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Crumplecorn
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Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.19 21:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Zedic
I have no counterpoint, so I'll claim to be good at trolling.
I've found a small flaw in your plan.
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Zedic
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Posted - 2010.04.19 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zedic on 19/04/2010 21:58:17
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zedic
I have no counterpoint, so I'll claim to be good at trolling.
I've found a small flaw in your plan.
OK fine, we can dance if you want to, you can leave your friends behind.
So in order for the ipad to be "good at gaming" - it has to be able to play Eve or Crysis? Or some other PC platform game? I realize you're being obtuse, but I don't need a "counter point". The popularity, sales history and demand for the ipod touch, iphones, and ipad - not to mention the revenue generated from selling games on those platforms suggests without question that "gaming" ~in that format~ is indeed "good" and is considered "good" by the people that buy the devices, and the games and use them.
Now then captain asshat - if you use Crysis or even Eve as a yardstick to measure whether or not a mobile device is "good at gaming" you're either:
A. stupid
B. uninformed (due to living in a basement or something)
C. a troll
D. all of the above.
E. an exception to the rule as most normal people don't expect to run high end PC games on mobile platforms. And no, a 25lbs alienware laptop that costs as much as a small car can be really considered "mobile". You can pick your desktop up and carry it around on your hump, but that doesn't mean it's convenient.
My favorite games on my iphone are I Dig it and Fieldrunners. The labyrinth game and one of the racing games on the ipad were great when I tried them out. Your inability to understand a broader definition of "gaming" is amusing.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.04.19 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
So in order for the ipad to be "good at gaming" - it has to be able to play Eve or Crysis? Or some other PC platform game?
1 - EVE) - YES
2 - CrySis) - YES
3 - PC Platform game) - YES
Then I'd buy it 
I really don't know why even Apple Fanboys are excited about the iPad. It was clear that it comes and it runs the exact same OS as iPhone and iPod touch, nothing changed (except graphic driver maybe for larger screen and additions to run iPhone/iPod touch apps).
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Zedic
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Posted - 2010.04.19 22:07:00 -
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You've clearly never held one. Presssciousssss.....
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2010.04.19 22:30:00 -
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In order for something to fall under the general heading 'great for gaming' it must be great for games - in general. If we narrow the field to only that which is available on the platform in question, anything with a few games for it could be considered 'great for gaming' - for what it is. Which is exactly the criterion you are applying to the iPad, and then ironically accusing me of being unable to understand a broader definition of gaming.
Once again you refer to the popularity of the platform - flash games probably outweigh anything else in terms of popularity. So is flash the ultimate gaming platform? Hardly. It's just the lowest common denominator. Sure, the iPad has lots of nice casual games, and is probably the best within the realm of gimped computers or overweight smart phones, whichever category you care to put it in. But that doesn't make it 'great for gaming', it just means it doesn't fail as hard as everything else in its class.
This isn't a criticism of the device - it's not meant for gaming, so more power to it for offering something. But to turn around and say its great for gaming? Please.
Incidentally, you suggested Crysis or EVE as a yardstick, not me.
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Posted - 2010.04.19 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
In order for something to fall under the general heading 'great for gaming' it must be great for games - in general. If we narrow the field to only that which is available on the platform in question, anything with a few games for it could be considered 'great for gaming' - for what it is. Which is exactly the criterion you are applying to the iPad, and then ironically accusing me of being unable to understand a broader definition of gaming.
Once again you refer to the popularity of the platform - flash games probably outweigh anything else in terms of popularity. So is flash the ultimate gaming platform? Hardly. It's just the lowest common denominator. Sure, the iPad has lots of nice casual games, and is probably the best within the realm of gimped computers or overweight smart phones, whichever category you care to put it in. But that doesn't make it 'great for gaming', it just means it doesn't fail as hard as everything else in its class.
This isn't a criticism of the device - it's not meant for gaming, so more power to it for offering something. But to turn around and say its great for gaming? Please.
Incidentally, you suggested Crysis or EVE as a yardstick, not me.
