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Alaik Gallente Northstar Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.15 07:11:00 - [1] What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? Just curious really what these corps draw people to them with. I mean, what can one attract miners with? "hi, here's some rocks" doesn't seem a great line to me! =P
Biscuit0 Gallente ElitistOps Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.04.15 08:23:00 - [2] Edited by: Biscuit0 on 15/04/2010 08:24:42 To be the best Badger-based small shipment courier serving corporations and alliances in the Greater Jita area.
Calindoth Caldari the glass eye pub	Posted - 2010.04.15 13:34:00 - [3] but eventually we want to get into 'pvp' and then wormholes and then own 0.0 and sooo muchhh space!!! -Alt post spotted :)
Tibalt Avalon Amarr Suck my Titan	Posted - 2010.04.16 01:06:00 - [4] Originally by: Alaik What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? Just curious really what these corps draw people to them with. I mean, what can one attract miners with? "hi, here's some rocks" doesn't seem a great line to me! =P To Live in the Safety of CONCORDs Arms... Were no big bad 0.0 Bullies can harm us and the Drones Skip over the Asteroid Fields gayly under the sunset from the Local Star Sunblast. Hardstyle Ambassador
Sinwagon Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.16 02:29:00 - [5] Originally by: Alaik What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? Just curious really what these corps draw people to them with. I mean, what can one attract miners with? "hi, here's some rocks" doesn't seem a great line to me! =P LoL Translation: Guys post here so my corp has a list of corps to wardec.
John Caffeine Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.04.16 02:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Sinwagon Originally by: Alaik What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? Just curious really what these corps draw people to them with. I mean, what can one attract miners with? "hi, here's some rocks" doesn't seem a great line to me! =P LoL Translation: Guys post here so my corp has a list of corps to wardec. Shhh, you're ruining it.
Shinma Apollo Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.04.16 05:20:00 - [7] Our goals are simply to get more isk by missions and the occasional wormhole, and to do so in a collaborative, friendly environment where we can help each other and enjoy each other's company.
Erikel Gallente Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.16 06:01:00 - [8] Dunno about you guys, but we want to unite all empire corps into one entity called "(Insert name of napfest)", take some space, make a big bonfire and sing Kumbaya. PS: Dammit I was just informed that I'm slow as hell and everyone has done it already. NVM
dracice Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2010.04.16 06:03:00 - [9] Quote: What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? to inspire 0.0 losers with no lives to come up with daily new insults for us high sec people, which I can laugh at.
Erikel Gallente Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.16 06:07:00 - [10] Originally by: dracice Quote: What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? to inspire 0.0 losers with no lives to come up with daily new insults for us high sec people, which I can laugh at. You can keep laughing just don't post anymore, thank you
Alaik Gallente Northstar Syndicate	Posted - 2010.04.16 06:54:00 - [11] To be honest, it was a genuine question. I am struggling to come up with good goals to use as incentives in a high sec corporation. Make money, sure, but why bother? Mine lots of ore, sure, but why bother? Get one of each BPO, fine, but why bother? Can't really figure out what goal to set people in high sec other than make lots of ISK. Meh. You are all far too cynical... we don't have to look hard to find wartargets anyway. =)
Dr Stroomb Amarr moonshine ventures	Posted - 2010.04.16 07:08:00 - [12] It is funny how you put a question intended to hi-sec corps and only you, the usual nul-sec guys answer it back yourself. Do you think this is a good place to post such a question, seeing that only the nul-sec guys read this place? Most of us are just tired of the abuse they receive in nul sec from people like you, who don't have a life other than the one on EVE. Maybe you don't realise but you are good at making the life of others miserable. (Please congratulate yourselves) Having said that, there may not be any reasons at all, other than just log in, do what comes to mind, increase the wallet by some isk and log off. You call it carebearing, meaningless existence, etc, etc. I call it play. (Please troll on this statement) I've been many times a soldier of your corporations and alliances. I liked it overall but I was not ready to sacrifice my subscription for your fun when that actually means losing all my ships - many times over - and being abused to join fleet while trying to rat to finance the next ship. (Please note that the emphasis is not on losing ships but on being abused while ratting to be able to play with you - notice the irony). Now my intention is to have all the ships I can fly in my hangar. I also intend to engage in pvp when I wish, not when you decide. Oh by the way, I almost forgot. My version of pvp is completely different from yours. Besides, everyone looks to improve his position, not just you - You should think about your soldiers. Hope this gives you endless pages of quoting and grounds for much verbal abuse.
