understood it Caldari megacorps borrowed immennse amount to exploit resources on gallente low sec worlds......they never got to much gains as not only Intaki prime but 41 other systems were retaken by gallente.
Whether this is the only casue of recent financial turmoil I dont know. It seems that Roden is causing problems or trying to give the impression that he is to have Heth overreact and cause interal discord amoungst Provists and megacorps.
It is a major cause of it. Add to this the Caldari-Amarr Economic Agreement, where the State's independent banks owe the Empire money and you have a situation requiring careful handling by the most skilled and experienced executives.
Heth is actively working to remove these very people from positions of authority and action. Blaming mistakes he forced on the State on others.
Originally by: Jon Engel Mr Roden has a scheme to make the Caldari **** up. Roden knows corporate powerplay. If the Caldari ever had a Federation president to worry about it would be Roden, as he knows how the Caldari State leadership thinks and can play them like a fiddle.
I think this is where it is leading. The Federation has a President who knows how to hit the Caldari State where it matters most. That being the Megacorporations themselves.
Roden & the Federation could do nothing and Heth would likely be getting paranoid of all those with actual skill and the position to use it. This is Stalin purging the upper ranks of the Soviet Union to remove generals and managers with talent, charisma, and resources to become an internal rival.
In my view the current storyline leads one of two places:
1) Heth continues to consolidate power in the State. The sovereign powers of the megacorporation's are trampled upon. The story establishes the State as the Neo-Facist regime so many believe it to be. This helps to cement a Red vs Blue conflict between the Federation & State, Democracy vs Fascism, WWII.
2) Heth attempts to consolidate power and the backlash from the other megacorporations is wide reaching. Even the two other patriot megas work to isolate Heth & KK as Heth attempts to dictate the megas' operations, policies, etc. A civil war occurs in which Heth is removed from power and KK's overall power is severely reduced. The State's megacorporations continue to in fight, while the broken Patriots continue to fight the Fed in Black Rise.
I am personally a fan of option #2. Heth failing.
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.04.07 14:45:00 -
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This probably explains why all the T2 Roden ships got missile launchers. 
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.07 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Arnulf Ogunkoya
Originally by: Not just can someone tell me - is it YC112 now in EVE?
Yes, it is.
Nice story. It portrays very well Heth's limitations. I suspect he hasn't heard from the person who put him in power (the Broker) for some time. And as as far as I can tell from the fiction centred on him Tibus Heth is not a very subtle person.
Roden, on the other hand, is a veteran of Gallente and wider cluster corporate conflict. I know who my money would be on.
**POSSIBLE EMPYREAN AGE SPOILER**
I read the Empyrean Age novel and suspected that the broker was the Jove who died at the end of the novel?
...so no, I don't think Heth's heard from the Broker for a while 
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Motriek
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Posted - 2010.04.07 16:31:00 -
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Sorry, I don't think this is what all the "buff gallente" threads were asking for. ;)
Excellent piece.
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Imran
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.07 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lt Forge This probably explains why all the T2 Roden ships got missile launchers. 
This actually made me lol :).
Very good chronicle as usual, love the shadow power play. I think I am beginning to like this new galente leadership.
Anybody know what is going on with Blaque?
__________________________________________ EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries United Star Federation
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Posted - 2010.04.07 18:44:00 -
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First, it was the Corporation profile on the main page.
second, There was a scope article about economic turbulence on the horizon.
Third, there is a chronicle on economic instability.
I do believe that president Roden is going for the economic victory instead of a direct military victory! Sly bastard!
Now the question remains whether the empress will bail the caldari out once again? Judging from the friendly correspondence between her and Roden, I don't think she will! ROFL
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KoffeeKup
Caldari Kitteh Roboto
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Posted - 2010.04.07 19:49:00 -
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I'm noticing that many people are thinking Heth will fail and Roden will be the ultimate ass kicker or what ever, but what im wondering is if Heth gets kicked to the curb, who will take his place? I'm guessing that something big is going to happen and it won't go out quietly. While I don't think that the Ammar Empress will tried to step on Roden's plans against the Caldari, i don't think she will sit aside and completely abandon the Caldari.
I'm thinking that Tyrannis is not going to just be about the players owning planets. Judging by the fact that the scorpion is getting remodeled I'm wondering if it will be because of a large shift in power in the Caldari state instead of just pretending that the scorpion never changed.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.08 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: KoffeeKup I'm noticing that many people are thinking Heth will fail and Roden will be the ultimate ass kicker or what ever, but what im wondering is if Heth gets kicked to the curb, who will take his place?
