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Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.04.09 00:04:00 - [31] Edited by: Orree on 09/04/2010 00:09:14 Wasn't it the "South's" turn? If we go back a few years we had... "Chow we're stealing your targets!" where BoB saddled up and went to go try to save LV and the North took a chance, tried to take advantage of the situation at the time and piled into the south (an invasion that ultimately failed for a number of reasons. Then, the South came north for MAX, enjoyed some reasonable successes early on and then were soundly beaten in Tribute. After MAX, the North went south again to help bail out the Goons which subsequently lead to the demise/dissolution of the GBC and total sacking of Delve. Now we have the South heading north again. Not only do I not see the validity of the "sheep" charge, I see the current situation as the normal progression of things and it being the South's turn on offense. Where you see "and still they did not dare," I rather think it was more like, "and still they did not care." Even though the NC seems to have become pretty "Goonified" in its forum and local behavior, back when I was in Morsus Mihi, there was respect fo PL but not a lot of like and there was a fair amount of dislike for Goons (at least in RAWR, I think RZR was cool with both). Even as part of a small, insignificant member of the overall southern bloc, I still think this whole passive North/sheep thing is way overdone and not representative of the truth. Edit: Forgot to mention that I fully agree that Molle is more of an instigator/mover than anyone currently running anything in the NC. I just don't think it's true that the NC always sits back and waits for things to come to them. Sometimes, yes...and that isn't necessarily as bad thing. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
enjoi Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 00:23:00 - [32] Orree.. was that.. was that a coherent post on caod? I'm shocked at you. Shocked. Real men structure tank.
slip66 Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 01:38:00 - [33] O! o! o! Can I be a Sunflower? Just chill out in the warm sun all day and grow and grow.. sun flower seeds are good. I'm hungry :(
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2010.04.09 01:42:00 - [34] I would be a dog....... not just any dog....... this dog! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxF0RFqxbCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2010.04.09 01:48:00 - [35] and this one is definately Satan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuPYVxpWAk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 02:08:00 - [36] Edited by: Metal Dude on 09/04/2010 02:09:54 Originally by: Orree ... Like I told you years ago, Orree. The difference between sheep and wolfs is that wolfs are out there doing the hunting, while sheep hide behind their dogs. Molle and other SC leaders are out there in their titans risking their **** all the time because they enjoy the hunt. Sheep leaders hide behind their members, giving propaganda speeches while their members are dying for them. I could never respect a leader that never shows up to a fight or shows up in a covert Op while telling his members to lay it on the line. ThatÆs the difference. The truth will set you free
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.04.09 03:07:00 - [37] The NC doesn't care about what BoB's current iteration does. The Southern alliances have a long history of not being a threat when it attempts a military conquest of the north. The SC is trying this same tired approach again. Did you really expect anything different? Protip: you won't beat the NC with Dominion sov rules on their home turf. MAX was bad enough using the old sov rules which were easily exploitable by aggressors. You should rethink your approach otherwise call this a friendly skirmish, because it'll hvr about the same effect as the last 3 times Molle's come north.
Glonn Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.04.09 03:34:00 - [38] tl;dr [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Glonn][/url]
StainLessStealRat Caldari Legio V Fidelus Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.04.09 03:54:00 - [39] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:53 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:03 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:06:48 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:05:38 Originally by: Radgette Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 08/04/2010 20:28:17 Originally by: General Windypops hot hatch... turbo diesel... seconded next he will be saying it's a vauxfail or F.I.A.T ( anyone with motor trade exp will know what fiat stands for :P ) Yeah? Let's see who's laughing when I burn you off the lights, fly boy. Leather, heated seats too btw, and ipod docking station, and paint matched body kit. Only noobs don't understand that diesel engine have higher tork. Because tiny girls cars need tork right?!?! unless your towing a jet ski then you can have your balls back Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist
Gumpy Nighthawk Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 06:17:00 - [40] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:53 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:03 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:06:48 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:05:38 Originally by: Radgette Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 08/04/2010 20:28:17 Originally by: General Windypops hot hatch... turbo diesel... seconded next he will be saying it's a vauxfail or F.I.A.T ( anyone with motor trade exp will know what fiat stands for :P ) Yeah? Let's see who's laughing when I burn you off the lights, fly boy. Leather, heated seats too btw, and ipod docking station, and paint matched body kit. Only noobs don't understand that diesel engine have higher tork. Confirming that the matching body kit will make you go soooo much faster. Anyway i was expecting goats here, so i'm p. disappointed Nothing in education is so astonishing as the amount of ignorance it accumulates in the form of facts.
