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CCP Adida	Posted - 2010.04.13 14:29:00 - [31] Moved from General Discussion. Although it is EVE related talking about other games is only allowed here in OOP :) Yes even to find people who quit those other games. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Cridu Chat	Posted - 2010.04.13 14:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Mr Kidd All incarnations of Star Trek in the form of games have been huge disappointments. From the time I played Star Trek games when I was a kid through to now, they've all been disappointments. So, don't feel bad. Star Trek Voyager Elite Force wasn't really that bad. For the time it was a nice FPS game. It's propably not a good idea to play it nowadays. The graphics look pretty bad i would imagine. But it was the only Star Trek game, that i liked over the years.
Rytha Main	Posted - 2010.04.13 15:12:00 - [33] Edited by: Rytha Main on 13/04/2010 15:13:34 Originally by: Mr Reeth Is STO really that bad or have you all just been spoiled by Eve? BTW Birth of the Federation kicked ass! Probably both. EVE is a great game across the board, while STO stinks across the board. And yes, I played BotF A LOT, it was one of my favorite games. It would have been fantastic had they continued to develop it, and had it not been for the horrible memory leak! As for the other comments, I probably won't ragequit EVE. I had my first lick of danger not to long ago, but someone was in the system and rescued me from the pirates. Sent me running back to high sec with my tail tucked between my legs, but jeez... you don't get that heart thumping adrenaline in other games. People over at the STO forums justify the negativity on their forums by saying "all MMO forums are like this. All the QQ'ers and whiners go to the forums to complain" but that doesn't seem to be the case here. For the most part, I'd say people just want to construct a better EVE and are so far happy with what has gone into it so far. Originally by: Culmen Welcome to Eve: The Sandbox with land mines. For all the smack you get the forum just remember: "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but pulse lasers will vaporize my ship" All aside though, Eve is about a 180 degrees from STO, theres going to be a massive adjustment, many won't make it. Hope you do. Massive adjustment to STO or to EVE.... and what do you mean?
Orree Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.04.13 15:26:00 - [34] I'm part of a group of people that came over to EVE from Star Fleet Command II and Orion Pirates (ST game based upon Star Fleet Battles from Task Force Games). It was over six years ago and I had played the various versions of SFC for about 6 years before that. I played SFB for many years dating back to the early '80s. While SFC was a disappointment in many respects, it was still a very good game and almost what us old SFBers wanted. I was ready for a new Star Trek combat game and I was predisposed to want to like ST:O. Fast forward to ST: Online and the early reports about it late last year. A lot of my old SFC buddies more or less put their EVE careers on autopilot while they went over to that game for beta and then the release. I didn't go. When I looked at that game, it seemed to me to be what DigitalCommunist said...basically a tired re-hash with ST clothes on. I figured it might be mildly entertaining (mainly because it would be fun to fly with my old fleetmates from SFC), but the game had no legs and nothing to keep me interested. I figured I be wasting a month or two on and then drop it. My fleetmates that went to go play are trickling back to EVE now having already maxed out their characters (both Feds and Klingons) and having exhausted the meager content. It looks like I made the right choice in not wasting my time with it. To you ST:O refugees trying out EVE, welcome! Give it time. You get out of it what you put into it. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Zedic Amarr Universalis Imperium	Posted - 2010.04.13 16:28:00 - [35] Anyone remember Earth and Beyond? God I loved that game. I played it around the time that Eve was in beta (I think?) and was in the late beta for Eve. Anywho, the only way a Star Trek MMO will ever be good is if CCP does it. The rest of the dev houses aren't worthy and should stop trying. SWG was a good idea, (beta'ed that too). Was invited to beta the space flight expansion and didn't bother. Again, SWG might have worked if CCP was doing. Not long after I quit I noticed a late night TV infomercial for SWG. I **** you not. We're talking, "only $19.95, operators are standing by!" type commercial. Sad really. "Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima
Leppy Eleven	Posted - 2010.04.13 18:50:00 - [36] STO can't come close to this Game, I didn't "get" Eve to begin with. There were no constraints, just ruthless anarchy and a struggle to get out of noobdom. so I quit and went to STO it was mildly entertaining until i ran out of content- then I thought whats the point? I might as well be mining asteroids- especially since I read up on the new release where i can have territory to develope! I am stunned to hear about Dust being integrated within eve an that I can hire Mercenaries to hit my enemies.