No one and that is the point. Even the national level leadership of the State used to be an entity - the CEP - not an individual (no President, no Emperor, no Prime Minister). It was a council of representatives from Eight very powerful corporations all with their own agendas. Only when those agendas aligned did the State as a whole act.
Two years ago this was partially replaced in the PF with the position of "Executor" - held and created by Tibus Heth. One man was given the reins of power in a system that was not designed for it.
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Lord Zekk
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.08 15:23:00 -
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Eve lore is something I am fascinated by and do my best to keep up with. From what I have read so far this seems to be one of the best chronicles I have read and most of them are excellent which says a lot. ----------------------------------------
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Jon Engel
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2010.04.08 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dex Nederland
Originally by: Val Erian
Originally by: Brendana Fortescue
Caldari accessed insane ammount of wealth from ocupping gallente systems and then they magicaly loose it only couse Intaki Prime is occupied again by gallente?
The way I understood it Caldari megacorps borrowed immennse amount to exploit resources on gallente low sec worlds......they never got to much gains as not only Intaki prime but 41 other systems were retaken by gallente.
Whether this is the only casue of recent financial turmoil I dont know. It seems that Roden is causing problems or trying to give the impression that he is to have Heth overreact and cause interal discord amoungst Provists and megacorps.
It is a major cause of it. Add to this the Caldari-Amarr Economic Agreement, where the State's independent banks owe the Empire money and you have a situation requiring careful handling by the most skilled and experienced executives.
Heth is actively working to remove these very people from positions of authority and action. Blaming mistakes he forced on the State on others.
Originally by: Jon Engel Mr Roden has a scheme to make the Caldari **** up. Roden knows corporate powerplay. If the Caldari ever had a Federation president to worry about it would be Roden, as he knows how the Caldari State leadership thinks and can play them like a fiddle.
I think this is where it is leading. The Federation has a President who knows how to hit the Caldari State where it matters most. That being the Megacorporations themselves.
Roden & the Federation could do nothing and Heth would likely be getting paranoid of all those with actual skill and the position to use it. This is Stalin purging the upper ranks of the Soviet Union to remove generals and managers with talent, charisma, and resources to become an internal rival.
In my view the current storyline leads one of two places:
1) Heth continues to consolidate power in the State. The sovereign powers of the megacorporation's are trampled upon. The story establishes the State as the Neo-Facist regime so many believe it to be. This helps to cement a Red vs Blue conflict between the Federation & State, Democracy vs Fascism, WWII.
2) Heth attempts to consolidate power and the backlash from the other megacorporations is wide reaching. Even the two other patriot megas work to isolate Heth & KK as Heth attempts to dictate the megas' operations, policies, etc. A civil war occurs in which Heth is removed from power and KK's overall power is severely reduced. The State's megacorporations continue to in fight, while the broken Patriots continue to fight the Fed in Black Rise.
I am personally a fan of option #2. Heth failing.
The Federation is not doing anything, It appears rather plainly Mr Roden is doing something. Mr Roden is being written as a backroom dealer, and his schemings seem to be directed at the Caldari State.
I guess when the State selected a warehouse foreman to do a job that requires intelligence, you end up failing. The Megacorps are moving against Heth, Roden is manipulating an already volatile situation, by who knows what exactly.
Point is, the State is revealing its weakness. That weakness being the very structure of it's "Government".
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.08 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel The Federation is not doing anything, It appears rather plainly Mr Roden is doing something. Mr Roden is being written as a backroom dealer, and his schemings seem to be directed at the Caldari State.
I guess when the State selected a warehouse foreman to do a job that requires intelligence, you end up failing. The Megacorps are moving against Heth, Roden is manipulating an already volatile situation, by who knows what exactly.
Point is, the State is revealing its weakness. That weakness being the very structure of it's "Government".
I would consider the actual framework a strength, the problem is the actual structure is not being used. Heth is attempting to impose a national federal government on the State which was previously a corporate confederate government. The conflict arising is one of attempting to covert from the corporate confederacy to national federation.
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Kel Kun
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Posted - 2010.04.09 05:02:00 -
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Oh well Gallente, I'm gonna be kind with you by telling you this:
It is planned that your governement tries to betray the State. There's is a counter to that, this one is known, And remember that the Caldari left the Federation because of that way that Gallente use. They're sized already.
