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Delvega The Geedunk Expedition 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 04:55:00 - [1] - Quote This is an alt obviously. So my alliance is running non stop 24/7 mandatory participation CTA around the clock. Nobody is allowed to go ratting or anything except fight. Tax rate has been at 100% for a LONG time now. The alliance even has a mandate to shoot and pod anyone not participating in the mandatory CTA. Its not an isolated case of a bad nullsec alliance either. EVERY nullsec alliance I've ever been in does this. I'm told that this is common and standard procedure for all nullsec alliances. If that's the case, then how do I make money in nullsec? Everytime I move to nullsec I end up losing money instead of making any due to the above. At this rate I think I should've stayed in highsec. At least in highsec I had isk income, albeit small income. I'm sick of getting threatened and screamed at on coms by our FC's (makes the 50dkp guy sound mild in comparison). Maybe I should just find another game?
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 163	Posted - 2012.07.07 05:33:00 - [2] - Quote One simple solution: Switch the Alliance.
Delvega The Geedunk Expedition 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 05:40:00 - [3] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: One simple solution: Switch the Alliance. This is happening in EVERY nullsec alliance I join, as the main post states.
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 163	Posted - 2012.07.07 06:13:00 - [4] - Quote Delvega wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: One simple solution: Switch the Alliance. This is happening in EVERY nullsec alliance I join, as the main post states. I know at least 14 different Alliances who don't have any CTAs.
Delvega The Geedunk Expedition 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 06:17:00 - [5] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: I know at least 14 different Alliances who don't have any CTAs. Oh? You know at least 14 nullsec alliances that don't have CTA's? Please, do share.
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 163	Posted - 2012.07.07 07:18:00 - [6] - Quote Delvega wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: I know at least 14 different Alliances who don't have any CTAs. Oh? You know at least 14 nullsec alliances that don't have CTA's? Please, do share. Goonswarm Federation Convicted Tactical Narcotics Team Test Alliance Please Ignore Razor Alliance Fidelas Constans Fatal Ascension The 99 Percent The Aurora Shadow SpaceMonkey's Alliance Executive Outcomes Pandemic Legion Get Off My Lawn Gentlement's Agreement They all have no or very infrequent CTAs.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 338	Posted - 2012.07.07 07:42:00 - [7] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: Delvega wrote: Luba Cibre wrote: I know at least 14 different Alliances who don't have any CTAs. Oh? You know at least 14 nullsec alliances that don't have CTA's? Please, do share. Goonswarm Federation C0NVICTED Tactical Narcotics Team Test Alliance Please Ignore Test Friends Please Ignore Razor Alliance Fidelas Constans Fatal Ascension The 99 Percent The Aurora Shadow SpaceMonkey's Alliance Executive Outcomes Pandemic Legion Get Off My Lawn Gentlement's Agreement They all have no or very infrequent CTAs. I think it's possible to get in one of the 477 corps... PL isn't really a nullsec alliance anymore. All the others are part of CFC. As for OP, switch alliance. And you just joined all rubbish alliances who can't defend their space and cause of that they need to call CTAs every single time. Also some nullsec regions tend to be more hostile (Geminate for example) then others. But there are plenty of alliances who don't call CTAs every single minute of EvE, though being in SOV nullsec means there is always the possibility to get one to defend your space. Not defending means no space. No space means no more ISK making. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 163	Posted - 2012.07.07 08:11:00 - [8] - Quote J'Poll wrote: PL isn't really a nullsec alliance anymore. PL stages out of nullsec atm, they've initiated Delve2012, they have even sov in delve and participated in most other major conflicts in nullsec, but yea, PL is clearly a lowsec scrub alliance. Quote: All the others are part of CFC. That's correct for most of the Aliances (99% and TASHA aren't in the CFC), but doesn't affect my previous statement in any way.
