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Sir13
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:18:00 -
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I don't like to laugh at religion and people's beliefs because everyone believes in different things but why is it, when I ask a question that has no logical answer, people either dismiss the question, get angry or just say "look around you, how do you think we are able to breath, talk and think?" This is not an answer..... People all over the world are slowly losing their faith, if you do exist give the people a sign to say you're still here, take the sun away for a day or take away all the water from the oceans, but you won't, you expect people to put their entire faith in a book that was written thousands of years ago, when you have the power to turn the universe inside out? Yet you wonder why we question your existence? The thing is, humans believe fact over fiction and as it stands, science is kicking religion's ass. Science provides results and facts, your book provides us with nothing but a fascinating story. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:34:00 -
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My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Totalrx
NA No Assholes
Silver Twilight Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:34:00 -
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uhm, why are you posting questions to a deity that you apparently do not believe in? |
Xebulba
Czerka.
The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:42:00 -
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This sums it up nicely IMO.
Antz |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:48:00 -
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The latest religions are just another form of control over anything else, and a very scary form at that.
You give us a book that was written by people who were barely literate and revised many times over since then, then tell us its the truth.
We question the book and its phrases, and you tell us its not about the story but believing in something.
We choose to believe in something and we're told its the wrong thing and we'll go to hell for believing in it.
We ask what the point of free will is then if we really have no choice.
Its another fence to separate us from one another. Oh I'm sorry, you can't date X person because he's a Christian and we're Jewish. My bad, as a Catholic you can't be friends with that Muslim there because he wants to kill you. God may be a loving man but he sure can spread hate among his flock.
[Of course I know many of you will say "Well I'm friends with X and I'm X". Of course there are exceptions as there is with anything. Hell, I'm Catholic, one friend is Christian, and the other is Mormon, and yes we walked into a bar once.]
Personally I rather enjoy that we have to go through this little hell and earn our right past the gates to an eternity in heaven. I thought our heavenly father loved us and yet he puts us in this little disease ridden sinning cessbowl. Quite frankly by the time I get to those gates I'm going to be so sick of his **** that I'll end up refusing his gift of eternal life. Tell him to shove it up his ass and march on down to hell with all the other bitter vets. |
Sir13
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:53:00 -
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Totalrx wrote:uhm, why are you posting questions to a deity that you apparently do not believe in?
It isn't aimed towards "god" I've said "Show the people" show those that do believe basically.....
I don't believe in god but I won't say a god does not exist, just the same way I believe in other life forms in the universe but I won't say they exist, simply because I do not have proof so to say aliens do exist or god does not exist would be quite ignorant of me sinse no actual facts or scientific evidence proves it. |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2012.07.06 19:57:00 -
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This type of thread is against the rules of discussion fyi. Religious threads are not allowed on the Eve Online forums period. End of. No discussion.
Resident Haruhiist since December 2008. /OOPE/ Bittervet since 2006.
I lay my claim upon Out of Pod Experience, plain and simple. |
Sir13
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:01:00 -
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Blane Xero wrote:This type of thread is against the rules of discussion fyi. Religious threads are not allowed on the Eve Online forums period. End of. No discussion.
I was not aware of that, I do believe humans should be sensible and responsible enough to be able to have an open discussion about religion without people getting upset, I often find when you question a religious leader of islam or christianity or something that they either get abit upset because the question you've asked can't be answered or they will just answer you're question with a question.
something along those lines. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:04:00 -
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Sir13 wrote:Blane Xero wrote:This type of thread is against the rules of discussion fyi. Religious threads are not allowed on the Eve Online forums period. End of. No discussion. I was not aware of that, I do believe humans should be sensible and responsible enough to be able to have an open discussion about religion without people getting upset, I often find when you question a religious leader of islam or christianity or something that they either get abit upset because the question you've asked can't be answered or they will just answer you're question with a question. something along those lines.
You forget that you are on the internet. I'm forfeiting my bet by saying this but I gave it one page before the napalm came in. |
Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:04:00 -
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Yeah, it's just a matter-of-fact. CCP Hates having to moderate religious threads so they just aren't allowed, period. End of. Which is probably a smart decision, as Religion and Anonymity are not a good combination for a discussion.
Resident Haruhiist since December 2008. /OOPE/ Bittervet since 2006.
I lay my claim upon Out of Pod Experience, plain and simple. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:07:00 -
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Parents are willing to listen to Jenny McCarthy and not vaccinate their kids based on McCarthy's opinions.
Given how people are willing to believe just about anything despite a complete lack of evidence or in the face of evidence to the contrary, what does that tell you about how faith works in humans?
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Sir13
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:25:00 -
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One thing really bothers me about the topic of religion..... let's say that I go about my entire life not believing in god, but I'm a respectable person, I do good deeds, I help others and I'm generally an all round nice person. Now when I die, because I never believed in god all of those deeds will just be ignored and i'll be setenced to a firey pit of doom? Now I've flipped this right around because now it seems like god would be the unreasonable one?
If we were created with free will then it should be my choice whether to believe in god and I shouldn't be punished for not believing.... after all he only provided us with a book, well about 4 or 5 different books, which all claim they're the right one and the others are fake.
People like me who genuinely 100% without a shadow or a doubt do not believe in god know that they truely do not believe in god and you can't force yourself to believe in something, even if the punishment is enternal pain.
So again I flip it around and say, god, why did you create my brain so that I'm incapable of believing in you? |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.07.06 20:45:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon.
Made me laugh.
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Sir13
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.06 21:07:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon.
Even as a non-believer this is quite possibly the most ridiculous statement I've ever read lol although it did make me giggle. But if that really is your view then it's just ignorant of you, religions are not about violence at all, just the very select few like to make it that way.
