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DONJUAN v
Tarnak inc.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.04.08 15:58:00 -
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i really enjoy the fact that fw plexes in low sec have ship size restriction
a medium size fw plex will allow up to cruisers and tech 2 frigs , wich makes it very fun to fight in
knowing your not gonna have rapiers falcons cyno and all those suprises come in and **** up a fight
the problem is they are completely useless and nobody runs them other then morons wanting medals and and tags .
why not change deadspace plexes to have random ship restrictions .
i would love to go in a 0.0 system and find 3 guys in cruisers doing a mid size plex
atm the only way to do , is :
step 1 : alt in cov ops find 10/10 plex
step 2 : bring ishtar (if plex is hard , more ishtars)
step 3 : ?
step 4 : Profit
im sorry i just dont want to run my ishtar in 0.0 unscouted (yes i dont have an alt  ) . i also dont want to blue the blob that actualy spam there pos in the region
now this is just an idea , atm i can fly all non capital ships yet there no point to it as only 5 or 6 ships are usefull . so maybe doing this would bring a mix of ships to roam low sec and 0.0 . Not just recons/dramiel/sabre/vaga
tldr : ship restriction in deadspace plexes could bring back fun in small scale pvp
p.s im just speaking in general could be done to anomalies or what ever and yes just like the fw plexes some should allow all ships of course (probly hard to run a 10/10 with frig and destoryers only  )
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Bad Messenger
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2010.04.08 18:56:00 -
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There is ship size restrictions in those plexes. you can enter 1/10 with frigates.
those 1/10 plexes are in high/lowsec systems...
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DONJUAN v
Tarnak inc.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.04.08 19:49:00 -
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well all the plexes worth doing are done in ishtar
i find it boring as ****
had this dream of a blob entering a 0.0 system and seing me in a vexor do a plex
since the plex has ship restriction only there small stuff can come in my plex , for me to **** them up , at that time the rest of there blob cant do **** (mainly big dps boats etc.)
i just wish there be more use of those restriction to make it more fun and mix things up
ppl say theres no iwin button in eve .
no theres like 4,5 of them
i want a reason to run plexes not im my ishtar
or a reason to fly a stabber and not a vaga
if we can get that , maybe , just maybe could we see ppl flying that 3/4 of ships presently pointless
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Joe Censored
Unknown-Entity
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.08 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Censored on 08/04/2010 20:52:47
Did I miss something? Since when did small scale pvp in 0.0 stop being fun? I'm small gang PVPing in 0.0 every single day, and its great fun. Are you just one of those guys that hasn't figured out how to out maneuver enemy blobs?
I think this is a terrible idea BTW
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2010.04.08 23:57:00 -
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More spaces with ship restrictions sounds good to me. Wormholes sort of do this and thats a good thing. Your right about the fw plexes being great - they are. I would actually like it if CCP added whole systems where the gates were so old they would only let cruiser and down etc.
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Mrs Fannie
Caldari
Nazzi Lo Riders
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Posted - 2010.04.09 00:53:00 -
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 Originally by: DONJUAN v
i really enjoy the fact that fw plexes in low sec have ship size restriction
a medium size fw plex will allow up to cruisers and tech 2 frigs , wich makes it very fun to fight in
knowing your not gonna have rapiers falcons cyno and all those suprises come in and **** up a fight
the problem is they are completely useless and nobody runs them other then morons wanting medals and and tags .
why not change deadspace plexes to have random ship restrictions .
i would love to go in a 0.0 system and find 3 guys in cruisers doing a mid size plex
atm the only way to do , is :
step 1 : alt in cov ops find 10/10 plex
step 2 : bring ishtar (if plex is hard , more ishtars)
step 3 : ?
step 4 : Profit
im sorry i just dont want to run my ishtar in 0.0 unscouted (yes i dont have an alt ) . i also dont want to blue the blob that actualy spam there pos in the region
now this is just an idea , atm i can fly all non capital ships yet there no point to it as only 5 or 6 ships are usefull . so maybe doing this would bring a mix of ships to roam low sec and 0.0 . Not just recons/dramiel/sabre/vaga
tldr : ship restriction in deadspace plexes could bring back fun in small scale pvp
p.s im just speaking in general could be done to anomalies or what ever and yes just like the fw plexes some should allow all ships of course (probly hard to run a 10/10 with frig and destoryers only )
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2010.04.09 12:58:00 -
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Why ? In 00 you mostly see Cruiser sized ships.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.09 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Censored
Did I miss something? Since when did small scale pvp in 0.0 stop being fun? I'm small gang PVPing in 0.0 every single day, and its great fun. Are you just one of those guys that hasn't figured out how to out maneuver enemy blobs?
I think this is a terrible idea BTW
Originally by: Haramir Haleths
Why ? In 00 you mostly see Cruiser sized ships.