There's nothing lost as they are ascending themselves to the Caldari state.
By the way, what took you [Gallente] so long to start the wheel?
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The Wicked1
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Posted - 2010.04.09 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Savasaan Todaro I'm not quite sure about what the Chronicle means even though I read it a couple times. Does it mean that the Caldari and Gallente are going to go into an all out war again? Can someone explain please?
The Gallente are liberal people and it was a serious blow for them to lose one of their major planets to a dictatorship like Heths.
So Roden is presumably going after what Caldari hold most dear, Money! If the financial system fails then the whole house of cards comes crashing down. The "Chronicle" about Caldari funds unlimited (CFU), which by the way was awesome and I hope we get more back story on some of the NPC corps in the future, its stated that if CFU hadn't backed the 8 Megas then the State would never have become real.
Also the financial warfare that the Megas conducted to buy up all the CFU shares had some devastating fallout for many Federation companies. This could be a reason enough for Roden to do what he did. Maybe even he lost something due to that fallout
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K'uata Sayus
IntelCor
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Posted - 2010.04.09 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Val Erian
Originally by: Brendana Fortescue
Caldari accessed insane ammount of wealth from ocupping gallente systems and then they magicaly loose it only couse Intaki Prime is occupied again by gallente?
The way I understood it Caldari megacorps borrowed immennse amount to exploit resources on gallente low sec worlds......they never got to much gains as not only Intaki prime but 41 other systems were retaken by gallente.
Whether this is the only casue of recent financial turmoil I dont know. It seems that Roden is causing problems or trying to give the impression that he is to have Heth overreact and cause interal discord amoungst Provists and megacorps.
No corporation worth their salt would invest huge amounts of cash into a venture such as this without guarantee of military enforced hegemony.
The military situation was tenuous at best, and they all bellied up to the auction bar and rolled the dice?
Without those guarantees the auction for the former Gallente system assets would have never occurred.
Who got all that money anyway? They said to Kaalakiota and other megacorps "Step right up, suckers, we've got a deal for you." Access to vast riches but no one knows how long you'll be able to exploit them? And you'll have to get in hock up to your eyeballs just to have a chance?
It makes great Eve theatre but hardly plausible given the hard-bitten cunning these characters are supposed to possess.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.04.10 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: The Wicked1 The Gallente are liberal people and it was a serious blow for them to lose one of their major planets to a dictatorship like Heths.
 A liberal people who instituted a secret police, the Black Eagles, and attempted to nationalize their industries.
Also "one of their major planets" happens to be called Caldari Prime.
Lastly, dictatorships can be a good thing, in the case of Heth and the Caldari State this is not true, but neither is it a good thing for the Federation to have what could be argued is a Gallente ultra-nationalist at the helm.
Originally by: Savasaan Todaro I'm not quite sure about what the Chronicle means even though I read it a couple times. Does it mean that the Caldari and Gallente are going to go into an all out war again? Can someone explain please?
Originally by: The Wicked1 So Roden is presumably going after what Caldari hold most dear, Money! If the financial system fails then the whole house of cards comes crashing down. The "Chronicle" about Caldari funds unlimited (CFU), which by the way was awesome and I hope we get more back story on some of the NPC corps in the future, its stated that if CFU hadn't backed the 8 Megas then the State would never have become real.
The Caldari do not hold money most dear. However, any nation's whose core banks begin to face trouble will find itself in dire straits (see Iceland in 2008/2009). If the Federation's banks backed a large and risky investment that fell through (say colonizing Cloud Ring) then the Federation's economy would be a tough spot.
The Megas do not have a lot of isk on hand. In order to do things like bid on occupied territory development rights, the megas had to get loans from the CFU (mainly). This investment is not paying off now.
In the first Gallente-Caldari War (Caldari War for Independence), the CFU was taken over by the megas (retconned recently) and provided the funds needed to really achieve that goal.
Quote: Also the financial warfare that the Megas conducted to buy up all the CFU shares had some devastating fallout for many Federation companies. This could be a reason enough for Roden to do what he did. Maybe even he lost something due to that fallout
Well considering it happened 200 years prior to the current IG year and I suspect Roden is in his 100s (not 200s) that is unlikely. I would even go so far as to argue that he likely benefited from the fallout that set those corporations back, allowing him to build his company in their place.
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Nie'eine Hier
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2010.04.10 19:29:00 -
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I think the Galente Federation will buy the Caldari Megacorps. No reason to drive the both nations again in a wastefull war.
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