4 Billion ISK and Killboard Stats, this thread is going places.

Oh, all this time I thought they were about trade hub undocks, remote sensor boosters, and some sense of relevancy for pilots afraid to enter Low/Null space. I get that bragging about ISK killed is a 'thing', but seriously 4 Bil? That doesn't even quantify as 'a lot' of isk in the eyes of even the humblest of mission runners.

I guess I could point out your illustrious history of being terrible, or Kai's special way of losing 1-3b on the 1st and 15th of each month (that is only coincidentally a military payday), but it would require actual effort digging up killmails, posting trends and making an interesting graph.

As much as I look down on 'Empire Mercenary Elite Undock PvP' I don't wish the subsequent pages of sperg, useless statistics and chestbeating on Tora and friends.

Sorry, I don't need a 6b ISK Vindicator to kill an Anathema and a Myrmidon with 13 other people- three jumps into NPC Nullsec.




Kai86 has a penchant for losing hilariously badly fitted ships everytime he enters Lowsec...

Here's the highlight reel:

How to NOT 100MN Tengu
Kai making excuses after losing a Vagabond to a SFI, because kiting is hard
Cyno Vindicator in FW HotSpot
Getting School by VegasMirage Take 1
That Deimos
Gettin' Balkaned, PT I
Balkaned, Part II
Goons Gonna Get Ya

Look at the dates on all of them. Military Paydays? Check.

Someone needs to tell your CEO, no matter how many PLEX you buy- it will never make you competent.

Kai86, however, lost gametime, which is better.

I rather go hunt and have some fun.

Ahaha after Kai's it's now NightmareX's turn.

I'm gonna suscribe right now and get some popcorns. This thread is awesome.

wow maybe your time would be better spent helping kai with anger management then trolling our board. as far as the facts try this one, he got baned because he cant control his self while playing a video game rofl

funny how were at war right now and your not online him you decked us 2 day ago how is it going so far. and its funny i dont see you online you seen to be at a computer. hmmmm and it seems you do want to talk about it hince the convo. well maybe tomorrow you will wake up from your delusions and remeber its just a friggin game. is it me or does half of god squad need therapy lol

i have not lied on this post yet you can get on here and twist words all you want. facts are your trolling us on our post while at war not online while bragging hmmmm. as far as who is win i refer you to my previous statment.

Who is making excuses? I was just pointing out that we can all log in on all our characters, and Kai can only log in on a main.

You mean the war I really didn't take part in, other than watching Kai make a complete ass of himself, and watching the excuses of, "Well, I get banned for 3 to 7 days all the time because I'm just that badass!" fly around after the GMs responded?

Yeah, the only thing I paid attention to was how we baited Kai into doing what he wanted us to do, which was rage. :)

man if were the ones butthurt why are you on our forum being stupid, and if were the ones butthurt why do you dec us, how is that current war going for you by the way still waiting on that answer. and as far as your effeciency of 84
http://www.p0wnd.nl/kb/ ours is 89% and cevl is 19kill to 9 loses life time against god squad .
you really should stop post now if you dont know why just bend over pull your head out your butt and read what you have been saying, then call the tharpest beacuse you need help mate.

your so right this is golden like i said cevl is 19-9 liftime against god squad in case you just dont understan what that means it we are beating you thats for passt you keep bringing up. now for present war you still have yet to mention how its going ???? whts wrong to painfull??? here is an idea how about you actually putting your money were your mouth is, of course that would take you logging in and undocking. ill be waiting for you with bells on lol.

again with the past what about current war stop dodging ????? or maybe log in and fight. all i hear is blah blah excuse blah blah dodge ???? blah blah. trolling forums not logged in blah blah blah. rofl step up or shut up, bring it to yard, undock and shoot. if you still have any ??? about what im saying let me spell it out for you.

LOG IN AND FIGHT COWARD!!!!!!

Normally, when people play that card- they at least have a kill or two to show that they participated in said stomping (where you have none); Seeing as you haven't I would say its past time to put up, or shut up.