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.04.13 21:37:00 - [37] Originally by: Mr Reeth Is STO really that bad or have you all just been spoiled by Eve? BTW Birth of the Federation kicked ass! BoTF did indeed kick ass, it was like master of orion (except a bit simpler and more star trekky)
Rytha Main	Posted - 2010.04.14 08:47:00 - [38] Originally by: Zedic Anyone remember Earth and Beyond? God I loved that game. I played it around the time that Eve was in beta (I think?) and was in the late beta for Eve. Anywho, the only way a Star Trek MMO will ever be good is if CCP does it. The rest of the dev houses aren't worthy and should stop trying. SWG was a good idea, (beta'ed that too). Was invited to beta the space flight expansion and didn't bother. Again, SWG might have worked if CCP was doing. Not long after I quit I noticed a late night TV infomercial for SWG. I **** you not. We're talking, "only $19.95, operators are standing by!" type commercial. Sad really. A lot of people say they really liked Earth and Beyond, but I hadn't heard about it around the time it was out. What was so good about it?
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2010.04.14 11:56:00 - [39] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Mr Reeth Is STO really that bad or have you all just been spoiled by Eve? BTW Birth of the Federation kicked ass! BoTF did indeed kick ass, it was like master of orion (except a bit simpler and more star trekky) For those of you looking for BotF, there is BotF2 called Star Trek Supremacy in development. It's taking a while, probably wont be out before 2011, but you can download the Beta versions here. _________________________________ ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Victor Valka Caldari Preta Light Industries Naraka.	Posted - 2010.04.14 15:15:00 - [40] The amusement derived from this thread increases exponentially with time spent in EVE. For me, HIGHLY amusing. Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.

Genei	Posted - 2010.04.14 15:35:00 - [41] Seriously, no mention of Starfleet Command up through Orion Pirates? That's of course not including SC3. But yes, BoTF was a nice game. And the Elite Forces games were entertaining... for FPS's. Eve still pwnes them all.
Vossejongk Caldari Bendebeukers Green Rhino	Posted - 2010.04.14 18:58:00 - [42] Originally by: Mr Kidd All incarnations of Star Trek in the form of games have been huge disappointments. From the time I played Star Trek games when I was a kid through to now, they've all been disappointments. So, don't feel bad. Hey, I liked Star Trek Armada I and II alot !! But then again I cant really approve of any of this because this is my signature
Mashie Saldana Red Federation	Posted - 2010.04.14 22:52:00 - [43] Originally by: Rytha Main I wanted to know if there are any other Star Trek Online refugees who have left and came over to EVE. I've read several times on their forums of people leaving to try EVE. So, guessing that there might be a lot of STO refugee nooBs, it'd be cool to hook up and fly together. Thanks EVE. You're quality. Just read this little guide and you will live long and prosper in EVE.
Olleybear I R' Carebear	Posted - 2010.04.15 00:56:00 - [44] Originally by: Zedic Anywho, the only way a Star Trek MMO will ever be good is if CCP does it. The rest of the dev houses aren't worthy and should stop trying. I agree. The reason I agree is that, in my opinion from everything I've seen, the man at the top cares about Eve. Sure, he cares about making a living to just like the rest of us, but you dont get quality anything without caring. Some of the things that prove it to me: Expansions I dont have to shell out $30 for, PVP alliance matches 'aired' over the net, Work hard for balanced gameplay, No 'Customer Lockin' ( ie, they dont make it as expensive as possible to leave them in order to keep customers, unlike my cellphone provider, dsl privider, etc ), They dont send out DMCA notices to fan websites, Actually helped and ecouraged the production of the 2nd Clear Skies movie, Didn't send the company lawyers after the guy that made the 1st Clear Skies movie, They dont kick us out of Eve for spending 23hours a day in eve by claiming we are using up more resources than the avg eve player ( ie, the US health industry when they stop your health insurance when you need it most ), .... I think you get the picture. Eve is a wonderfull game because the people running the company aren't clowns looking for the most profit at the expense of their customer base. <<< Just because your pet likes you, that does not mean you are a good person. >>>
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.15 01:49:00 - [45] Originally by: Olleybear Originally by: Zedic Anywho, the only way a Star Trek MMO will ever be good is if CCP does it. The rest of the dev houses aren't worthy and should stop trying. I agree. The reason I agree is that, in my opinion from everything I've seen, the man at the top cares about Eve. Sure, he cares about making a living to just like the rest of us, but you dont get quality anything without caring. I was watching some really old EVE pre-release interviews some days ago, there's one from 2002 - it shows the original CCP office which was little more than a cramped house, the development team which was really only a few people and the CEO who seemed to think the project was overambitious and crazy, but stuck with it anyway through some really hard times financially. I thought this game would be dead by 2005, but 5 years later it's alive, kicking and still taking in new subscribers. Most MMOs that come out nowadays are really just fast cash-grabs with no real hope of lasting more than a year. Games like Warhammer and ST:O probably aren't going to be picking up many subs these days, but rather slowly losing them 'til there's nobody left, which is exactly what you don't want from your MMO. Nobody wants to board a sinking ship after all... - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Slightly Green	Posted - 2010.04.15 04:09:00 - [46] Originally by: Mr Kidd All incarnations of Star Trek in the form of games have been huge disappointments. A Final Unity was pretty good - though honestly we're going back a long way here, so good luck finding a machine it'll run on... and I keep hearing good things about Bridge Commander, though I've never even seen it running. Don't despair too much. If push comes to shove, there's always the original "Mr Spock Drinks Tizer" ASCII game from the 1980s. I must've blown so many hours on that as a kid. S. Dark Towers