Infact, if everyone in the world followed a religion as it was meant to be, they world would be stripped of violence, but then at the same time we would still be living in the dark ages lol. |
Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
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Posted - 2012.07.06 22:16:00 -
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Hi
Im Christian, but not church goer, not somone who is absesed with religion, i just believe in God, i have my own view on this spiritual spects, i dont like fanatics of any kind of religion even my own religion history got some bad and sad things who happens long time ago.
I realy love science and physics, im not against knowledge etc but still i beleve in God, one thing made me somtime sad, meny people still using stereotype and thinking, all religious people are against science and knowledge, they become form dark ages etc, this is wrong im not a witcher ! I can take even big bang theory as fact but behind this or even deeper in my opinion is God.
Teemo for president. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
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Posted - 2012.07.06 22:19:00 -
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Honest opinion? I'm not religious but I appreciate and tolerate pretty much every religion except for Islam and Scientology. |
Nirnias Stirrum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.06 22:46:00 -
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Personally i believe that the hole god and jesus thing was the best hoax anyone ever pulled.... very laughable really... people believing in an invisible man in the sky that watches you while your naked..
I dont know about you guys but i cant really perform with an audience.
Iv always just assumed those that choose to believe are uneducated fools with closed minds. queue the rage posts on that line im sure but meh, deal with it. I would love for a proven fact of anything that "god" or the bible has ever provided for the human race.
Theres only one thing i believe in and that is science. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.06 23:00:00 -
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Science is alright, but its too far liberal, that is why religion hates it.
I was taking chemical engineering in college, and if I knew how far liberal it would go, I propably wouldn't have tried.
Only study for engineering if you are a minority, or a very wierd white guy, otherwise you won't be liberal enough for it.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
jason hill
The Riot Formation
Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.07.06 23:01:00 -
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ahhh religion .... we in briton know it as the NHS ... there is no other religion in th UK other than the NHS . |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.07.06 23:09:00 -
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Cloned S0ul wrote:Hi
Im Christian, but not church goer, not somone who is absesed with religion.
I knew someone who was absesed with region...
But he got it lanced. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2012.07.07 00:03:00 -
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Sir13 wrote:Alpheias wrote:My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon. Even as a non-believer this is quite possibly the most ridiculous statement I've ever read lol although it did make me giggle. But if that really is your view then it's just ignorant of you, religions are not about violence at all, just the very select few like to make it that way. Infact, if everyone in the world followed a religion as it was meant to be, they world would be stripped of violence, but then at the same time we would still be living in the dark ages lol.
Well, if you got it into your head that there is a invisible man, all-seeing and all-aware, and you believe that, I fully believe that you are capable of anything to please your secret friend. Violence included.
Having rational thoughts not so much.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies
I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Fiona Ballbuster
Red Scorpion Nr. 9
0
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Posted - 2012.07.07 00:44:00 -
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d |
Fiona Ballbuster
Red Scorpion Nr. 9
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Posted - 2012.07.07 00:45:00 -
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Fiona Ballbuster wrote:[quote=Alpheias]My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon.
Religion and science is man made. No truth in either. My advice. Live happy and die. |
Fiona Ballbuster
Red Scorpion Nr. 9
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Posted - 2012.07.07 00:46:00 -
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nvm
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.07 00:51:00 -
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Fiona Ballbuster wrote:Fiona Ballbuster wrote:[quote=Alpheias]My views? Religion flies us into buildings, science flies us to the moon. Religion and science is man made. No truth in either. My advice. Live happy and die.
Not really true, unless your mormon or scientologist. ( Sadly that might be more racist then truth.)
Bible shows God coming to abraham first, not the other way around.
Also man did not create the galaxy, so science doesn't really come from man as well.
Only reverse-engineering comes from man.
Don't reverse-engineer, live happy and die.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Nachteule Kohen
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:10:00 -
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well for the above post, just because science didn't create the galaxy, doesn't mean god did either. nature has no consciousness.
the reason why i am atheist is because i am also a transhumanist, in the age where mankind evolves into cyborgs and becomes immortal god will have no place nor say. when there will be a time where our species evolves into gods capable of replicating entire planets, god won't be missed.
religion is cool for video games like warcraft, but for reality it doesn't work out. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
556
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Posted - 2012.07.07 01:47:00 -
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^ If that is refered to me, I never said anything about who created the galaxy, I left it blank, since I don't know who did. Only stated that man didn't create it. Suppose I never proved it, but seems our bones only go so far back and were pretty primitive. Kind of makes sense.
Also only stated, man didn't create science. Suppose that is wierd. Mostly meant science comes form the universe's laws, and since man didn't create the universe or those laws. Did we really create science?
Also, overpowered shaman.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Fiona Ballbuster
Red Scorpion Nr. 9
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Posted - 2012.07.07 02:19:00 -
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Nachteule Kohen wrote:well for the above post, just because science didn't create the galaxy, doesn't mean god did either. nature has no consciousness.
the reason why i am atheist is because i am also a transhumanist, in the age where mankind evolves into cyborgs and becomes immortal god will have no place nor say. when there will be a time where our species evolves into gods capable of replicating entire planets, god won't be missed.
religion is cool for video games like warcraft, but for reality it doesn't work out.
And if it were meant for me. I didn't state who created the galaxy either. Just that you should stop taking peoples bs as universal truths and live happy and then die... |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.07 02:26:00 -
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^ I don't think CCP enjoys you starting a religion on their forums.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Acot Voth
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.07 02:26:00 -
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When someone can explain the sun issues to me I may consider the faith.
God made the sun, and it kills us. Quickly if we lay in it for days. Slowly with cancer over time. Someday it will burn outd all of earth will die, so was it all just a dead end road or a sick joke? |
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