Tell us more about killboard stats that don't involve your active participation, and how efficiency actually means something. Every corp or alliance has a special needs pilot that enjoys doing silly things with expensive toys; when a single kill forms the majority of your 'damage' against an entity comprised of many people- you don't hurt the whole, only the single pilot.

I'm not one to talk smack, but this is really getting out of hand.

If you're such as great players as you claim to be, you'd let your KB speak for itself, and not have to put a big pointy sign saying whom you are. I don't have anything against you as i don't even know you. But this is a read for the Marmite Collective, regarding our recruiting and Merc services.

If you can't keep it civile, and yes i'm refeering to the Marmite members aswell, please go to reddit or 4chan and yell at people, or use all that energy in-game.

You don't like us, and that fine, we don't force you to. The whole point of Marmite is to make our enemies hate us, and seing as you do, our job here is done.

When you get the time for it, we'll happily let you show your skills. I just wish it wasn't only a big mouth i've personally seen so far.

Please elaborate more about 'coming to fight' me. I've never seen a single member of Rebirth posted in any Intel Channels I have open, at any time. The only thing you guys have ever done that made me even notice you lately was failing to tackle a double plated (I was an outlaw at the time, I don't think Kai can afford this wardec) Redeemer leaving Dodixie 4-20.



Please show me where Rebirth. is 'stomping me/us'.

I don't know what the stats are because I could honestly careless, Empire mercs are all the same to me; one trick ponies that sit on either Mad/Nia, in Uedama, or a Trade Hub and just wait for idiots to jump into them. Not really knocking your play style though, do what's fun for you- just don't expect any null dwelling alliance to care about what you consider inflicting 'serious damage' to them- Unless it's a Super, none of us are likely to notice, hell- most of us don't even pay attention to the notifications tab anyway.

Jesus...*adds butter to movie popcorn*

NightmareX, you do realize your angry/whiny smacktalk in here is making God Squad look even more stupid?

Fleet composition:

Kai86: Rapier
Domineren: Drake
Red Glaze: Talos
Hasentaenzer: Tornado
One Other: Tornado

Because I wouldn't engage that fleet by myself with a Deimos, the entire fleet bailed when Zero Threat showed up in an Abaddon. Of course, cue the usual rage from Kai over us evening the odds in any way. Somehow, we were the cowards for having an Abaddon and a Deimos. No one else showed up, because everyone knew Kai would flee.

As was said on comms, Kai would never commit. That was the point of his Rapier: to save him, as was the usual.

This was also the encounter where Kai said a few things that currently prevent him from logging Kai in.

Oh, and Kai demands that my CEO "stop spreading the lie" that he threatened to **** my CEO's baby daughter, or claimed that he had gone to my CEO's house with a baseball bat intending to beat him to a pulp with it. Zero wasn't he one saying anything about it. The rest of the alliance watched Serp's LiveStream for that gem.

But what should I expect from a man whose only satisfaction is being able to scream on a VOIP, make empty threats in local, and beat women?



1.) Xolve is not, in any way, associated with The Marmite Collective. If you knew who he had been previously, you would know this.

2.) Rebirth. as a corporation got a Proteus kill. You were not in Rebirth., so kindly leave yourself out of mentioning that war.



It says that you are so worried about the past you don't care about the now. But please, harp on about the past.

we have been open since july so in those 5 little months we have done 429 bil in kills lol, thank you for making us look even better maybe you should do little more research before you run your mouth lol

Never send the inactive clown to do your smacktalking.

I predict less than a month before NighmareX is kicked out of his corporation to save face yet again.

I wouldn't say 40. Uwof was bloated with alts...drone fed and rebirth hand-me-downs and purgees. I love this stupid drama....its like so cool and stuff. Let's talk about it while I'm in a NPC corp. Keep looking stupid and totally out of the loop rebirth monkey.

So is it safe to say that Jason Hardwick/Domineren/Oooh Yeah is Rebirth's new forum warrior since Kai isn't able to post without looking like an idiot, and Nightmare seems to have given up? I mean, I'm all for laughs and stuff, but...