Deltanne Caldari Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.04.09 07:15:00 - [41] Edited by: Deltanne on 09/04/2010 07:25:58 Quote: This isn't a thread about your national pastime, it's a deeply philosophical thread about the nature of mankind. I saw a picture in our forums i think it is not too bad so i will post it here: Picture And i dont know if this goes to far but i know that in several universities mmorpgs are examined, like if there is gender bending, if pretty charakters cause other reactions than ungly ones (its stange but that is actually the case) and how and what people transfer from their social and cultural background into online gaming enviroments. Of course Eve with its large social groups would be a nice field of study maybe some day someone will take a closer look. Would be interesting to know if people from different countrys and cultures tend to different play styles. That is what the thread should be abbout, but after the first sentence unfortunatly its only the common NC sux Sc rox... Of course little grunts in NC or SC has nothing to do with leader decisions for the chessboard, but for me personally playing the Quote: passive defensive role is much more attractive than playing the agressor. Quote: I could never respect a leader that never shows up to a fight or shows up in a covert Op while telling his members to lay it on the line. ThatÆs the difference. I dont know if i would respect my leader more (i actually never though abbout such things)if he would waste everyones money by burning titan after titan. But sure if money is no problem thats fine, but why should i respect him for the risk then?
Meno Theaetetus Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.04.09 07:41:00 - [42] You forgot the last group of people, the group that never really achieve anything of note in game and resort to trying to become famous on the forums. You and WI's premier poasting team have to have something to work towards right, heres a question to ponder next time your driving windy, if aaa and IT ever went to war, which side would you be on and who do you think would win?
DigitalCommunist Gallente November Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.09 07:41:00 - [43] RHETORICAL RHETORICAL RHETORICAL - A very sweaty Windypops - Only a third of any organization is active, the rest are alts or people who can barely manage an hour a week - Only a third of the active players are active in war, the rest are weekend warriors that jump in when it suits them - Only a third of this standing force is any good at contributing to the war effort - Only a third of these core players might give a damn about which group they fight Meaning.. the wars between the south and the north and whoever else - its usually driven by one or two dozen people capitalizing on everyone else's desire to shoot anything. The only difference is that the core players up north aren't as good at organizing invasions, so they don't bother. Last time they made any serious proclamation that didn't fizzle and get written off as a weekend op was when they where so spooked they thought their immediate survival depended on keeping sustained pressure. That isn't the case here, so in general... the south is free to keep slapping them about when its convenient/funny, knowing fully they'll never return it in an equal way. The south also secretly enjoys it, as all abuse victims do - but don't say I told you. I could go further into detail but there would be a lot of butts hurt; instead I will deliciously decapitate this chocolate easter bunny I got from my mom.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.09 08:47:00 - [44] That's great, and very interesting DC but what animal would you be and why? Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 09:55:00 - [45] Can I be a wounded tiger?
Omeega Amarr Lethal Corp RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.04.09 10:22:00 - [46] drunk cavalery bear? Don't speak english, f1,f2,f3...
