Can anyone explain it to new folks? It seems to me like goons are dominating everything and only a small part of the players (like 10k out of 350k) is involved in any kind of "spacedomination".

tell me more.

I don't know about any "geopolitical" situation but this is how null-sec looked 1-2 weeks ago.

Team yellow is fighting team green and winning (delve is yellow now, querious will be yellow soon)
Team red is fighting team orange to prevent team orange from fighting team green.

10k? lmfao

The number is far, far higher than that.

anything else that is not goon related? where is that sandbox?

Can anyone explain it to new folks? It seems to me like goons are dominating everything and only a small part of the players (like 10k out of 350k) is involved in any kind of "spacedomination".

Examples are
BOB gets betrayed, BOB disolves by betrayal, all the isk stolen.
IT rebirth and revenge. Goons disolves, all the isk stolen. IT disolves
DRF takes down the NC(old coalition that was believed to be unbrakable). NC disolves
DRF disolves

and many many other examples

Geopolitics, from Greek +ô++ (earth) and +á+++++¦-ä+¦+¦+« (politics)

Your post sure seems smart enough, and I am sure that you felt pretty smart posting it. Except everything that you said here is complete bunk, and utterly worthless. The real culprit behind every event that you stated was CCP spontaneously changing the game mechanics, or, a result of mechanics that were shotty in the first place.


DRF took down the unbreakable NC because of CCP's Super carrier buff, Drone region macro mining and the sudden proliferation of supers.
Goons died because they forgot to pay the rental bill ( a new ccp mechanic at the time)
BOB died because CCP thinks it's ok for sov 5 to go poof with a click of a button, instead of the 24 stasis req for anything else of importance in eve. Also, directors cannot declare war so why can they kill everything when people are sleeping?
IT alliance died because they needed to become goons in terms of sheer number, just so they could deal with dominions new mechanics and pay the sov bills. They needed the rent, and that bred discourse among the old timers who have been playing the game together since the beginning.


So you see no sand box. No sand box at all. These changes were directly precipitated by CCP's **** ups, and if they had not done these thing there would still be a BOB, a goonswarm and an NC. So please put a cork in it, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

Your post sure seems smart enough, and I am sure that you felt pretty smart posting it. Except everything that you said here is complete bunk, and utterly worthless. The real culprit behind every event that you stated was CCP spontaneously changing the game mechanics, or, a result of mechanics that were shotty in the first place.


DRF took down the unbreakable NC because of CCP's Super carrier buff, Drone region macro mining and the sudden proliferation of supers.
Goons died because they forgot to pay the rental bill ( a new ccp mechanic at the time)
BOB died because CCP thinks it's ok for sov 5 to go poof with a click of a button, instead of the 24 stasis req for anything else of importance in eve. Also, directors cannot declare war so why can they kill everything when people are sleeping?
IT alliance died because they needed to become goons in terms of sheer number, just so they could deal with dominions new mechanics and pay the sov bills. They needed the rent, and that bred discourse among the old timers who have been playing the game together since the beginning.


So you see no sand box. No sand box at all. These changes were directly precipitated by CCP's **** ups, and if they had not done these thing there would still be a BOB, a goonswarm and an NC. So please put a cork in it, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

About 50k last estimate.

Since everyone else in Eve hates and wants to kill the CFC (apparently) that means the CFC are outnumbered some 300K to 50 K or 6 to 1. Clearly they can not lose and the rest of Eve will fall to the CFC and their superior numbers and tactics.


The rest of Eve are a bunch of idiots waiting to be culled.

Is this true? CCP did all those changes and it hat kinda big impact on some alliances?

Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.

Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.

and as I see it on the kbs Delve being outnumbered 100 to 1 the OP basically has it right lol

Is this true? CCP did all those changes and it hat kinda big impact on some alliances?

It's ok, try not to cry about it. People will forget your bad post in no time, I promise.






And yes...the proof is on the old forums, do a google search and read EVE history. It is all pretty much in the archive. Most of what Mr. Andrea Roche Butthurt is talking about coincided with 1. The dominion expansion and 2. the introduction of stupid high HP carriers and fighter bombers (and the after effects of these two things) He also failed to mention that the most sizable portion of supers owned in the game, shortly their after, ended up belonging to the drone regions and the Russian marcobots that supposedly did not live there (but of course who wants to remember that little fact right?) It is better to cry foul and pretend that you are right, amiright?