Ivan Zhuk Gallente 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.16 07:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Alaik To be honest, it was a genuine question. I am struggling to come up with good goals to use as incentives in a high sec corporation. Make money, sure, but why bother? Mine lots of ore, sure, but why bother? Get one of each BPO, fine, but why bother? Can't really figure out what goal to set people in high sec other than make lots of ISK. Meh. You are all far too cynical... we don't have to look hard to find wartargets anyway. =) You could take all systems in 0.0 but why bother? You could get 100% K/D ratio but why bother? You could laugh at all the noobs that jump into your camp but why bother? You could play eve but why bother? The game is about setting a goal for you and your corp and fulfilling. Maybe begin producing capitals as a team and have fun. The main goal is to have fun if you cant find a way to do that in hi-sec do it in low-sec. If you can't do that in hi-sec or low-sec do that in 0.0. If you cannot do that there then maybe eve isn't the game for you. I find however teamwork is where the game is most fun and its how you achieve your goals set them and move forward.
Azran Zala Caldari Fleet of the Damned Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.04.17 03:51:00 - [14] Heh funny enough I started this game joining a small corp of 3 noobs people, I was recruited as a noob by noobs who had a dream. A dream I shared. We where to become the greatest capship producers in all of new eden! But we had to start somewhere, RIGS he said our charasmatic german ceo, that couldnt speak english to save his life, but rigs! thats where the money is! well at least for a group of noobs with under 3mil skillpoints and a single hulk pilot. We missioned like crazy! we explored new strange worlds in search of those UBER Big veldspar roids (in highsec of course) yet to be tainted by the touch of the macro mining hordes. We recruited like mad! 25people at our peak we had! a fleet of bc's, destroyers, and badger mk1s with mining lazors, tractors and salvagers! and the almighty GIANT SECURE CONTAINERS... heh! scoff at the canflippers we did.. flip that biach! Our Blueprint collection grew, and we joined an alliance. we even started roaming out to 0.0 and getting kills(killed) pure blind some, and then cloud ring! We took 2 systems with the alliance. We ancored our first pos as a corp, in 0.0 of all places! We where so proud! nothing could stop us.. its only up from here boys soon we'll be building mthfking TiTANs !!! Then a newly recruited japanse dood in our corp while ninja salvaging in lowsec, tried to pull a fast one and salvage some wrecks left over from a fight Repo industries had with someone. They poped his destroyer, he's response in local was not very gracious: "Prince RMC > but i still think Hans Gates is a *** arogent prick" "[ 2009.01.02 07:20:22 ] Prince RMC > so off and cry" 2009.01.02 07:24 R.E.P.O. has declared war on Dark Trinity Alliance. Alliance failcascaded. well not entirly due to the war, but it did bring out some issues to the service. 1 being, your avarage highsec carebear is not only a self-seeking squarehead that with a small view on the world (eve world) and get the most ed off when they loose something leading to insane amounts of smack. But they also wouldnt lift a finger to save a friendly frieghter getting tackled & killed by a t1 frig and cruiser. I decied there and then! I will not be a victim I will become one with... THE PVP! Fitted a bomber and went out looking for the repo, found em, got a 1v1. Died misrably.... ok shiet, scratch that idea. Being a director now, I bob'd my corp out the alliance, picked 1 trusty fellow director that a knew, was the biggest carebear of the lost a winey *** that complained about eveything. Hated the very idea of shooting anything that want a NPC frig. Yup right bloke for the job. I handed all the corp bpos to him, the isk, and all the members I deemed useless carebears. and told him to go start another corp. And even better Fluffier carebear corp. Send an evemail to my ceo telling him to join me in Fleet of the damned when he gets back from holiday bring guns, and dont worry about isk... I sold that useless pos of mine, we can get some recons baby. A year later now all I care for the glory of my k:d ratio, my killboard my idol, I worship it. Never before have I felt so true, righteous an existance, than for the persute of destruction... ...and loot gotta love the loot. Politics meh, a side of trolling when you bored. goals? who needs them... isk? money doesnt buy happiness, but it does help with the cost of replacing all those damn inties. Battle! thats where its at... the sounds of your shields failing and your armor falling away at the same moment the target in your crosshairs explodes into brilliant white light (or was that just me waking up in a new clone?....) I love this game. what was I talking about again? Holy crap what a wall of text.. nvrmnd, continue...