It's great for gaming. It's not great to you for gaming since ~according to you~ it needs to be great for games "in general". It's not an "in general gaming device" nobody has ever claimed that, yet you've built this strawman, and are attempting to tilt at ipad driven windmills because you're unable to show us on the doll where Steve Jobs touched you. 
It's absolutely meant for gaming, just not a type of gaming that interests you, or a type that you consider to be "valid" or worthy of the category "gaming". That's fine. It's great for the type of gaming that I do when I'm not playing Eve on my Mac.
"Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima |
Crumplecorn
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Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.19 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
It's great for gaming.
<WAH WAH WAH>
It's great for the type of gaming that I do when I'm not playing Eve on my Mac.
For a post which offered so much 'justification' in the middle it sure back-pedalled a lot at the end.
I have no problem with casual gaming, go off and play whatever kinds of games you like, but don't claim that a platform is great at something it cannot match its contemporaries at. And try to understand that an unqualified statement is by definition a general statement. You turn around to someone and say you bought a great gaming platform, they are going to expect one of the big three or at least a Wii, not an underpowered tablet computer running MacOS.
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Posted - 2010.04.19 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zedic
It's great for gaming.
<WAH WAH WAH>
It's great for the type of gaming that I do when I'm not playing Eve on my Mac.
For a post which offered so much 'justification' in the middle it sure back-pedalled a lot at the end.
I have no problem with casual gaming, go off and play whatever kinds of games you like, but don't claim that a platform is great at something it cannot match its contemporaries at. And try to understand that an unqualified statement is by definition a general statement. You turn around to someone and say you bought a great gaming platform, they are going to expect one of the big three or at least a Wii, not an underpowered tablet computer running MacOS.
I haven't back peddled on anything, now you're just being an ass. :)
Again, it's great for gaming - as a mobile platform. What contemporary does the ipad have?? The smallest Macbook? "Netbooks?" for gaming? I LOL'd. Oh, and I didn't say I will buy it because it's a great "gaming platform". I said I will buy it because it's great at gaming ~ the mobile / casual type of gaming that I do. AND it's good at doing a lot of other stuff I need it to do. And the big 3 consoles, nor a Wii will fit in my flight bag. I can do that stuff when I'm at home.
"Zedic, would probably, somehow, make it all blow up." - Akima |
Crumplecorn
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Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.04.19 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zedic
it's great for gaming - as a mobile platform.
I appear to have made my point.
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Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.04.19 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zedic
it's great for gaming - as a mobile platform.
I appear to have made my point.
LOL, nah you haven't.
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Shinde Kudasai
Exemplar Autonomy
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Posted - 2010.04.20 03:07:00 -
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Eve counts as a "high end game?" 
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dereekb
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Posted - 2010.04.20 03:37:00 -
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The Ipad sits in between the Iphone and a Mac Book Pro. It's useless "middle-ware" that doesn't have the pocket mobility of a Iphone or the power of a MacBook Pro. There is no point in getting one when you can be more productive on a laptop and it will be awkward to bring to work...
Oh, and its overpriced. For those who want a much more functional tablet and can wait, there are several other tablets coming out that you'll enjoy more than this I(Don't have a niche)Pad.
There are also a few bugs and glitches with it, specifically the Wi-fi part of it.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente
Capsuleers of Doom
Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.20 06:24:00 -
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Originally by: dereekb
The Ipad sits in between the Iphone and a Mac Book Pro.
Complete and utter ****e then.
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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
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Posted - 2010.04.20 06:47:00 -
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Blending
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Zedic
Amarr
Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.04.20 18:43:00 -
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Looks like at least some members of the gaming dev industry agree. Game ~ Set ~ Match.
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Doom Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.04.20 18:54:00 -
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Originally by:
...Scott Steinberg has been a long time friend of Steve Jobs, and often forwards the ...
He dismissed accusations of accepting bribes from Apple, citing standard payment for reviewing various products...
Just google the guys name and Apple, he's like there biggest fan 
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