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knentil
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: knentil on 14/04/2010 04:33:28
The goal here is to get it cap stable and still have a very uber armor tank.
Now I was looking at this fit at battleclinic.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/7480-hurricane-pve.html
But even with T2 cap regen rigs its still not stable in EFT, even with a 5% regn implant i don't think its stable.
So why do they say its perma stable?
I have something similar in mind.
Lows:
four rat specific T2 active hardeners
one T2 medium armor repair
one T2 small armor repair
mediums
One Shadow Serpentis 10mn afterburner (Just what I have atm)
three Capacitor rechargers
Highs
6 autocannons
2 HAM's
Rigs
Two T2 CCC's
One T1 CCC's
Now that is stable at 41%, but its not stable if I put two Medium armor reps in, which is why I don't understand the linked battleclinic fit.
Advice? Maybe it needs a 10% or 5% cap regen implant to work??
Now If I take out the 10mn afterburner and put another cap recarger in, its stable, but the hurricane really needs an AB.. And ppl say that fit works on battle clinic, so I have to be missing something.
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:41:00 -
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You forgot to set a character with skills. Additionally, you don't need dual rep with four hardeners. Single rep is enough, put some gyrostabilizers on it or you will get bored very very fast. It should perma run even without the CCC rigs, so you can put on some Auxiliary Nano Pump rigs to compensate for the lack of second rep.
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knentil
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:45:00 -
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oh, I forgot to mention that I DID set all skills to Level 5 in EFT.
well I was using a Single Rep with 2 Nanos and 1 Accell and it couldn't tank the drone room in Deltole.
That was Using 2 Therm and 2 Kin hardeners..
I have to imagine that Other complexs and Level 4 missions would do more DPS then the drone room, sooo :/
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James Tritanius
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:49:00 -
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Battlecruisers, other than the drake, are not for level 4s. Double/Triple Hardeners, single rep with rep rigs should be enough for level 3s, don't know about the complex equivalency.
My EFT shows that it should be very very very stable with the above fit.
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knentil
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Posted - 2010.04.14 04:51:00 -
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what version of EFT are you using?
Could you give me a screen shot of the fit in eft?
Not that I dont believe you, just wanna see if theres anything different that i could be missing.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.04.14 05:21:00 -
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pve cane? Lows filled with te and gyros. Highs filled with 650mm arty. Mids with shield tank. Enjoy wtfpwning level 3 missions.
 Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Originally by: Amarr Supremacist
Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.04.14 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: knentil
oh, I forgot to mention that I DID set all skills to Level 5 in EFT.
well I was using a Single Rep with 2 Nanos and 1 Accell and it couldn't tank the drone room in Deltole.
That was Using 2 Therm and 2 Kin hardeners..
I have to imagine that Other complexs and Level 4 missions would do more DPS then the drone room, sooo :/
You realize drones do dtypes other than kin/therm, right?
Regarding high-sec mining:
Originally by: AmarrettoDiAmarr
3-4 million ISK/hr is perhaps .15 0r .20 US$/hr; not quite prison wages and you are around less honest people.
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Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.14 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
pve cane? Lows filled with te and gyros. Highs filled with 650mm arty. Mids with shield tank. Enjoy wtfpwning level 3 missions.
720mm.
You still have enough buffer to play with, not that you need much at the rate at which things explode.
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Velocifero
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Posted - 2010.04.14 12:52:00 -
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Good god man, please consider the environment before you use T2 rigs. 
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Veliria
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Posted - 2010.04.14 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: knentil
...it couldn't tank the drone room...
That was Using 2 Therm and 2 Kin hardeners
There's your problem.
Drones do massive Explosive damage, which you didn't harden against.
Worse, Explosive is the weakest resist on armor, only 10% on a hurricane.
That's why your tank didn't hold up.
Thermal and Kinetic is for facing Guristas, Serpentis, EoM and to a degree Mercenaries.
Drones, Thukker, Minmatar and Angels do primarily Explosive damage, secondary Kinetic damage and a bit of EM.
Match your hardeners to suit the faction you'll be fighting and your tank should do fine.
Also, Battlecruisers aren't meant for level 4s, Battleships are (or a shiny T2/T3 ship depending on flavor).
