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Mister LEM0NS Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:56:00 - [1] Theyre getting out of hand. I have a few ideas to limit them. -The 'I have this much ISK and ill send you double what you send me' scam. Most of these guys are less than a day old characters so why can day old characters cake contracts? What could they possibly have thats worth contracting if they realy ARE a day old character starting off in eve. - The long famed Mistaken identity scam where the description says one thing but the contact itself tells a different story. Just as the CCP did with the ISK farmers selling ISK with the 'report ISK spammer', why not do the same with EVERYONE with an open contract? Have the same right click tab open up and say 'report Scammer'. If enough people do this , say about 50 to 100 report the person, he can no longer create his own description for his own contracts As we can all agree, so much as PASSING through jita has been made into a one way ticket to literaly filling your local chat window to the brim with almost pure scams. Who knows, if CCP takes both of these ideas into effect, maby the jita population will fall, Inevitably leading to a safer trip through the system Obviously there will be flaws with these means od reducing scams, but its nothing the right ammount of minds working together to fix them can handle Finder of the Ibis navy issue.
Yarinor Yarinors Trust Fund	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:58:00 - [2] You know that you're allowed to scam in this game right?
Tobias Xiaosen Gallente TX Holdings Company	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:58:00 - [3] I too like cake contracts --- My sig got nerfed so I need a new one
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2010.04.06 16:59:00 - [4] Originally by: Mister LEM0NS Theyre getting out of hand. I have a few ideas to limit them. -The 'I have this much ISK and ill send you double what you send me' scam. Most of these guys are less than a day old characters so why can day old characters cake contracts? What could they possibly have thats worth contracting if they realy ARE a day old character starting off in eve. - The long famed Mistaken identity scam where the description says one thing but the contact itself tells a different story. Just as the CCP did with the ISK farmers selling ISK with the 'report ISK spammer', why not do the same with EVERYONE with an open contract? Have the same right click tab open up and say 'report Scammer'. If enough people do this , say about 50 to 100 report the person, he can no longer create his own description for his own contracts As we can all agree, so much as PASSING through jita has been made into a one way ticket to literaly filling your local chat window to the brim with almost pure scams. Who knows, if CCP takes both of these ideas into effect, maby the jita population will fall, Inevitably leading to a safer trip through the system Obviously there will be flaws with these means od reducing scams, but its nothing the right ammount of minds working together to fix them can handle i remember seeing you post this in jita local not ten minutes ago i still want to (ingame) punch your funny looking face for it tbh --- Even though you might disagree with what I say, that doesn't automatically make me a troll.
Armoured C Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:00:00 - [5] if you send me isk i will double your post count
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:02:00 - [6] Edited by: Kitimortoa on 06/04/2010 17:02:27 Originally by: Mister LEM0NS Theyre getting out of hand. I have a few ideas to limit them. -The 'I have this much ISK and ill send you double what you send me' scam. Most of these guys are less than a day old characters so why can day old characters cake contracts? What could they possibly have thats worth contracting if they realy ARE a day old character starting off in eve. - The long famed Mistaken identity scam where the description says one thing but the contact itself tells a different story. Just as the CCP did with the ISK farmers selling ISK with the 'report ISK spammer', why not do the same with EVERYONE with an open contract? Have the same right click tab open up and say 'report Scammer'. If enough people do this , say about 50 to 100 report the person, he can no longer create his own description for his own contracts As we can all agree, so much as PASSING through jita has been made into a one way ticket to literaly filling your local chat window to the brim with almost pure scams. Who knows, if CCP takes both of these ideas into effect, maby the jita population will fall, Inevitably leading to a safer trip through the system Obviously there will be flaws with these means od reducing scams, but its nothing the right ammount of minds working together to fix them can handle If you falsely report people as isk spammers you risk getting banned yourself since the report thing can result in people getting banned that aren't isk spammers. Please, use it often, I'd love to see the results. You do realize scamming is allowed in this game right?
Mister LEM0NS Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:09:00 - [7] Edited by: Mister LEM0NS on 06/04/2010 17:11:34 nullnullOnce again, i have said that there will be flaws. Whether it is something that will take into effect is up to the players. But we risk the whole banning yourself thing just reporting isk farmers. And the result of a false report wouldnt be that drastic anyway. It would have to be something JUST bad enough to make it not even worth it to falsely accuse someone such as a kickoff peroid (maby banned for 24 hours) if not enough people also report the person in a predetermined ammout of time. Once again though, it is a concept. And these are 2 concepts. What could be wrong with the first one anyway? Finder of the Ibis navy issue.
Derelicht	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:10:00 - [8] Originally by: Mister LEM0NS -The 'I have this much ISK and ill send you double what you send me' scam. I wondered if it would be possible to "report as isk seller" or whatever the phrasing is.
Sherringford Hovis	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Yarinor You know that you're allowed to scam in this game right? This.