CEOJiabao Amarr Solstice Horizon	Posted - 2010.04.17 04:26:00 - [15] Edited by: CEOJiabao on 17/04/2010 04:26:14 Got tired of trolling/drama/**ty taxes. took things into my own hands, got some people i trust from other games, made a corp and we are now doing whatever we want. Including solving that **ty tax problem. Not only do our pro ratters make whatever isk they want above our dues but the miners don't get away Scott free. Is this solution for everyone? No. but it sure makes things easier. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1297713 Our next problem? making our members rich to spend on ships to spin in hangers. meh
Vasili Z Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.17 04:32:00 - [16] Originally by: Erikel Dunno about you guys, but we want to unite all empire corps into one entity called "(Insert name of napfest)", take some space, make a big bonfire and sing Kumbaya. I'm down with the idea if we can call the alliance Twiddly Knobs. ------- Going to kill you in Dust 514 (wait a minute, micro-transactions are dumb)
Funkcikle Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 02:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Dr Stroomb It is funny how you put a question intended to hi-sec corps and only you, the usual nul-sec guys answer it back yourself. Do you think this is a good place to post such a question, seeing that only the nul-sec guys read this place? Most of us are just tired of the abuse they receive in nul sec from people like you, who don't have a life other than the one on EVE. Maybe you don't realise but you are good at making the life of others miserable. (Please congratulate yourselves) Having said that, there may not be any reasons at all, other than just log in, do what comes to mind, increase the wallet by some isk and log off. You call it carebearing, meaningless existence, etc, etc. I call it play. (Please troll on this statement) I've been many times a soldier of your corporations and alliances. I liked it overall but I was not ready to sacrifice my subscription for your fun when that actually means losing all my ships - many times over - and being abused to join fleet while trying to rat to finance the next ship. (Please note that the emphasis is not on losing ships but on being abused while ratting to be able to play with you - notice the irony). Now my intention is to have all the ships I can fly in my hangar. I also intend to engage in pvp when I wish, not when you decide. Oh by the way, I almost forgot. My version of pvp is completely different from yours. Besides, everyone looks to improve his position, not just you - You should think about your soldiers. Hope this gives you endless pages of quoting and grounds for much verbal abuse. Well you certainly sound Like a MASSIVE ASSet, to any corp an absolutly MASSIVE ASSet. Drop our Recruiters a line. Dfunk values member who know how to keep ratting through the hardest times, you would fit right in here. Send your 400 million isk recruitment fee directly to me and I can arrange for your stuff to be moved.
Orar Ironfist Gallente Resonance. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.04.18 13:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Vasili Z Originally by: Erikel Dunno about you guys, but we want to unite all empire corps into one entity called "(Insert name of napfest)", take some space, make a big bonfire and sing Kumbaya. I'm down with the idea if we can call the alliance Twiddly Knobs. Seconded
Myz Toyou Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:13:00 - [19] To quote my CEO: We hopefully become a successful 0.0 corp witch has to obey to the greater good of a certain alliance CEO and members arent allowed to voice their opinions. We trying hard but so far we failed WTB: The ultimate: 'How to suck it up' guide.
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:44:00 - [20] tbh the goals are simple for highsec corps.. short term = get to lowsec long term = get to 0.0 ;) The Dark is Rising...
Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 17:20:00 - [21] Originally by: Dr Stroomb Most of us are just tired of the abuse they receive in nul sec from people like you, who don't have a life other than the one on EVE. Maybe you don't realise but you are good at making the life of others miserable. (Please congratulate yourselves) Its a game, if you make posts like this, your probably far too up tight to get along with most 0.0 alliances/corps. As far as I can see, most do what they do for fun, weather its killing "noobs" or just making their enemys/neuts lives miserable. For your post I can only offer one suggestion.....delete your account/accounts and go find a game where everyone works together in harmony (if such a game exists)
batloard Amarr Debitum Naturae BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.04.18 22:51:00 - [22] Originally by: Mitch Taylor tbh the goals are simple for highsec corps.. short term = get to lowsec long term = get to 0.0 ;) Better yet, skip the lowsec. Move straight to: a. a regional 0.0 entrance b. npc space: be it upper or lower level low sec provides nothing better experience wise then a low end 0.0 such as syndicate/pure blind/gem/gw/etc would. Mind you moving into venal/stain/curse/fountain/delve to get your feet wet might not be a brilliant plan but it's not like theirs a huge startup cost to get there. (Particularly those that border empire)
Motseth Caldari Red Federation	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:11:00 - [23] highsec corps are sheduled for failcascade eventually, there are hardly any competition in highsec and competition is the great fun dealer, people that just stay in highsec will find pvp someday, some will like it and move on to lowsec/nullsec or even highsec wars that are pure crap imo. Others will complain, their corp will failcascade, they will go to another corp and repeat the process until they see that there are no point in making isks and they are losing their time in a competition free environment that provides them boredom and virtual money. maybe there are a few corps/alliances in highsec that are successful, but there are nothing in highsec that is great and can be achieved, anyone wanting to make something significant have hardly any option other than move to lowsec and nullsec.