Hey rebirth guy, your videos suck....I'd rather watch gay pron....and I'm straight.

Another day in docked town. (with angry people)

Marmite FTW with sugar twin.

Go make another station camp attack video. lol

Breath in for 6 secs
Hold for 4 secs
Exhale slowly for 6 secs

Calmness and joy.

Your skills put me in awe. I'll shudup now. I dont pvp, I'm an opportunist.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_ext_id=1896934808 : nightmarex's fabulous history in eve

Join SniggWaffe and come fly with me and some other PL dudes, we will show you what real PvP looks like.

Tell me more. GÖÑ

And you have been living years in highsec and still think that a megathron hull sitting at zero on an undock is the PVP pinnacle in EVE.

Yeah we know. Please continue.

Marmite is up to 347.34 B since I posted that. So, that basically means that in the last day they have killed more in value than most of you scrublords have this whole month.

We are mercs.... we do damage as our clients request. 11 freighters and 16 jump freighters this month so far ..... and no, not all by Freight Club. Who do a great job on it.....

Nightmare...... I never said I was good at PVP. I am a merc and I am good at doing damage...any damage, any way possible.

Stand in line .....

I looked at the fit and 8 v 1 whatever the fit it would die so your point is what ?

Who cares about the proteus' fit.

And you are who?

I see nothing wrong wit hthis fi-OH MY ******* GOD WHO PUT AUTOCANNONS ON THAT THING KILL IT WITH FIRE

I give points for creativity. Its more a work of modern art than a fit.

Its because you are dense. Like Vegas, you don't quite have enough voltage between the ears to understand some of what I write.

Dear god... just because English isn't your primary language, doesn't mean you can **** up our forums with your drivel- learn the language or stick your regularly scheduled RUSRUS posting containment zone.

NightmareX. Some questions:

1. Who are you and why do you care so much?
2. Why is a guy with no involvement in this raging so hard?

I realize you do not understand sophisticated humour or sarcasm. Or perhaps you're from another country and you may not get everything in English. That's ok. Please tone down your mental implosion though.

Vegas you're not even at war with marmite right now. Ran out of isk and need to piggy back.

I think you're done son.

Learn to read. No, really. Learn to read. English.

Vegas is a lost cause.

Not much, same old, I am better then you ****, no you fail, no you fail, no youuuu fail, I said it first, No I said it first, mommmm, he did it again, my **** is bigger, no mine is bigger, smackk, bang, curse, fail, replies, and then starting all over again x 10.

I dont even read this bs anymore.... from anyone. Wast of your time. Play more Eve.....

That's probably also the reason it fell apart so many times..... I seem to like the new Kai way better.....

I just watched 30min of your Rebirth 4 tube..... A+

Professional intro, right kind of music, taking enough time for me to read texts, nice fights, right speed so it doesnt get boring, ...... very nice.

I want to do high sec station games, recruit me, lets have some fun yo!

Over 100 billion kills this month (4 Days) for Marmite and you dunked us right!
Damn your butt hurt is growing by the day lol. seriously Vegas you need to play more hello kitty.

Then next time don't run but fight those bad fitted drakes You re pathetic for making these stupid replies. Try something positive next time. Like "Good to see you are forming fleets and fight 3 alliances at the same time".

There is no careful planning, just tons of neutral logi and sebo'd gate camps. I know some people that do HS work and I would hardly call what they do "careful planning."

Sorry if i am not making much sense guys. I am just really upset over this loss and am trying to figure out how I could possibly come back from it.

Here's a hint..., now never post on my subforum again.

If they ran from your fleet, then you'd have no kills...meaning there'd be nothing to validate your side of the story.

Not liking the new hair style NightmareX..... shame on you.

Oh boy, NightmareX and Kai86. This thread will never end.

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1. Who knows, ***** and giggles probably.

2. Killboard padding. It's been shown that padding killboard with industry kills is simple to do. Even Gevlon, pretty much the worst EVE player I know managed to get up to 100b a month with ganking, and that's without even having wardecs. You guys have 15T over 44 months which is 340b/month. Over 230 players that's 1.47b/month/player on average. Hardly a difficult target to hit.