Slightly Green	Posted - 2010.04.15 04:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Mr Reeth Is STO really that bad or have you all just been spoiled by Eve? BTW Birth of the Federation kicked ass! BoTF did indeed kick ass, it was like master of orion (except a bit simpler and more star trekky) ... and buggy as hell, with crappy combat mechanics... but yeah, I did enjoy that, I'd have to admit. Reinstalled it for a quick bash just the other week, in fact. Doesn't like my new PC however, and kept crashing, alas. I loved Masters of Orion II though... and that does still work on my new computer. What a crushing disappointment Masters of Orion III was though. People who complain about Eve being like playing a spreadsheet should try that one just to see how good they've got it here. S. Dark Towers
Xen Gin Silurian Operations	Posted - 2010.04.15 12:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Slightly Green Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Mr Reeth Is STO really that bad or have you all just been spoiled by Eve? BTW Birth of the Federation kicked ass! BoTF did indeed kick ass, it was like master of orion (except a bit simpler and more star trekky) ... and buggy as hell, with crappy combat mechanics... but yeah, I did enjoy that, I'd have to admit. Reinstalled it for a quick bash just the other week, in fact. Doesn't like my new PC however, and kept crashing, alas. There a BotF XP patch, it unofficial, but it works, an I think it works with Vista/7 XP compatability mode. http://www.startrek-gamers.com/downloads/index.php?act=category&id=38 _________________________________ ## You got that? Right I'll be back in approximately 300 seconds to retort! ##
Joe Burns	Posted - 2010.04.18 17:04:00 - [49] So i'm not the only STO Refugee?
Thargat Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 17:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Joe Burns So i'm not the only STO Refugee? Refugee ey? Well now you've gotta work them mines for me or I'm telling the authorities. One billion isk up front will also do, I think I might have a Caldari greencard laying about. Necroing the old 0.0 thread

AdmiralJohn The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 18:02:00 - [51] We should make a Camp Refoogee \o/
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2010.04.18 19:31:00 - [52] Heh, if CCP ran STO people wouldn't be able to join The Federation, Klingon Empire, Cardassian Alliance or any other. We'd all be just independent contractors... actually that sounds pretty awesome.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.04.18 22:15:00 - [53] Originally by: Napro I seriously hope STO rejects dont start popping up here. Just looking at the amount of whining on their forums makes my head hurt The ones whining the hardest are the ones least suitable for Eve Want to test a supercap on Sisi but don't have one? look here
Rytha Main	Posted - 2010.04.21 04:40:00 - [54] Originally by: Rawr Cristina Originally by: Olleybear Originally by: Zedic Anywho, the only way a Star Trek MMO will ever be good is if CCP does it. The rest of the dev houses aren't worthy and should stop trying. I agree. The reason I agree is that, in my opinion from everything I've seen, the man at the top cares about Eve. Sure, he cares about making a living to just like the rest of us, but you dont get quality anything without caring. I was watching some really old EVE pre-release interviews some days ago, there's one from 2002 - it shows the original CCP office which was little more than a cramped house, the development team which was really only a few people and the CEO who seemed to think the project was overambitious and crazy, but stuck with it anyway through some really hard times financially. I thought this game would be dead by 2005, but 5 years later it's alive, kicking and still taking in new subscribers. Most MMOs that come out nowadays are really just fast cash-grabs with no real hope of lasting more than a year. Games like Warhammer and ST:O probably aren't going to be picking up many subs these days, but rather slowly losing them 'til there's nobody left, which is exactly what you don't want from your MMO. Nobody wants to board a sinking ship after all... Seriously. This is a very special game. 7 years in, and the rookie/nooB areas are still populated with new pilots. Just yesterday there were over 2000 in the Rookie Channel. Not sure how many of those were veterans and who was not, but seriously... it just goes to show a) how helpful this community can be and b) how healthy this game is in terms of growth. I am very satisified with this game. I do wonder however, how it was received at its launch. People try to justify the recent smattering of shoddy launches of MMO's by major game studios saying that "all MMO's have these problems", but somehow I doubt that EVE had the same problems/growing pains as Star Trek Online has had. But correct me if I am wrong by all means.