Mean Gus Caldari Heiorun	Posted - 2010.04.19 20:08:00 - [24] What¦s a low sec again? Ok, i remember now, CTA! CTA! 500 ppl in Alliance Channel, 25 in fleet, 2 hours to get anything started, huge lag battles, hmmm nice! I like the Empire borders, you get pvp when you want to, you don¦t need to fuel 2.000 POS. Call me a carebear and "mine" your own business
Elm'o Minmatar Section XIII Cursed Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.20 00:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Motseth even highsec wars that are pure crap imo. Red Fed..Wat? Originally by: Mean Gus What¦s a low sec again? Ok, i remember now, CTA! CTA! 500 ppl in Alliance Channel, 25 in fleet, 2 hours to get anything started, huge lag battles, hmmm nice! I like the Empire borders, you get pvp when you want to, you don¦t need to fuel 2.000 POS. Call me a carebear and "mine" your own business Hey here is a tip. You don't have to be in a big alliance to play in nullsec !!1!
DeT Resprox Minmatar T.R.I.A.D	Posted - 2010.04.20 09:49:00 - [26] For me, my goal is to enrich the experience of the player by using the RP environment within EvE. As a Corp - to remain as one of the forerunners in Minmatar Faction warfare. Much of what we're about as a corp can be found HERE, which goes into detail on our mission statement. DeT Resprox T.R.I.A.D CEO INGAME CHANNEL: TRIAD AGENCY
Danny Lonnegan Caldari P-Q-T Directorate Poena Quod Talio	Posted - 2010.04.20 18:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Alaik To be honest, it was a genuine question. I am struggling to come up with good goals to use as incentives in a high sec corporation. Make money, sure, but why bother? Mine lots of ore, sure, but why bother? Get one of each BPO, fine, but why bother? Can't really figure out what goal to set people in high sec other than make lots of ISK. Meh. You are all far too cynical... we don't have to look hard to find wartargets anyway. =) You're approaching this from a PVPer's perspective--for you (and me and I suspect most of the people in COAD), EVE is a pew-pew spaceships game with an economic simulator attached. But you could just as easily approach from the other direction--EVE is an economic simulation game where the commodity just happens to be pew-pew spaceships. There's lots of gamers who love games like that--look at Sim City, or all the "Tycooon" games. For them, the goal could be to build a manufacturing or trading empire, or cornering the market on T3 production, or making a trillion ISK, or just having fun carving out a niche and surviving in the face of brutal competition and endemic piracy. It's no less legitimate than trying to build a 0.0 empire, or achieving the highest possible k:d ratio, or making a name as a fearsome pirate, or just having fun killing and being killed.
Mean Gus Caldari Heiorun	Posted - 2010.04.21 00:26:00 - [28] Originally by: Danny Lonnegan Originally by: Alaik To be honest, it was a genuine question. I am struggling to come up with good goals to use as incentives in a high sec corporation. Make money, sure, but why bother? Mine lots of ore, sure, but why bother? Get one of each BPO, fine, but why bother? Can't really figure out what goal to set people in high sec other than make lots of ISK. Meh. You are all far too cynical... we don't have to look hard to find wartargets anyway. =) You're approaching this from a PVPer's perspective--for you (and me and I suspect most of the people in COAD), EVE is a pew-pew spaceships game with an economic simulator attached. But you could just as easily approach from the other direction--EVE is an economic simulation game where the commodity just happens to be pew-pew spaceships. There's lots of gamers who love games like that--look at Sim City, or all the "Tycooon" games. For them, the goal could be to build a manufacturing or trading empire, or cornering the market on T3 production, or making a trillion ISK, or just having fun carving out a niche and surviving in the face of brutal competition and endemic piracy. It's no less legitimate than trying to build a 0.0 empire, or achieving the highest possible k:d ratio, or making a name as a fearsome pirate, or just having fun killing and being killed. I Think im in love! (Where¦s the damn "heart" smile?)
Antihrist Pripravnik Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.04.21 01:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Alaik What sort of short / long term goals do you have for your carebear corps? Just curious really what these corps draw people to them with. I mean, what can one attract miners with? "hi, here's some rocks" doesn't seem a great line to me! =P Long time ago I was in a corp that was based in highsec. I was a CEO of that corp actually. High sec corps offer the most of the things 0.0 corps offer (except blob warfare and holding sov). Highsec corps offer: - A lot of help for totally new players. - Orca mining boosts; - New players can also run higher level missions with senior members or tackle COSMOS missions; - Industrial oriented players can be attracted to join a corp that has highsec POS-es with blueprint research laboratories (BIG advatntage over doing it solo in an NPC corp); - Highsec warfare and wardecs as a form of pvp (including factional warfare); - Lowsec pvp roams; - Wormhole excursions; As for the goals, generally the short term goals are to join the right alliance of friendly and cool people or train up the new players enough to be self sufficient in some more hostile environment (lowsec or 0.0). Long term goals almost always include going into 0.0.

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