3. You shouldn't, but some of you do. Unfortunately for you, you hae chosen to follow Tora, who is a bit of a pleb. He's decided to get you guys fully behinds Gevlons propaganda and make you the fact of the anti-goons, and in doing so likes the throw around killboard stats as if it proves competency, which it doesn't as shown above. The result of that is responses from players calling you guys out on it.

4. I'm sure some of you do, but overall as a group the majority of you don't. Good fights usually involve losses, since they are the ones where you have the most excitement, when there's a chance you might lose. That doesn't fit well with Tora's desire to throw around 90+% efficiency ratings so the majority of your group has to killboard pad in safety to ensure that it gets upheld. Look through the marmite killboard and you'll see this evidenced. Like I mentioned in an earlier post, the war against SMA that Tora likes to throw about, 80% of the kill value came from ships with no guns. I guarantee if you dig down into the rest only a tiny fraction at best would have been good fights.

Nope, I live in null and only ever use alts in highsec and those alts are in NPC corps. Up until you got bought out by Gevlon I had barely an idea of who you even were, just another one of those wardec groups which are a dime a dozen. It's a known fact that if you are in a null group, multiple groups of highseccers will wardec you nearly constantly for easy kills, and if you've been in null a while you will have learned to work around it. Pretty much the only reason I poke you guys with stick on here is that Tora behaves like a child and it's pretty amusing to prod people like that.

I'm really not sure why people like you chose Marmite to jump into, but I'm sure you''ll do well at holding them up. Even if you look at well before the who anti-goon thing, they were considered to be the joke of merc corps. Not many people really consider them to be mercenaries, just "those guys you see in Jita" more often than not.

1. How thick are you? Scale of 1 to 10. We aren't trying to pad our killbaord then run around screaming "LOOK AT HOW RELEVANT WE ARE!" that's what you are trying to do. I'm just pointing out that when you scream about how amazing your killbaord is, it's crap in comparison with other people who are also padding their killboards. You are not elite PVPers just for ganking highsec players.
2. You really seem to be anti-CFC since you go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about how much you hate the goonies. You know, when you take a break from the go awful smacktalk you try.
3. lol, no I stated that some marmites, as in a small minority of them, may know how to PVP, but the vast majority as well as the overall direction of marmites is killboard padding. zkillbaord proves this, no matter how much you try to pretend it's not true. Go read it.
4. Nope, since other clients you just do jobs for. With Gevlon, you are following his every command as well as pushing his propaganda. Whatever he commands you to do you follow, that's leadership.
5. lol, you wish. Maybe when you finish school you can give title that a shot.

And oh yes, oh so many tears because of all of the industry players in highsec you gank.

1. So yes, for ***** and giggles.

2. Like stated back to Tora, we aren't the ones flaunting our killboards like they mean a damn thing. At no point have I ever said our killboards are amazing, yet you guys bang on about your all the time. And yet it's ****. My KB doesn't need to be great for me to see that yours is padded with easy kills. Seems you both missed the point, which is that the isk numbers alone on killboards mean nothing. It's the context that makes it a good killboard.

3. You didn't, but you do now. You do what Tora wants and expects, while he answers to Gevlon. Or are you suggesting Kai is now the leader of marmite?
And Kai may be that great, who knows? If we look at things the way you guys do though, and only look at the end kill numbers not the contexts, then loyalanon is ~10x better at PvP than Kai, FACT. In fact, even Gevlon is 4x better at empire PvP than Kai is. That's how it works, right?

4. As I said, I'm sure there are some of you that are looking for good fights, but you aren't the majority in your alliance. The majority is there to pad the killboard.

And as for the mad part, in what way am I mad? I think you are confusing madness with ridicule. Tora decided to sell out to Gevlon and chose to attack the CFC. that made me curious as to who you guys were. What I discovered was a group of risk averse merc wannabees well deserving of a fair amount of laughter, and so I hang around for the entertainment. The mere mention that you guys aren't "elite" seems to send most of you into a frenzy which is pretty spectacular to watch.