Sugar Kyle The humbleless Crew Capital Punishment. 62	Posted - 2012.07.07 08:46:00 - [9] - Quote OP, why would you stay past finding the 100% tax rate and being screamed at? Don't forget that you are paying your sub. It may just require more research or working into alliances more through recommendations from people you have met or something. Don't know, but it sounds terrible.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 338	Posted - 2012.07.07 08:54:00 - [10] - Quote Luba Cibre wrote: J'Poll wrote: PL isn't really a nullsec alliance anymore. PL stages out of nullsec atm, they've initiated Delve2012, they have even sov in delve and participated in most other major conflicts in nullsec, but yea, PL is clearly a lowsec scrub alliance. Quote: All the others are part of CFC. That's correct for most of the Aliances (99% and TASHA aren't in the CFC), but doesn't affect my previous statement in any way. PL are hired guns, they are null-sec but don't perma live in a space. They more where ever their contract makes them move. Seen them in the old NC war, seen them in the Drone Russian war, now they are in Delve. And TASHA and 99 are pets / minions / renter / what ever of TEST, means they are part of the CFC cause of their overlords Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 338	Posted - 2012.07.07 08:56:00 - [11] - Quote Sugar Kyle wrote: OP, why would you stay past finding the 100% tax rate and being screamed at? Don't forget that you are paying your sub. It may just require more research or working into alliances more through recommendations from people you have met or something. Don't know, but it sounds terrible. This. If you hate the alliance you are in, why do you stick around. EVE is a game, EVE is paid by your money Following those 2 statements, EVE should be played the way YOU have fun playing it. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Luba Cibre Global Song Setup 165	Posted - 2012.07.07 09:52:00 - [12] - Quote J'Poll wrote: PL are hired guns, they are null-sec but don't perma live in a space. They more where ever their contract makes them move. Seen them in the old NC war, seen them in the Drone Russian war, now they are in Delve. You can't hire PL anymore and even in the past were contract more for the amusement of the membership than a needed income source. Quote: And true your list doesn't have must CTAs but then again, most people don't want anything to do with players who are part / were part of the CFC. So what, the OP asked for alliances without or less CTAs and i told him viable alternatives, because he didn't specified any alignements.
Forum Clone 77777 State War Academy Caldari State 32	Posted - 2012.07.07 13:06:00 - [13] - Quote OP could you tell us what alliance(s) youve been in so far? Seems pretty terrible, Id like to know :o
Keno Skir Vectis Systems 149	Posted - 2012.07.07 14:25:00 - [14] - Quote Can someone nice link me all the EVE related (not wow please ) funny fc rage videos and other similar eve videos? Cheers :D The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why?
Java'0 Nvidia's Pilots N O V A 0	Posted - 2012.07.07 14:43:00 - [15] - Quote buy a jump freighter and resupply market mods/ammo and fitted ships on alliance contract to replace the one's they are losing in cta at 15% above jita, your make money and doing so will help your alliance
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 338	Posted - 2012.07.07 16:18:00 - [16] - Quote Keno Skir wrote: Can someone nice link me all the EVE related (not wow please ) funny fc rage videos and other similar eve videos? Cheers :D Search Youtube for - Shadoo - Crazy Aussie should give you some nice videos Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Lukriss Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 39	Posted - 2012.07.07 18:22:00 - [17] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Keno Skir wrote: Can someone nice link me all the EVE related (not wow please ) funny fc rage videos and other similar eve videos? Cheers :D Search Youtube for - Shadoo - Crazy Aussie should give you some nice videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-kGGW0UlPA
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 339	Posted - 2012.07.07 19:17:00 - [18] - Quote Lukriss wrote: J'Poll wrote: Keno Skir wrote: Can someone nice link me all the EVE related (not wow please ) funny fc rage videos and other similar eve videos? Cheers :D Search Youtube for - Shadoo - Crazy Aussie should give you some nice videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-kGGW0UlPA And here are the crazy aussie videos: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDt7oXX17dg&feature=channel Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3TpJZVOUdo Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Khanh'rhh 1378	Posted - 2012.07.07 21:14:00 - [19] - Quote Delvega wrote: Its not an isolated case of a bad nullsec alliance either. EVERY nullsec alliance I've ever been in does this This means you're bad at evaluating your future corps and alliances. Very few will do this, since member retention becomes a massive issue. I honestly think you're trolling, or trying to vastly exaggerate the issue. For instance, I can't find a single corp on dotlan in the top 30alliances with a tax rate over 20%, though I will admit I only spent a handful of minutes looking. Certainly, it was not "all of them" though -- and most of the ones I looked at are involved in the current Deklein conflict. Having said that, and assuming you want to stay, you can make a lot of money by seeding markets in the regions your alliance is warring in. Should be easy if you're flying a doctrine setup. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's
Lord Arakkis Knights of Illusion SquarePig Transport Empire 4	Posted - 2012.07.07 22:53:00 - [20] - Quote Sugar Kyle wrote: OP, why would you stay past finding the 100% tax rate and being screamed at? Don't forget that you are paying your sub. It may just require more research or working into alliances more through recommendations from people you have met or something. Don't know, but it sounds terrible. This. Id have a really hard time NOT telling those guys to twist one.... Say what you want about forums and trolls, EVE forums have been good to me