SurrenderMonkey	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Mister LEM0NS Edited by: Mister LEM0NS on 06/04/2010 17:11:34 nullnullOnce again, i have said that there will be flaws. Flaws? Yeah, there's one big flaw: SCAMMING IS ALLOWED IN THIS GAME. If people weren't supposed to be able to scam, they would simply forbid it. Your ideas are a means of enforcing a rule that does not exist in the first place. --------------- Faction-Militia:Player-Alliance::Newbie-corp:Player-corp
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:25:00 - [11] for 50 million isk I will war dec all the scammers and make them pay. 2 million for the ward and then need the 48 mill for lots and lots of ships to blow them up in. This is a legit offer.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:27:00 - [12] scamming is fine, but is what happens in Jita really scamming? 'cause it looks more like they've got a macro setup that just spams local 24/7 with fake contracts and the infamous double-your-isk. - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Makin' Bacon	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:28:00 - [13] If you send me all of your cake contracts, I will return you 2x as many pies.
Mister LEM0NS Caldari	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Rawr Cristina scamming is fine, but is what happens in Jita really scamming? 'cause it looks more like they've got a macro setup that just spams local 24/7 with fake contracts and the infamous double-your-isk. Exactly! thats another thing, only post a contract once every minute or so? Even that would make it a tad easier to withstand the barrage of bull in the jita local. Finder of the Ibis navy issue.
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2010.04.06 17:49:00 - [15] I usually get gagged if I try and pull the old "send me isk" trick in Jita. I don't know why the others don't, but I smell a rat.
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.06 18:02:00 - [16] Edited by: Tippia on 06/04/2010 18:04:20 Originally by: Mister LEM0NS Theyre getting out of hand. How so? Quote: I have a few ideas to limit them. Why is that needed? Quote: Just as the CCP did with the ISK farmers selling ISK with the 'report ISK spammer', why not do the same with EVERYONE with an open contract? Have the same right click tab open up and say 'report Scammer'. What would you report them for? He's not done anything wrong. Quote: As we can all agree, so much as PASSING through jita has been made into a one way ticket to literaly filling your local chat window to the brim with almost pure scams. So? Originally by: Derelicht Originally by: Mister LEM0NS -The 'I have this much ISK and ill send you double what you send me' scam. I wondered if it would be possible to "report as isk seller" or whatever the phrasing is. You could, but that would make the GM:s do nasty things to your account since you'd be harassing other players. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Chaster Mareel	Posted - 2010.04.06 18:07:00 - [17] ^^ This
000Hunter000 Gallente Industrial Exploits Massive Intergalactic Love Klub	Posted - 2010.04.06 18:33:00 - [18] Scams?... In Jita??? NARRRR!!! Really??? LMFAO!!! Only a complete fool, would fall for one of those! ________________________________________________
Taxesarebad	Posted - 2010.04.06 18:39:00 - [19] i like many others don't mind the fact that there are scams but damn. the amount of scamming is kinda out of hand. its like everytime the people IRL go to sleep the set up there macro for local. anyways. your ideas wont work. but scamming is allowed.
Presbyter	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:00:00 - [20] I agree that scamming is permitted as a game mechanic, but what's occurring in Jita is a nuisance. I can't remember the last time I even bother to look at local in Jita - hell, they scroll so fast it's not like I could read it anyway. The whole chat/local system needs to be overhauled anyway - and I see this as a limitation of that system more than anything else.
Radix Salvilines The Gummy Bears	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:01:00 - [21] scammers are actually a good thing - theyre a part of the eve's self defense mechanism against dumbies and jerks... :P long live scammers!!
Amberlamps	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:03:00 - [22] Originally by: SurrenderMonkey Originally by: Mister LEM0NS Edited by: Mister LEM0NS on 06/04/2010 17:11:34 nullnullOnce again, i have said that there will be flaws. Flaws? Yeah, there's one big flaw: SCAMMING IS ALLOWED IN THIS GAME. If people weren't supposed to be able to scam, they would simply forbid it. Your ideas are a means of enforcing a rule that does not exist in the first place. Lol, yeh though I'm pretty sure macro mining is "Forbidden" and where has that got us? Ice belts are pretty much nearly all macro miners most mining systems have them 23/7 and they're still there months later. Perhaps they should do something more than "Forbid" All in all, allowing scamming is a little gay. It seems its easier to allow it then to police it. Obviously there has to be a little chlorine in the gene pool to filter out the idiots who fall for the scams. Though I really think there should be some limit on the amount of contracts you can spam into local.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:13:00 - [23] Edited by: Zartrader on 06/04/2010 19:15:54 Why does anyone care about Jita local and scamming? No need to use local is there? I go there to trade, not chat, and there's a little button called 'minimizee' to close the window. If I'm bored I might even read them for entertainment value but no one is forcing me to. Anyway scamming is a core feature of EVE, always has been. Knowing that makes them very easy to avoid and they do not affect me in the slightest, unlike macro miners which do.
Aka5ha Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:15:00 - [24] I bought sisters combat scanner and full probe set 3 times before I realized there sold on the npc market.
MickeyKnox Elysium Trading Company Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:17:00 - [25] 9/10 For trolling some well-known faces, but not me.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:18:00 - [26] Originally by: Aka5ha I bought sisters combat scanner and full probe set 3 times before I realized there sold on the npc market. Why is that a scam?
eliminator2 Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.06 19:53:00 - [27] lol luv the report sca idea to stop people from namin there contracts /me makes 50 alts and does it to the whole of eve :D
DaveW Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.06 20:33:00 - [28] "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today " --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."
Blake Fullerton	Posted - 2010.04.06 21:19:00 - [29] Minimize local when in Jita? Solved.
Armoured C Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2010.04.06 22:10:00 - [30] Originally by: DaveW "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today " win +1 internets

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