By all means though, if it makes you feel better, continue to assume that it must be because I or a friend was ganked by all your super eliteness and that this is all just tears, it affects me to the sum of zero. :D

1. I understand precisely what mercenaries are and I understand why you want your killboard to be padded. But you still can't claim with a straight face that it makes you elite.

2. Actually, most people don't give a **** that goons even exist, it's only vocal minorities that care one way or the other, and for the most part people don't even know why they hate the goons. When you ask them they say "cos they scam and stuff" or "because of donut!". I'd put forward that people wardeccing every highsec corp, many of which are filled with noobs are more of a cancer. Id also put forward that group like CODE are worse too. Some people in the ass end of null that one weekend a year come and spice up the trade hub, hardly the biggest issue in the game.

3. So pad your killboard, just don't claim it makes you elite PVPers for doing it. It makes you good at picking weak targets and nothing more. So if people want serious merc work done, they can go to one of the other groups and if they want someone to shoot industrial ships they can hire you, or you know, anyone with a handful of destroyers.

4. lol, I know him well enough. ;)

5. LOL. AMAZING. So you need to be smart to get a bunch of people to shoot unarmed ships for several years? Truly amazing. Thank you for the entertainment.

1. So you are elite killboard padders, not elite at PvP. gotcha.

2. OK, so why?

3. Erm, I'm beginning to wonder if you know how you work. As well as taking on contracts, you wardec groups that you know you can achieve easy risk free kills from and use them to bulk out your killboard. It's stuff that's been done since like the beginning of time and everyone knows about it. It still doesn't make you any better at being mercenaries, which most people agree marmite are to jokes of the merc world. You don't really hire marmite if you want stuff done.

4. Now that would be telling. Lets just say I've had first hand experience and he comes across as not too bright.

5. Yes, and that;s because other alliances aren't trying to pad their killboards. If an elite group of PVP pilots chose to pad their killboards they would wipe the floor with you. The problem is you are using killboard padding tactics that are known to generate very easy high values of kills (like Gevlon showed) then you are comparing yourself to people who are actually fighting properly. Of course your kill value will be higher. That's like comparing how many burgers a 5* restaurant chef cooks with a McDonalds employee. Of course the McdDonalds employee will cook more, but that doesn't make him a better chef.

1. No... a mercenaries job is to fulfill the requirements of the client. Padding the killboard is generally done off contract or on contracts where the goal is to generate isk value in kills. If I hired you to disrupt a corps mining operations, I'd be pretty pissed if you just padded your killboards with Jita ganks.

2. I explained why, I even pointed you to the information to view yourself. You simply screamed about how you are mercenaries therefore ganking easy targets makes you the mega elite. Still doesn't explain why a smaller mercenary alliance dunked you in short order if you are so much more elite, but ah well.

3. And you waardec other players. Not all of your wardecs are paid contracts. There's plenty you add just because they give you more easy targets.

4. You say "so much damage" but you're talking about years of totals. Broken down to an individual level it's nothing. Gevlon did 70x your groups damage player to player, and he's widely known as a complete nub. It doesn't take smarts to grind easy kills.

Edit: and still you avoid the whole Kai comment. Touched a nerve there did I? Did you suddenly realise that without breaking your own measure of success and taking context of kilsl into account you can't show he's better than Gevlon at empire PvP?

1. So all of your clients want just killmails, nothing else, and every one of your wardecs is a contract. Yeah, I call bullshit.

2. Absolutely, but you also pick easy targets to pad your killboard to make you look better than you are. Required, yes, elite, no. You are not elite PVPers just because you gank. You can beat around the bush as much as you want but you know that is a fact.

3. Ah so back to number 1 then. You wardec easy targets to pad your kb. You wouldnt randomly wardec a target too tough, like a certain merc corp 1/5th your size. and no, it doesn't mean that, but you are pretty bad. Look around mate, it's no secret that marmite are the joke of the merc world.

