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dyutrfyt
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Posted - 2010.04.08 11:46:00 -
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I recently hired underworld excavators to fight 2 small corporations that were harassing us. The deal was, they would collect a good amount of kills to teach them a lesson. So far the only thing they have done is give them free kills.
In regards to that, I have asked for a refund as their performance was bellow average (0 kills 10 losses). Proof: here Concerning the refund they refused, hence I believe I have been scammed.
This is an informative post to inform future industrial corporations/new player corporations to not send them ISK.
Post made with alt to conceal my identity, I'm hoping that they have at least the decency to keep my main hidden as discussed in the contract negotiations.
Regards,
Anonymous
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.04.08 12:05:00 -
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I wouldn't count on you staying anonymous over this as you chose to tar and feather them publicly here first.
No idea what the payment construction was but if it was a wardec & startup fee + bonuses for kills made they have done nothing wrong apart from failing big time I suppose. If you prepaid for kills then it is another story (depending what they promised you in kills and/or refunds).
Anyway, I suppose this is a big advertisement to promote the start-up/wardec fee + additional bonuses for kills construction.
off-topic: We should have a mercenary corp tournament sometime by the way, seeing there are so many of them lately. Should result in a nice ranking list to have somekind of reference to estimate how good the different corps are and what they can ask for their services.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.04.08 12:49:00 -
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/me grabs popcorn and waits
btw, i am one of the losses. hi5?
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Cikulisuy
Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.08 12:57:00 -
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oh this has a good potential to backfire spectacularly. nub> you cant mine so you kill. |
Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.04.08 13:03:00 -
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For the low low price of 1.5B isk i can infiltrate their organization and pull it down from the inside. Contact me in game for details of how I will accomplish this and ask around for my record of nasty things I have done.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.04.08 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin For the low low price of 1.5B isk i can infiltrate their organization and pull it down from the inside. Contact me in game for details of how I will accomplish this and ask around for my record of nasty things I have done.
she will have time to make that isk, since the wts are not harassing her anymore and staying in the station or a couple of jumps out.
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2010.04.08 13:34:00 -
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Maybe next time you should do some research before you hire anyone. Hiring fail mercs is your own fault. |
Zax Zyx
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Posted - 2010.04.08 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ran Khanon ... off-topic: We should have a mercenary corp tournament sometime by the way, seeing there are so many of them lately. Should result in a nice ranking list to have somekind of reference to estimate how good the different corps are and what they can ask for their services.
Hey I'd pay isk to see that. Set up a tournament, offer out tickets to the highest bidders, money goes into the pot and gets divided amongst the winner(s).
1 v 1 5 v 5 corp v corp
If the pvp is good, I'd pay.
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Uruz Rune
Minmatar Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.04.08 14:39:00 -
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I can't speak for the UE leadership, but MCREW has always maintained a policy of full refunds should the client be dissatisfied for any reason. I am fairly certain this policy also applies to UE, but again, I don't speak for Le Soltueur.
Any concerns regarding UE contracts should be directed towards Le Soltueur. o/
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2010.04.08 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zax Zyx
Originally by: Ran Khanon ... off-topic: We should have a mercenary corp tournament sometime by the way, seeing there are so many of them lately. Should result in a nice ranking list to have somekind of reference to estimate how good the different corps are and what they can ask for their services.
Hey I'd pay isk to see that. Set up a tournament, offer out tickets to the highest bidders, money goes into the pot and gets divided amongst the winner(s).
1 v 1 5 v 5 corp v corp
If the pvp is good, I'd pay.
There are much easier ways to determine which Merc outfits are the best.
And a tournament doesn't show who the best mercs are, just who can fight in arena style combat better, which is never how merc work is. So it's a pretty terrible way to try to judge them.
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Palinurus Somnus
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Posted - 2010.04.08 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar
Originally by: Zax Zyx
Originally by: Ran Khanon ... off-topic: We should have a mercenary corp tournament sometime by the way, seeing there are so many of them lately. Should result in a nice ranking list to have somekind of reference to estimate how good the different corps are and what they can ask for their services.
Hey I'd pay isk to see that. Set up a tournament, offer out tickets to the highest bidders, money goes into the pot and gets divided amongst the winner(s).
1 v 1 5 v 5 corp v corp
If the pvp is good, I'd pay.
There are much easier ways to determine which Merc outfits are the best.
And a tournament doesn't show who the best mercs are, just who can fight in arena style combat better, which is never how merc work is. So it's a pretty terrible way to try to judge them.
I completely agree. Everyone knows a double-elimination skee-ball tournament would give you the true rankings.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.04.08 16:37:00 -
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Skee-ball? Pfft. The only way to evaluate who's best is with a chess tournament.
e4.