Zoe Athame Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 95	Posted - 2012.07.08 09:51:00 - [21] - Quote Instead of bashing 0.0 alliances, how about you ask yourself why you're in a 0.0 alliance. A good alliance will provide you with ships for warfare so why do you need ISK so desperately? If you'd rather farm ISK instead of participate in fleets, you don't belong in nullsec.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 340	Posted - 2012.07.08 18:17:00 - [22] - Quote Zoe Athame wrote: Instead of bashing 0.0 alliances, how about you ask yourself why you're in a 0.0 alliance. A good alliance will provide you with ships for warfare so why do you need ISK so desperately? If you'd rather farm ISK instead of participate in fleets, you don't belong in nullsec. Actually very, very true. Being in a SOV null-sec alliance means you agree with the fact that you have to PvP, you agree with the fact others might take your space and you need CTAs to defend it. If you want massive ISK farming, SOV null-sec is not the place to be. It has great ways to make ISK but like in EVE there is Risk vs Reward. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Delvega The Geedunk Expedition 0	Posted - 2012.07.08 18:25:00 - [23] - Quote J'Poll wrote: If you want massive ISK farming, SOV null-sec is not the place to be. I found this particular statement highly discouraging. I'm not adverse to PvP, but ever since I moved back out to nullsec all I've done is lose money. Ship replacement in my alliance is a joke as it's often either delayed indefinitely or outright denied. I guess highsec really is the place to be, as nullsec just sucks.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 340	Posted - 2012.07.08 18:30:00 - [24] - Quote Delvega wrote: J'Poll wrote: If you want massive ISK farming, SOV null-sec is not the place to be. I found this particular statement highly discouraging. I'm not adverse to PvP, but ever since I moved back out to nullsec all I've done is lose money. Ship replacement in my alliance is a joke as it's often either delayed indefinitely or outright denied. I guess highsec really is the place to be, as nullsec just sucks. That depends on which alliances you joined in the past. Not every alliance is as bad as the ones you joined. Also, posting which alliance you did join / am in now would help a lot as we could see where you are and why it is that you have trouble. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Delvega The Geedunk Expedition 0	Posted - 2012.07.08 23:57:00 - [25] - Quote J'Poll wrote: Also, posting which alliance you did join / am in now would help a lot as we could see where you are and why it is that you have trouble. I can't do that quite yet until I get my stuff out as I have no doubt there would be some form of retaliation. BTW the tax rate has dropped down to normal levels, but we're still not allowed to rat while there's a CTA going on, which is going on 24/7.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 662	Posted - 2012.07.09 02:41:00 - [26] - Quote I really can't fathom how can people (OP, but also other members of his alliance) stand being in an alliance with a) mandatory CTAs under threat of being kicked, and b) punishment for trying to leave. That's not an alliance, that's slavery! A vast majority of nullsec doesn't do this. You really just chose the wrong people.
Mallak Azaria 284	Posted - 2012.07.09 02:49:00 - [27] - Quote Join a corp with a lower tax rate & find yourself some quiet nullsec space to rat in.
Mallak Azaria 284	Posted - 2012.07.09 02:50:00 - [28] - Quote Delvega wrote: J'Poll wrote: Also, posting which alliance you did join / am in now would help a lot as we could see where you are and why it is that you have trouble. I can't do that quite yet until I get my stuff out as I have no doubt there would be some form of retaliation. BTW the tax rate has dropped down to normal levels, but we're still not allowed to rat while there's a CTA going on, which is going on 24/7. Firesale your stuff, move out & leave. What can they do?
Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 62	Posted - 2012.07.09 03:02:00 - [29] - Quote Delvega wrote: I can't do that quite yet until I get my stuff out as I have no doubt there would be some form of retaliation. If you could easily make most of the stuff back if you were operating at say an 11% tax rate... likewise, if there isn't anything worth the time or the hassle... IMO try to be a little more choosy when picking an alliance. Ask questions. Try to find a list of members and ask some of the people in it about the alliance I mean if they had 100% tax rate it sounds like either they were doing something very wrong or the head of your corp just wanted some extra cash for buying himself and his alts a plex or whatever. Also, why don't you guys have any manufacturing or mining OPs going on so you don't have to buy 100% of everything you need? Sounds like the leader is doing it wrong. The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers. My Blog-á (feedback welcome)
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 340	Posted - 2012.07.09 06:58:00 - [30] - Quote Delvega wrote: J'Poll wrote: Also, posting which alliance you did join / am in now would help a lot as we could see where you are and why it is that you have trouble. I can't do that quite yet until I get my stuff out as I have no doubt there would be some form of retaliation. BTW the tax rate has dropped down to normal levels, but we're still not allowed to rat while there's a CTA going on, which is going on 24/7. And how would they link your main to your alt if you listed the alliance(s). Unless they are really small and you are really terribad at hiding your alts. E: I find posting with an alt, specially if it comes to whine about something in EVE, pathetic and the most cowardly thing you can do. Shows exactly what type of player is behind the characters, if you want to whine, have the balls and do it with your main and live with the consequences or don't whine at all. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction

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