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Paikis
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:55:00 -
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Kharn Drago wrote:Noob Question: Whats CNR?  I'm flying lvl 4 missions in my drake with t1 launchers and bad skills and I still earn much money (in comparison to lvl 3's).
CNR stands for Raven Navy Issue |
Cu3ball
Edge of Darkness
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Posted - 2012.07.14 21:42:00 -
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Short answer: every ship mentioned so far will do lvl 4's. And do them well. It really comes down to personal preference. If you like light and fast, go with a Tengu. If you like big and slow, go with a Raven/CNR/Golem/Rattlesnake. Something in the middle? Drake/Nighthawk. From missile boats, they all will do the job fine.
I have used all the above and more. Could never really get into using BS's, so I used a nighthawk for a long time. Switched to a tengu and really liked it. Now I fly both, depending on how I feel. Like someone said before, try to figure out what you want to fly next, after this ship.
Also, I use an Ishtur when I am bored, lvl 4's in an AF is a lot of fun. Not the fasted way to do them, but a lot of fun. |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.17 20:58:00 -
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Cu3ball wrote:Also, I use an Ishtur when I am bored, lvl 4's in an AF is a lot of fun. Not the fasted way to do them, but a lot of fun.
I always found it weird when people talked about doing missions with sub-optimal ships or fits "for fun". Missions are the most fun when they go fast and the isk to time ratio is favorable. |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
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Posted - 2012.07.17 21:59:00 -
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Traejun DiSanctis wrote:Cu3ball wrote:Also, I use an Ishtur when I am bored, lvl 4's in an AF is a lot of fun. Not the fasted way to do them, but a lot of fun. I always found it weird when people talked about doing missions with sub-optimal ships or fits "for fun". Missions are the most fun when they go fast and the isk to time ratio is favorable.
I sense you are on the cusp of grasping the meaning of "different strokes for different folks." Keep it up! |
Masik Dreamweaver
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:58:00 -
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now what about anoms? ive dual boxed a tengu and a raven together and the tengu outshines the raven using cruise missiles. but i guess i need to get t2 launchers on the raven |
Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:04:00 -
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Masik Dreamweaver wrote:now what about anoms? ive dual boxed a tengu and a raven together and the tengu outshines the raven using cruise missiles. but i guess i need to get t2 launchers on the raven
The stock Raven is a little lackluster. It's a stopgap ship for missile-based PvE. From there, you go CNR for slamming through missions... or you go Tengu for WH, Exploration and null ratting. |
Velarra
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
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Posted - 2012.07.21 06:04:00 -
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Kharn Drago wrote:Noob Question: Whats CNR?
Raven Navy Issue
Yet more casually as previously stated above, Caldari Navy Raven. |
Nestara Aldent
Citimatics
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Posted - 2012.07.21 07:00:00 -
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For a missile specced pilot its either Raven-CNR (or Golem instead) or Drake-Tengu (or Nighthawk instead) route.
If you plan to move to null in that char, however Cal Cruiser V will be infinitely more useful (and BC V too for Drake/Nighthawk) because of PVP uses (Tengu/Falcon/Onyx/Drake/Basilisk are all used in PVP), while torpedo skills will make you a decent bomber pilot only (and for missioning Raven/CNR you'll use cruise missiles instead, and not torpedos Golem uses which have zero PVP use).
Also Golem while its a top mission running ship is very skill intensive and dont unlock really worthwhile stuff IMO (and it needs BS V - even if you plan to skill for capitals, I dont think your corp or alliance mates will advise you to skill fro Caldari, as almost everyone uses armor capital doctrine AFAIK, shield caps have only niche uses). |
Teemo Is-OP
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.23 06:02:00 -
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Metolz wrote:I've played this game on and off since 2007 on my other character, and I always assumed the natural progression for caldari ship mission runners was drake then raven then CNR/golem. I pretty much just play this character now and missions is what I am doing for the time being.
Reading a few topics recently I have seen people advising not to bother training for a raven and cruise missiles and to just hold out in the drake until you can get in a tengu. Is this really the case? Is a raven not an adequate upgrade, or is this simply a matter of the extra time a raven takes means its time not spent going towards tengu which is apparently more fun?
I currently have about 9mil SP, good fitting skills and 1.5mil in missiles. I'd really like to fly a nighthawk or a tengu but the thought of BC5 and cruiser 5 concurrently is very daunting. Is it really not worth me getting in a raven, would I not earn isk faster anytime soon? The battleships are of course cheaper too, it'll take a while to earn enough in a drake.
gimme a break. thats LOW sp. not lowISH. if u want ppl to help tell the mwt u have and be done. quit trying to make ureself feel better mushing the line.
Low SP (you): Fly a Drake do lvl 3's.
LowISH: Fly a tengu, do lvl 4''s. Decline the "hard" ones.
Medium: Fly a CNR with T2 cruises.
High (for missioners): Fly a Mael > Vargur/Mach
How do you know when ure SP is low lowish medium etc? When you can fly those ships and well (skillwise)
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Traejun DiSanctis
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:10:00 -
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Teemo Is-OP wrote:Metolz wrote:I've played this game on and off since 2007 on my other character, and I always assumed the natural progression for caldari ship mission runners was drake then raven then CNR/golem. I pretty much just play this character now and missions is what I am doing for the time being.
Reading a few topics recently I have seen people advising not to bother training for a raven and cruise missiles and to just hold out in the drake until you can get in a tengu. Is this really the case? Is a raven not an adequate upgrade, or is this simply a matter of the extra time a raven takes means its time not spent going towards tengu which is apparently more fun?
I currently have about 9mil SP, good fitting skills and 1.5mil in missiles. I'd really like to fly a nighthawk or a tengu but the thought of BC5 and cruiser 5 concurrently is very daunting. Is it really not worth me getting in a raven, would I not earn isk faster anytime soon? The battleships are of course cheaper too, it'll take a while to earn enough in a drake.
gimme a break. thats LOW sp. not lowISH. if u want ppl to help tell the mwt u have and be done. quit trying to make ureself feel better mushing the line. Low SP (you): Fly a Drake do lvl 3's. LowISH: Fly a tengu, do lvl 4''s. Decline the "hard" ones. Medium: Fly a CNR with T2 cruises. High (for missioners): Fly a Mael > Vargur/Mach How do you know when ure SP is low lowish medium etc? When you can fly those ships and well (skillwise)
You may be the biggest horses a$$ on the forum right now. Congratultions, sir... you have taken first prize in the idiot Olympics. |
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Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
267
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Posted - 2012.07.23 22:33:00 -
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Teemo Is-OP wrote:phail post
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Kasutra
Tailor Company
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2012.07.24 00:43:00 -
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Teemo Is-OP wrote:gimme a break. thats LOW sp. not lowISH. if u want ppl to help tell the mwt u have and be done. quit trying to make ureself feel better mushing the line.
Low SP (you): Fly a Drake do lvl 3's.
LowISH: Fly a tengu, do lvl 4''s. Decline the "hard" ones.
Medium: Fly a CNR with T2 cruises.
High (for missioners): Fly a Mael > Vargur/Mach
How do you know when ure SP is low lowish medium etc? When you can fly those ships and well (skillwise)
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