I think you gentlemen are missing the point, sure you have small gang action and cruiser fights in 0.0, but it will always be ruined to some extent by the constant threat of hot-drops, bomber packs and what not.
The size restricted nature of FW combat is one of its few saving graces as it doesn't discriminate based on ISK or skills in the same way as current 0.0 does.
It is hard to describe to someone who have not tried an engagement where all you have to concern yourself about is what is the overview.
Gives a sense of purpose and sacrifice that you don't get when you constantly have to look over your shoulder for a cyno or de-cloak and don't have to traverse a bubble every other gate.
As for similar restricted DED spaces in 0.0 .. not sure. Some of the more elitist null-sec folk consider themselves "better" than low-sec dwellers even if there is more fun to had (if one is into the small stuff).
I think it is good to have such a difference between the various playgrounds so would probably oppose it if it was considered.
Perhaps it could be solved by mixing up the exploration site spawns a little more so it isn't only the big stuff that crops up .. still wouldn't have the beacons which is a large part of why FW plexes work as PvP sites.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.09 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
still wouldn't have the beacons which is a large part of why FW plexes work as PvP sites.
Tbh; about FW plexes working as PVP sites, from my experience of preying on all the FW people, only the entrances really do work, inside the plexes the rats (depending on which of course) offer massive assistance. Plus the plexes themselves are done in often very riskless ways which once the target is in don't really provide any sort of risk to it.
Is it any different once you're in actual FW, no idea.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.09 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Is it any different once you're in actual FW, no idea.
NPC's are rarely an issue when an actual fight happens.
An offensive gang can normally nuke everything there is before the enemy comes in and in case of a defensive gang the NPC's haven't been "triggered" so don't get involved (enemy has to move into timer range for trigger to occur).
In the really good fights where it goes back and forth with multiple reships they can be a bother until an attacker gets a few minutes alone with them 
A large portion of them will be out of range for 10 minutes or more which leaves the eWar as the biggest nuisance, really should be toned down or removed outright.
Amarr/Minmatar have had the best week since the beginning of the war. Post-DT gangs were roughly equal in size and tonnage and ended up as straight slug-fests, a few times with 3-4 fights over a single plex .. pure fun.
The biggest downsides of the FW plex system as far as PvP is concerned is as mentioned the eWar and then the warp-in point .. makes it far too easy to camp the hell out of a plex making some fights rather lop-sided.
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DONJUAN v
Tarnak inc.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.04.09 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Censored
Edited by: Joe Censored on 08/04/2010 20:52:47
Did I miss something? Since when did small scale pvp in 0.0 stop being fun? I'm small gang PVPing in 0.0 every single day, and its great fun. Are you just one of those guys that hasn't figured out how to out maneuver enemy blobs?
I think this is a terrible idea BTW
yeah you seemed to have missed something dear Joe
you get your rook blowed up in a gang of 7 hacs vs 1 bs
and the only thing you fly is rooks
so plz just stfu and lets the real men talk
for ppl actually flying solo , with no scout alt
go check kadeshi blue list you will see it is slim to none
just like your pvp skills
all im looking for is a reason for ppl to roam 0.0 and low sec in ships that arent the best they can have
everyone and there mom can fly vaga and rooks (you just showed this to us)
now if there could be a reason to step down to stabber/blackbird (plex restriction)
then maybe this would bring back fun for us
tldr : joe stinks at pvp and his opinion should not be taken into consideration
P.S. : i eat BSA for b-feast 
P.P.S. : didn't your mom tell you to not fit multi specs , joe?
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.09 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
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Oh, gangs.
I used to camp entrance points with a arty thrasher waiting for T1/T2 frigs. 
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.09 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Oh, gangs.
I used to camp entrance points with a arty thrasher waiting for T1/T2 frigs.
Yea, all us old school plexing carebears are ganging up now as we have gotten addicted to the sweet taste of blood.
Doesn't help that most of us have been at it for far too long so have a developed a hate-hate relationship with our enemy counterparts
The solo plexing is still done but rarely amounts to anything PvP wise, mostly to de-/stabilize off the beaten path systems and pass the time really.
Point is, it is the size restriction on the gates that makes the at times nail-biting fights so awesome. Nothing like several hours worth of near non-stop cruiser/frig action to get one pumped for a whole day.
The warp-in point should be widened to a 30km sphere like a gate though .. being the first one in is too painful as it is now
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DONJUAN v
Tarnak inc.
The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2010.04.09 19:40:00 -
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i feel ya
i dont care if im in a vaga or stabber its as much fun
thats why i want more reason to fly those cheap tech 1 cruisers
so i can spend less time making isks to fuel my ship hangar
and more time talking about the awsome fight i just got vs 5x caracals 
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