4. But it's not an achievement. Any ****** can get easy kills in highsec. What's amazing is that while you hunt easy prey, you've only achieve 15T in 3 years. 1.4b/month/member. CODE members can do that inside a day, and they automatically get blown up when they score a kill.

And yes, Gevlon is Gevlon, and he's a pretty bad player. But his ability to score kills outstrips Kai 4 times over. So earlier when you stated that nobody is as good as Kai at empire PVP, it was bullshit. A terribad player is clearly better than him if you are only looking at kill values like you do. You can;t have it both ways mate. Either kill values are all that matters or they aren't.

lol, this is just going to go on forever. high sec ganking is easy and has been proven so many times.

You're now getting to the point of ridiculous where you are demanding an industrial player go out ganking or facts that you could obtain from literally anyone with half a brain or just by looking at the killboards for gankers you'll simply ignore.

Marmite are a joke, and everyone knows that. Just because you broke away from a PVP group to join them doesn't suddenly mean all their members are great at PvP and one day you'll have to accept that. Until then I'm gonna be the bigger man and walk away leaving you to stew in your impotent rage.

EDIT: Oh, and INB4 you fruitlessly claim this as some kind of hollow victory.

To be honest tora you're the pot calling the kettle black. You can have more numbers online and your guys still won't engage us, even in jita and uedama.

Empty threats.

Convo after putting dec in

How the war went

Killed more Mermaids than Lemmings

The End

Besides, it's a fact that Kai86 is worse at PvP than Gevlon, by marmites own measurements. Just because NightmareX seems to be massively in love with him and wants to choke on his rod, doesn't mean he's suddenly going to turn the tide of an entire nub alliance.

So if kai isn't on, but everyone else is, it still doesnt count?

I do have the combat logs from me trying to tackle Enzee's macherial. By looking at the logs, after I narrowed them down a bit, not much stayed behind to fight BAW(I was just tackle). No worries, everyone is there.

Combat Logs

Also if I'm not mistaken;

This is the last time Rebirth fought together

Yes, every response is butthurt. If that's what you need to think to get on with your life, then feel free. Considering you keep saying "but we're ex-rebirth!" and most people respond with "... who?" it's clear that you really need to feel relevant, especially since you are pretty much just hub/pipe campers now. Nice to see that it takes only a couple of lines about your boyfriend to get you to tl;dr ragepost a defense though :D

lol, is that what you told yourself? Other than you, I don't think I've seen anyone else saying anything remotely close to that. As far as I can see you were just "yet another empire wardeccer". Just a hint: being the most feared usually means people need to have heard of you.

Ooh scary! A video! Will this be followed by a bunch of people telling you it's boring, then your patented tl;dr wall responses to every post where you tell everyone they are wrong for not being entertained?

Uh no, It's kind of hard to explain because only you chant your nonsense. Nobody else cares that Rebirth even existed for a brief moment. You might get a big rush when you say "I'm ex-rebirth", but nobody else cares about an irrelevant group that was good at disbanding :p
You need a reality check, stat. If you were the "most feared", then everyone would know who you are. It would be an undeniable truth. But since the only person stating that is you, it looks more like a kid puffing out his chest and screaming "I'm big and tough, honest".

No, it won't. It'll be half hour to an hour of incredibly dull fights, sped up and with some random music you like, and yet still dull. I'm positive there will even be the "moments of glory" where you weren't even in high sec at all, but it won't prove anything. Anyone with eyes can see where the majority of your kills come from, so a video of you in a system with red numbers won't actually change that.

By the way, I like how there's a common trend in your posts where everything anyone else says is butthurt or "waah waah", when all I have to do is call you irrelevant and you explode into defensive rageposting. You certainly are a source of entertainment when I'm bored at least :D

That's what I thought. I accept your admission of failure.