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2010.04.09 11:23:00 - [47] Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:53 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:07:03 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:06:48 Edited by: General Windypops on 08/04/2010 22:05:38 Originally by: Radgette Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 08/04/2010 20:28:17 Originally by: General Windypops hot hatch... turbo diesel... seconded next he will be saying it's a vauxfail or F.I.A.T ( anyone with motor trade exp will know what fiat stands for :P ) Yeah? Let's see who's laughing when I burn you off the lights, fly boy. Leather, heated seats too btw, and ipod docking station, and paint matched body kit. Only noobs don't understand that diesel engine have higher tork. Lol "tork". - Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust. Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Bongo Debbie Minmatar Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.04.09 11:43:00 - [48] Bellum beat me to it. I am a penguin. So sleek and aerodynamic. ----
Tung Yoggi Gallente Pulsar Inc. Cursed Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.09 13:00:00 - [49] Internet psychology at its finest.
JC X Gallente Victim Support	Posted - 2010.04.09 13:39:00 - [50] You guys are all going off topic.. No point in stating a diesel's BHP without a torque figure, 250-270?
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.04.09 13:57:00 - [51] Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 09/04/2010 02:09:54 Originally by: Orree ... Like I told you years ago, Orree. The difference between sheep and wolfs is that wolfs are out there doing the hunting, while sheep hide behind their dogs. Molle and other SC leaders are out there in their titans risking their **** all the time because they enjoy the hunt. Sheep leaders hide behind their members, giving propaganda speeches while their members are dying for them. I could never respect a leader that never shows up to a fight or shows up in a covert Op while telling his members to lay it on the line. ThatÆs the difference. I can agree with some of what you're saying here. I definitely don't disagree with your characterization of what constitutes a wolf and a sheep. I simply think it's a bit more complicated than this and that my experience on the other side is different than what a lot of you guys like to assume to be true. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.04.09 14:04:00 - [52] Originally by: DigitalCommunist RHETORICAL RHETORICAL RHETORICAL - A very sweaty Windypops - Only a third of any organization is active, the rest are alts or people who can barely manage an hour a week - Only a third of the active players are active in war, the rest are weekend warriors that jump in when it suits them - Only a third of this standing force is any good at contributing to the war effort - Only a third of these core players might give a damn about which group they fight Meaning.. the wars between the south and the north and whoever else - its usually driven by one or two dozen people capitalizing on everyone else's desire to shoot anything. The only difference is that the core players up north aren't as good at organizing invasions, so they don't bother. Last time they made any serious proclamation that didn't fizzle and get written off as a weekend op was when they where so spooked they thought their immediate survival depended on keeping sustained pressure. That isn't the case here, so in general... the south is free to keep slapping them about when its convenient/funny, knowing fully they'll never return it in an equal way. The south also secretly enjoys it, as all abuse victims do - but don't say I told you. I could go further into detail but there would be a lot of butts hurt; instead I will deliciously decapitate this chocolate easter bunny I got from my mom. I completely agree that the North isn't as good at organizing invasions. Once they get rolling, I think they have shown a fair amount of staying power, but I think it's pretty clear the preference is to sit behind the castle walls. I agree with a lot of what you're saying here. Well rendered. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Marcus Ratz Minmatar Ascendent. Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.04.09 14:27:00 - [53] I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob
Motseth Caldari dLx AAA Citizens	Posted - 2010.04.09 14:50:00 - [54] Originally by: DigitalCommunist I could go further into detail but there would be a lot of butts hurt; instead I will deliciously decapitate this chocolate easter bunny I got from my mom. I done that a few days ago, dont know why, never liked bugs bunny, the chocolate was good so it felt good to decapitate it and then eat him. Yes I need psychiatrist help.... Originally by: StainLessStealRat Because tiny girls cars need tork right?!?! unless your towing a jet ski then you can have your balls back lolol, good one, good one! Can I be a Parastratiosphecomyia stratiosphecomyioides? also known as Fly Now seriously, the EVE universe is controlled by a single entity, this entity have just a few members, they have meetings about where to lead the universe, who gets at war with who, this way they prevent other people from getting alliances strong and they continue to control everything, they are getting large ammounts of ingame isks that will make them virtually virtually (no its not by mistake the same word twice) indestructible. Their aim is to make us all their slaves one way or another. A lot of people bow to this people, they are their masters and they wish they can please them in any way they want, that is why they bow to them! Now seriously seriously, NC leaders probably been preparing for a new invasion of the north for a long time now, they got plenty of assets and isks ready to be deployed, lots of members, propaganda, and their leaders want to make another epic defense against "the forces of darkness" just like when that guy Sauron send an army to the middle land or whatever to conquer Randor or something. But then you see them losing half geminate and a few constellations in other places to alliances not nearly as strong as the SC, so maybe Im completely wrong and they are just a bunch of pussies.