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Zeba
pve cane? Lows filled with te and gyros. Highs filled with 650mm arty. Mids with shield tank. Enjoy wtfpwning level 3 missions.
720mm.
You still have enough buffer to play with, not that you need much at the rate at which things explode.
These....
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knentil
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Posted - 2010.04.14 13:30:00 -
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During the time I was in the drone room, I was only getting aggro from the two battleships and 5 crusiers (sp), Not the mass amount of drones.
But I think with T2 hardeners and Dual med reps it should be enough.
Ill know soon enough. :)
Id perfer not to shield tank the cane, Ive seen some good fits for it. But meh, just kinda wanted to try armor for awhile.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.14 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: knentil
During the time I was in the drone room, I was only getting aggro from the two battleships and 5 crusiers (sp), Not the mass amount of drones.
But I think with T2 hardeners and Dual med reps it should be enough.
Ill know soon enough. :)
Id perfer not to shield tank the cane, Ive seen some good fits for it. But meh, just kinda wanted to try armor for awhile.
If you are fighting Exp heavy rats a Shield tank is the way to go...more damage & more tracking with the lows filled with Gyros and TE's.
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Skex Relbore
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Posted - 2010.04.14 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Drek Grapper
Originally by: knentil
During the time I was in the drone room, I was only getting aggro from the two battleships and 5 crusiers (sp), Not the mass amount of drones.
But I think with T2 hardeners and Dual med reps it should be enough.
Ill know soon enough. :)
Id perfer not to shield tank the cane, Ive seen some good fits for it. But meh, just kinda wanted to try armor for awhile.
If you are fighting Exp heavy rats a Shield tank is the way to go...more damage & more tracking with the lows filled with Gyros and TE's.
Sheild tank works nice on the Cane my Cane pilots been running a passive fit that tanks over 200 against Sepr/guristas fits.
Lows 2X gyros 3x shield Relay II
Mids Large Ext (named for the moment going to switch to T2 tonight now that I've finished Shield upgrades IV on the toon) 10mn AB II 2 rat specific hardners (1 them 1 kin atm)
Highs 6X 425II AC 2X Standard launchers (haven't trained medium launchers on him yet plus it's nice to have something extra to jack up frigs)
6X hobgoblin II
Rigs 3X purgers
I haven't tried it solo in a L4 yet it tends to be a part of a fleet with a Domi as Primary tank but it's picked up about half the room agro in WC room 2 and tanked it just fine.
I went passive on it since I multi-box and there is less micromanagement on it plus I can put a shield transfer on my Domi and be able to RR it or my Orca or my buddies Raven if need should arise.
I suspect that this fit could handle most L4's solo pretty easily. You could also go with Arties and range tank/kite a little more safely.
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knentil
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Posted - 2010.04.14 16:20:00 -
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If it turns out that this fit can't tank the drone room or other complexs of similar dps I will shield tank it, though id perfer not to as Im a little sick of the drake and anything that reminds me of it. :)
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Cartheron Crust
Krazny Oktyabr Revolyutsiya
Asomat Drive Yards
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Posted - 2010.04.14 16:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cartheron Crust on 14/04/2010 16:56:31
LVL four AC Cane fit Scroll to post 8.  |
Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
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Posted - 2010.04.14 17:08:00 -
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6x 720mm arty II [short range faction basically]
2x whatever you PVE people use
10MN MWD I (or T2 AB for missions where you can't use MWD I guess)
Warp... nevermind. Second invuln probably, not that you really need it.
Invuln II
LSE II
DC II
2x TE II
3x Gyro II
ACR rig + 2x extender rig
Warrior IIs
Basically.
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Cameron Freerunner
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Posted - 2010.04.14 17:18:00 -
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Edited by: Cameron Freerunner on 14/04/2010 17:20:42
passive cane FTW. t2 650 arties, 2 shield hardeners(omni is fine for L3s), 1 MSE, 1 AB, gyro/track, 3 relays edit: rigs 3xfield purger
with the omni hardeners, the passive cane needs no changes for each mission except drone type and it tears through L3s. you may occasionally want to use mission specific hardeners for things like the AE bonus room.
edit: can't remember if i have a med or large shield extender |
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