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Posted - 2010.04.16 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Grozen on 16/04/2010 18:54:59
From what i read so far it will be close to this:
1.Will require fairly large number of new skills to develop your planet well.
2.You will be able 80% of the materials used in pos fuel-Expect a huge drop in fuel stuff on market, so far ice has bee left untouched which means miners will still be able to make small $ from it.
3.There will be tons of new stuff which use atm can only be classified as "unknown" so far.
4.Looking at the spreadsheets i noticed one of the products is planetary vehicles.This will probably mean that a lot of the stuff that we're going to make in Tyrannis is going to be specially for DUST.
I think its fairly reasonable to expect a huge turn of all industrialist to planet interaction possible new ipo/bonds etc, because some of the stuff is bound to bring huge $.
Most of the info is speculation because its still only in Sisi but I'm positive that a lot will remain as it is.
My advice is gather a lot isk, this will probably be isk free to start but the later stages will no doubt cost a lot to develop.
Feel free to add more to it discuss.
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Posted - 2010.04.16 20:40:00 -
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Yes i get you on the skills part i've never said you will need 5months skilling just to start pi.The entry will be very easy skill wise but what i mean is the big stuff lets say complex planetary installations/managing will require lots of skill training just like production for example.That is just a speculation tho:)
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Posted - 2010.04.18 09:19:00 -
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I think ccp would give at least 1 day for the people to avoid total crash of their routine.Till the next downtime is my guess which will no doubt result in massive drain of the current fuel supplies and whatnot.
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Posted - 2010.04.18 21:25:00 -
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Just like to point out the fact that on sisi there's no pos fuel anywhere on the markets
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Posted - 2010.04.19 15:50:00 -
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No idea how much cash it makes atm on sisi but it has been confirmed that ccp will release several tiers of PI each been able to hold more of x.So i highly doubt that you will be making 10-40m max from this.Lets be realistic pos fuel for large pos cost atleast 6x that so i doubt you will be able to make less them month supply of fuel from one planet.
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Posted - 2010.04.19 17:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Olusegun Obasanjo
Originally by: Akita T
Well, if they indeed do cut out all NPC sell orders for anything that can be produced on planets come May 18, it will be an interesting rollercoaster ride to watch unfold.
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this is a complete shot in the dark, but anyone have any ideas about the value of the planets? will plasma be the new dysporo? (assuming they will be worth anything at all.
They hinted that the dangerous planets will likely bring better rewards so its more then likely plasma/lava will be our tech/dyspro 
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Posted - 2010.04.19 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Grozen on 19/04/2010 19:10:30
I don't really think the effect will be so big even if they remove the npc sell orders, because anyone with half brain stockpiles supplies for producing/fuel for month not once a day or something.If anyone is going to be affected its going to be someone that has just returned to eve and his pos is offline or something, starting PI is easy too so while there might be lil panic i'm sure it won't be anything major.
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Posted - 2010.04.19 23:32:00 -
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You are both right and wrong.First its easy to repeat industry jobs because you actually set to produce x for 20days and only take care of it on day 20.Second according to cosmos research planets only give bout 50m per month and that's with a lot of work, according to him all the job has to be done manually over 24/7.
I will repeat again.Ccp said they will have different sizes of PI so they can handle more of x , there's good chance with the sizes will come more automated mining of these planets.Rare planets will bring more isk.The stuff produced for dust could be gold mine if dust comes out nice and attracts many players.
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Posted - 2010.04.20 03:10:00 -
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Thanks for the detailed explanation dude, but there are still many things to go live on PI.Most notable would be the trade center which supposedly lets you interact with other people(sharing production and lines and bla bla).Also the current imputs are not worth looking at.I'm sure they are subject to change for better.Hell it doesn't matter how big the planet deposits are the main thing is to be able to make the process easy task that doesn't require much work so far ccp fails in this task
Also i'm sure that PI will get many expansion, patches as the current version is no where near the final product they've pointed out its early aplha though i can't see how are they going to make so many changes till may.
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Posted - 2010.04.21 14:49:00 -
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the current lvls of PI can not be realistic because they cannot supply anything atm what's left for pos fuel or producing anything.The scenario in which ccp increases drastically the output of everything is more then likely, the stuff atm is mostly for experiment.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 06:03:00 -
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My very speculative guess is that they will allow us to mine/store bigger volume of stuffs, but it will be skill related, needless to say unless theres fuel seeded there will be hell but only for 1-2months.
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Posted - 2010.04.22 17:51:00 -
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Hell i know that in one of the PI threads dev said this"there will be upgraded CCs with higher CPU and power outputs", that transforms into more automated process and trows off most calculations in this topic so before you got nuts at least wait for PI version 6,7.
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Posted - 2010.04.23 05:32:00 -
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Ha i was right!You are now able to upgrade the extractors to better cpu output and god knows what else.It looks like it won't be as dumb as some people thought.Not to mention when i scouted i found huge deposits in planets that are in high sec.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 16:52:00 -
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There are several new upgrades which changes a lot of the previous statements on this topic.The ones that are most notable are that pi is no longer instanced so you can choose which planets are busy(aka filled with other people), and which planets are free so you can choose well before setting up.The biggest upgrade however is prolonging the cycle time on everything to 95hours which makes the whole process and not so tedious anymore.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 18:53:00 -
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Having to take care of it every 4days isn't a hassle at all i personally tend my industry stuff 2-3times a day so its perfectly normal if wants attention every 4days.
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Posted - 2010.04.29 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Grozen on 29/04/2010 14:34:52
Originally by: Io Callisto
You may cheerfully expect most NPC sell orders for lots of items to disappear with Tyrannis. The only ones that might stay are the cheapest ones, usually cheap because they are found in Low Sec.
The rest of the orders -- gone. Why? Because if NPC materials are continued to be offered by NPC sell orders, who will want to put the effort into PI? Not many, because at heart we are all LAZY and if we can buy "stuff" off the market and not waste time in boring, repetitive tasks, then we won't.
If both PI and NPC sources were available for a short time, as some people are suggesting is needed to transition the EvE economy to PI, prices will tank...and again, who will bother? No profit in that, thus no interest.
Ever wondered why Jita is so successful? Same reason. Despite higher prices, it's CONVENIENCE.
Why waste your time managing a string of Planetary Interaction production chains when you could be out ratting in 0.0, or mining ABC in a WH, or PVP'ing?
Finally, there is the simple fact that CCP has made no secret of it's desire to put the economy in the hands of the players. That's what Tyrannis is about, so why screw with that plan by keeping NPC sell orders around?
Suck it up, kiddies. PI is coming and you can either be part of it, or keep shopping in Jita. 
This statement is wrong because out of all pos fuels ccp is removing they still leave these alone: liquid ozone, heavy water, nitrogen isotopes; Those are the fuels that are needed in large portion to supply your tower energy needs.Those are the fuels that are produced trough ice harvesting so even if they remove the other fuels big deal.People can produce the rest of the stuff relatively easy with the new Pi and you don't even need that much of it to supply your large tower.So nobody should panic if they remove npc stuff from the market ice fuels will remain there, and the fuels like oxygen(aka nonplayer npc produced atm) can be easy made in fairly large portion with few toons.
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