Plague Black Caldari 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.04.09 15:02:00 - [55] Edited by: Plague Black on 09/04/2010 15:02:43 Originally by: Metal Dude Like I told you years ago, Orree. The difference between sheep and wolfs is that wolfs are out there doing the hunting, while sheep hide behind their dogs. Molle and other SC leaders are out there in their titans risking their **** all the time because they enjoy the hunt. Sheep leaders hide behind their members, giving propaganda speeches while their members are dying for them. I could never respect a leader that never shows up to a fight or shows up in a covert Op while telling his members to lay it on the line. ThatÆs the difference. Beeeeeeeeeee Welcome to north. Ninja edit: Almost forgot - BEST FRIENDS FOREVER!!!
Massive Dragon Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2010.04.09 15:09:00 - [56] Originally by: Plague Black Edited by: Plague Black on 09/04/2010 15:02:43 Originally by: Metal Dude Like I told you years ago, Orree. The difference between sheep and wolfs is that wolfs are out there doing the hunting, while sheep hide behind their dogs. Molle and other SC leaders are out there in their titans risking their **** all the time because they enjoy the hunt. Sheep leaders hide behind their members, giving propaganda speeches while their members are dying for them. I could never respect a leader that never shows up to a fight or shows up in a covert Op while telling his members to lay it on the line. ThatÆs the difference. Beeeeeeeeeee Welcome to north. Ninja edit: Almost forgot - BEST FRIENDS FOREVER!!! dont you mean "I AM THE FORUM ANGEL OF VENGENCE HEAR ME ROAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR" "I PROMISS YOU DESTRUCTION I AM AN FC!!! IM VERY IMPORTANT AND I AM 'THURRELY' SMARTER THAN THE REST OF YOU" also plague... could you explain the following to me? Plague Black > when you see minigin you report "idiot in system xy" Plague Black > or "jita undocker" Plague Black > or "pathetic loser" Plague Black > dont call him by name you sound mad bro? u mad? y u mad?
DigitalCommunist Gallente November Corporation	Posted - 2010.04.09 17:15:00 - [57] Oh thats easy, I would be a drama llama.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.09 18:35:00 - [58] Originally by: DigitalCommunist A very sweaty Windypops Dude, I'll have you know my hot hatch has built in aircon and electric windows, so I'm hardly sweaty Twitter:@genrlwindypops
Sebesto Minmatar Destination Unknown	Posted - 2010.04.09 20:05:00 - [59] Originally by: General Windypops 1. The Big Game: Players like Molle and Lilan Kahn who refuse to just be passengers on this ride. They stand up, grab history by the scruff of its neck, and they shake it until it submits to their will. Since when was Ushra'Khan a major player? I remember them running away when we used to show up back when I was in Widowmakers. Did things change since then? They some big time player? Sorry, been away from the game for like 1.5 years..
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.04.09 20:09:00 - [60] Edited by: General Windypops on 09/04/2010 20:09:42 Originally by: Sebesto Originally by: General Windypops 1. The Big Game: Players like Molle and Lilan Kahn who refuse to just be passengers on this ride. They stand up, grab history by the scruff of its neck, and they shake it until it submits to their will. Since when was Ushra'Khan a major player? I remember them running away when we used to show up back when I was in Widowmakers. Did things change since then? They some big time player? Sorry, been away from the game for like 1.5 years.. Then you'd better log in and evac your stuff from Providence. Welcome to DOMINIMON Twitter:@genrlwindypops

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