Now, as to OP... not sure what's going on, but I'm interested to hear UE's leadership take on it. And I don't think you can expect to maintain anonymity in the face of airing dirty laundry like this. But maybe they'll take the high road.
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Zeraphine Akarii
When Saints Go Machine
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Posted - 2010.04.08 16:58:00 -
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Normin Bates
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Posted - 2010.04.08 17:20:00 -
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OP should hire Noir to punish UE for their failness.
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.04.08 18:26:00 -
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Now i dont know if Solty included a refund clause but strictly speaking just because they're not winning doesnt entitle you to get your money back.
Are they making a good faith effort to get your contract done? Is this effort continuing for the duration agreed to in the contract? Unless you can prove either of those things to be false then you might be a dissatisfied customer but you are not a victim of a scam and the mercs have not broken contract. ---
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Bongo Debbie
Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.04.08 18:56:00 -
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We will need to see the terms of the contract before we can play internet spaceship lawyers. ----
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Ran Khanon
Amarr Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bongo Debbie We will need to see the terms of the contract before we can play internet spaceship lawyers.
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L3pp3r
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:24:00 -
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It is hard to draw a conclusion either way without knowing the exact contract that was agreed on. Can you post the exact terms that you both agreed to?
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Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations Takhar Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: L3pp3r It is hard to draw a conclusion either way without knowing the exact contract that was agreed on. Can you post the exact terms that you both agreed to?
This, and if it turns out that you are just bull****ting about this then I hope your identity is put out for all to point and laugh at, also so others can avoid doing business with you in the future.
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Fatty McChubchub
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Posted - 2010.04.09 00:18:00 -
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I smell a troll. Perhaps the alt of the dec'd to a). beat their e-peen due to lack of a real woman in their life. b). to try coaxing out the "who" hired UE.
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Shadow Willow
V I R I I Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.04.09 00:20:00 -
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I R TROLLZ
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Padan Fain
Order of the Phoenix H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.04.09 00:53:00 -
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Cross checking kill boards for a trend of 'harassment'
The bottom of this shall be gotten to.
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Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2010.04.09 01:12:00 -
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-Sadly the original poster is not the first to have been scammed by Underworld Excavators. Once, perhaps, they were good . . . but they have definately been coasting on their reputation for a few months now.
-As I understand it, most of their 'good' pilots have left, or are in the process of leaving . . . and a simple scan of this thread should serve to identify most of their loud-mouth alts and out of corp logistic-*****s.
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RoCkEt X
Hostile.
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Posted - 2010.04.09 01:46:00 -
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I'm the CEO of the target corp of UE's merc dec. we dont give a cr*p about them epic failing, just good kills to us. As for who paid them, maybe the corp who's highsec POS's we spent all last week bashing.
We'd have no reason to post this, although the OP's emoraging is somewhat amusing i must admit :)
-RX
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Donny Maurasi
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Posted - 2010.04.09 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Zax Zyx
Originally by: Ran Khanon ... off-topic: We should have a mercenary corp tournament sometime by the way, seeing there are so many of them lately. Should result in a nice ranking list to have somekind of reference to estimate how good the different corps are and what they can ask for their services.
Hey I'd pay isk to see that. Set up a tournament, offer out tickets to the highest bidders, money goes into the pot and gets divided amongst the winner(s).
1 v 1 5 v 5 corp v corp
If the pvp is good, I'd pay.
A Merc Corp tournament could likely take place in a quiet system with a single station. The winner would of course be the guys that stayed undocked the longest and managed to smack the hardest.
Special bonus points could be award to the corp that managed to produce the most neutral logistics alts.
TBH.. bad idea.. because watching a Merc tournament would likely be as fun as watching grass grow while listening to two teenage girls talking about the hottest guy in school.
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Kitimortoa
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Posted - 2010.04.09 04:01:00 -
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I am the negotiating diplomat for a very powerful mercenary alliance. If you wish us to take care of UE, we can do so, but at a price.
I guarentee you will get your isk back from them before we're done, and we will negotiate a payment that is less than what you paid them.
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DDemon
Volatile Instability
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Posted - 2010.04.09 08:33:00 -
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I am also a CEO of one of the corporations UE has decced. We also don't give a cr*p about them epic failing, also good kills to us when they decloak eventually.
I also find the OP's emo raging amusing.
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.04.09 08:33:00 -
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Every single merc entity in EVE is complete trash.
- Intigo
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.04.09 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Every single merc entity in EVE is complete trash.
- Intigo
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Fo Shizz
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Posted - 2010.04.09 12:06:00 -
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I remember these guys, they were hired against my corp one time, to save two high sec pos's we reinforced. They talked a good game, came in our off timezone to save some face, but yet, did not engage us, nor did they do anything about the towers they were hired to save. One of my members said it best.... they are forum mercs. Confirm do not hire these guys, you are just waisting your isk.
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