Caroll Yanaki Gallente Stir Crazy Research and Manufacturing Opticon Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.21 15:12:00 - [55] If I may... As a relatively fanatic "trekkie" I too had high hopes for Star Trek online. And probably that was the problem. When you: 1. Are a fanatic Star Trek fan who is ready to kill if there is a slightest deviation from the story's canon... 2. Are playing EVE Online which is, no doubt, "The Sh*t" in the MMORPG universe... you are doomed to be disappointed by the level of immersion STO gives you. I talked to other people and we all think that the people who are true and hardcore "trekkies" will never forgive the thing STO devs created. But... if you are not that commited and exacting, you could be, at some level, pleased by the game. Just accept it for the thing it is - a lightweight arcade adventure which doesn't require you to spend too much time or efforts in it. If you can't - don't judge it, it won't get any better. I think that STO devs made a little too preliminary launch. Probably because they couldn't get into a deadline? But let's hope that STO will get better in time. It has its place in the MMORPG universe.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.21 16:37:00 - [56] Let them come... the tears form their quitting will be just as delicious as the next. If some stay, then all the better.
DasDizzy Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.04.21 23:09:00 - [57] Originally by: CCP Adida Moved from General Discussion. Although it is EVE related talking about other games is only allowed here in OOP :) Yes even to find people who quit those other games. Wouldn't talking about other games be in violation of: Rule <Insert Arbitrary Number Here>? Just sayin'
Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.22 14:44:00 - [58] Originally by: Orree I'm part of a group of people that came over to EVE from Star Fleet Command II and Orion Pirates (ST game based upon Star Fleet Battles from Task Force Games). It was over six years ago and I had played the various versions of SFC for about 6 years before that. I played SFB for many years dating back to the early '80s. While SFC was a disappointment in many respects, it was still a very good game and almost what us old SFBers wanted. I was ready for a new Star Trek combat game and I was predisposed to want to like ST:O. Fast forward to ST: Online and the early reports about it late last year. A lot of my old SFC buddies more or less put their EVE careers on autopilot while they went over to that game for beta and then the release. I didn't go. When I looked at that game, it seemed to me to be what DigitalCommunist said...basically a tired re-hash with ST clothes on. I figured it might be mildly entertaining (mainly because it would be fun to fly with my old fleetmates from SFC), but the game had no legs and nothing to keep me interested. I figured I be wasting a month or two on and then drop it. My fleetmates that went to go play are trickling back to EVE now having already maxed out their characters (both Feds and Klingons) and having exhausted the meager content. It looks like I made the right choice in not wasting my time with it. To you ST:O refugees trying out EVE, welcome! Give it time. You get out of it what you put into it. SFC2 is by far one of my favourite trek games. In fact i still play OP now although i never really got into the dynaverse stuff.
Orree Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.04.22 17:47:00 - [59] Originally by: Firkragg Originally by: Orree I'm part of a group of people that came over to EVE from Star Fleet Command II and Orion Pirates (ST game based upon Star Fleet Battles from Task Force Games). It was over six years ago and I had played the various versions of SFC for about 6 years before that. I played SFB for many years dating back to the early '80s. While SFC was a disappointment in many respects, it was still a very good game and almost what us old SFBers wanted. I was ready for a new Star Trek combat game and I was predisposed to want to like ST:O. <snip> SFC2 is by far one of my favourite trek games. In fact i still play OP now although i never really got into the dynaverse stuff. Same here. I haven't played it at all in the last 4 years or so, but I think about it frequently and remember the fun. I spent a lot of time in Dynaverse play, but also did some ladder play. I was in the Klingon Black Fleet (KBF) pretty much the whole time I played and towards the end of my time in the game, I became a member of XenoCorp (XC), as well. For those that have mentioned BotF...I played that one for a while, too. Buggy but fun... ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli


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