Ha, I very much doubt it. I've seen your previous posts, your utter inability to accept criticism and your lack of understanding of how something can be enjoyed as a participant, but not as a viewer. I can almost guarantee that the responses will be that your video is boring, to which your responses will be "omg such butthurt", "waah waah" and "this is all because everyone has something against me". After several pages of back and forth trolling and bad smacktalk, the thread will be closed.

lol, you aren't very bright are you. That was my whole point. If most people have never even heard of you, how can you possibly claimed to have been the most feared? Sure YOU know your corp existed and YOU think you were hardcore, but that's not proof of anything. You were just another wardec corp, nothing more.

Yes. Ignorant people rarely learn from their mistakes, and it's clear from the way you respond that you attitude is no different.

Uh no, you were taking the light criticism and noting it down, discarding everything else as tears. You can selectively pick out the criticism if you want, but then nothing will change, you won;t learn anything and you'll remain ignorant. It was clear that there were several pieces of genuine criticism that many people agreed with, which you read then simply ignored because those people were "butthurt".

I sincerely doubt that, but only time will tell.

Because I was born in 0.0, and have absolutely no involvement in empire, right?

And yes, I'm sure people you dec have heard of you. That doesn't make you most feared lol. Show me where it's evidenced that most people feared you guys.

LOL?
I'm talking out of my ass because I'm asking you to validate your claim that rebirth is the pinnacle of empire PvP? I've provided zkb, which shows you guys doing the Marmite hub and pipe camping, while you've shown nothing to show you guys eing elite at PvP. I'd provide things showing how little people cared about rebirth too, but it seems that people cared so little you were barely mentioned. Oh wait, they didn't post about you through fear, right?

Yes, I saw where you selectively picked out the criticism you wanted to agree with.

Most of the criticisms I read were valid, and on many occasions they explained why it was boring. A criticism isn't invalid just because you don't like it.

Sounds like nightmare has a hard on for Kai, when's the wedding?

lol, OK, so show us these facts. Show us where we can see that rebirth was globally feared for the 5 minutes they weren't disbanded and that Kai makes us all shudder in our boots at the mere mention of his name.

The fact is, Kai is a nobody, you are a nobody and rebirth where a failed group of nobodies. Just because you want to oil Kai up and chant his name doesn't mean the rest of the game needs to agree.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm a somebody, but then I'm not the one going on and on and on about how I'm ex rebirth like it means a damn thing.

You speak as if you are the Alpha Males in highsec that other mercs are scared of.

1. How can you claim that is old? Before rebirth joined Marmite that is the last fight you all had together. In rebirth history, thats recent. That video was during your peak and you lost.

2. Did you just say to my alliance and BAW that you have the balls to fight outnumbered? When have you NOT outnumbered us? Do you only undock when you are outnumbered? You spared us every time?

3. Break-A-Wish foundation is the alliance that Rebirth(God Squad) is/was modeled after. If you want Merc respect, they are US timezone.

LOL. Typical of people like you. You can provide absolutely zero evidence, and it's my job to go and and find people that back your claim. Let's face it mate, if you were "most feared" that would be an undeniable fact. You would have pages and pages of evidence without even having to look. Instead all you have is your word, because rebirth were nothing.

Hahahahahahaha. Kai is well known to you, because you are so madly in love with him. I doubt most people know who he is or care what you think he can do. He is a nobody.

LOL. Yes, you know what you ****** little corp of nobodies did. That doesn't mean that when you say "hey man, I'm ex-rebirth" that we're all going to drop the the floor to in respect. It means nothing to anyone else because nobody cares about a disbanded group of wannabe pvpers who thought they were the best. You can keep saying "yeah, but I know" as much as you want, that won't suddenly make you have a reputation. You have to earn a reputation, not just state that you have one and hope people just agree.

No, I didn't want to post with my main, because I didn't want to get kicked out of your corp

Fly safe....

Nightmare has no response to the last 2 pages of people dismantling his claims. -1 marmite

Last year I made some changes to my corp. I removed the hub campers and took in hunters only.

Ushwi was one player that didn't make the cut.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/44242461/

Kinda glad I did now.....

It's not bad, it's even worse Stupid fit is stupid fit. It doesn't make you a pro pvp player.

Better

Less and less trade hub camping, more and more proper fleets.

If you think it's a smart thing to do, go crazy