Your post sure seems smart enough, and I am sure that you felt pretty smart posting it. Except everything that you said here is complete bunk, and utterly worthless. The real culprit behind every event that you stated was CCP spontaneously changing the game mechanics, or, a result of mechanics that were shotty in the first place.


DRF took down the unbreakable NC because of CCP's Super carrier buff, Drone region macro mining and the sudden proliferation of supers.
Goons died because they forgot to pay the rental bill ( a new ccp mechanic at the time)
BOB died because CCP thinks it's ok for sov 5 to go poof with a click of a button, instead of the 24 stasis req for anything else of importance in eve. Also, directors cannot declare war so why can they kill everything when people are sleeping?
IT alliance died because they needed to become goons in terms of sheer number, just so they could deal with dominions new mechanics and pay the sov bills. They needed the rent, and that bred discourse among the old timers who have been playing the game together since the beginning.


So you see no sand box. No sand box at all. These changes were directly precipitated by CCP's **** ups, and if they had not done these thing there would still be a BOB, a goonswarm and an NC. So please put a cork in it, because you have no idea what you are talking about.

the fact that SoCo doesn't want to commit is not our problem gf gf

Ofc the idea of CCP's failed expansions would rile you guys up so badly, that would naturally diminish your fragile view of how awesome you are at a video game. I understand that you need to feel like you're like real military generals and solders winning a great campaign, but it is just a video game people so chill. Seriously.



CCP's nerfs/expansions/failures have always reshaped both the game and the game board. It is just an unfortunate part of the game play, one that we all wish that we could do without.

Ofc the idea of CCP's failed expansions would rile you guys up so badly, that would naturally diminish your fragile view of how awesome you are at a video game. I understand that you need to feel like you're like real military generals and solders winning a great campaign, but it is just a video game people so chill. Seriously.



CCP's nerfs/expansions/failures have always reshaped both the game and the game board. It is just an unfortunate part of the game play, one that we all wish that we could do without.

the fact that SoCo doesn't want to commit is not our problem gf gf

CCP changes the game in an expansion. Some entities adapt and live on. Some cling to their old, no longer working ways, and die.

This is completely new and never happened before.

Ok we'll do this one more time:

The Third Age (February 2010 - Now)
Dreddit is founded, Goonswarm moves into Delkein, The CFC is established, Cloud Ring is taken from Evoke for the CFC, Fountain is taken from IT for the CFC and given to TEST, IT collapses, the Northern Coalition implodes, head shot VFK fails, and a bunch of other stuff happens.

We come to current events.

After the attack on VFK failed Mister Vee, a top Goonswarm FC, turned his eye on the region of Delve in September 2011. Former Northern Coalition members Morsus Mihi and Br1ck Squad had aquired territory there following their defeat in the North. Evoke also appeared in Delve, gobbling up Chaos Theory and Hun Reloaded territory. The goal was to free port the region and open each station to players no matter their standings while providing fights for CFC members. While the refugees were evicted, the free port concept ultimately failed. The space taken by Goons is slowly ground down by NEM3SIS. Meanwhile, the Drone Russian Federation erupted in a civil war, which is won by Solar Fleet. Nulli Secunda moves in. Red Alliance is evicted from their space and invades Delve. Test and PL found the Honeybadger Coalition and go on several deployments together. NEM3SIS collapses and Red Alliance is left fighting the remaining residents Nulli Secunda and Vera Cruz.

Branch and Tenal are taken and divided between CFC members.

The Honeybadger Coalition, now including TASHA and 99%, came to Delve in search of good fights. Red Alliance and The Southern Coalition residents allied with each other in response. Fights are not forth coming, so the conflict escalated to a sovereignty war for the Greater Delve area, Delve, Querious, and Period Basis. Super capitals were deployed at this time. The war escalated for several reasons. First, the residents posted themselves out of it. Second, CCP hinted at a moon mineral re-balance and Delve has decent R64 moons. Finally, the Delve residents didn't put up much of a defense and systems started falling without much resistance. Faced with losing their space the residents of Delve called in the Southern Coalition (SOCO), Solar, and Raiden escalating the fight again. As a result, the HBC matched the escalation by calling in the CFC.

All of these materials are available in detail at a website which cannot be uttered on the EVE-O forums, ask around and someone will clue you in.

All of these materials are available in detail at a website which cannot be uttered on the EVE-O forums, ask around and someone will clue you in.

Ok, now. I want you to point on the doll where they "touched" you. It'll be ok, I promise. We are going to get you some help.