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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:28:00 -
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Greetings, CSM members! Due to confirmed accusations that members of Pandemic Legion are using no-local, insta-warp and warp-to-cloaked-ship exploits on Tranquility and obvious fact (due to killmail comments and their posts in relevant thread) that large part of their alliance knew this and supported these exploiters - we, people that support this petition, propose removal of the title of Alliance Tournament Champion from Pandemic Legion.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 17:45:27
Originally by: darius mclever ok so 2 PL guys are cheating and you want to punish the whole alliance?
Yes, because large part of alliance knew this. It's like dope - when two sportsman caught, entire sports federations are punished.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 18:13:27
Originally by: Sokratesz Lol.
Yeah, I think even if alliance consists of perfect pvp'ers and roamers, but if it covers cheaters and exploiters, it have no right for Alliance Tournament Champion title.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces who thinks that because everyone in PL likes to troll threads, they are in cahoots with Monkeysphere (an alleged cheater).
Trolling equals cheating, don't you know?
Originally by: Dianeces Consequently, he's lashing out in an attempt to...well, actually, I'm not sure what this is an attempt to do. In any event, the OP is certainly serious.
Ok.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 19:55:21
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida There is a reason why collective punishment is a big no-no in the real world.
When sportsmans are caught with dope, their federations are punished. Alliance Tournament is clearly a sport event.
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida One cannot reasonably take punitive measures against individuals for crimes they did not themselves commit.
I think that Pandemic Legion administration have commited covering of exploiters by themselves.
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida But good luck with your smear campaign
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 21:55:27 Edited by: Jeremey on 21/04/2010 21:54:56
Originally by: Ephemeron Has the tournament been won using any bug exploit?
I think not, it haven't been used.
Originally by: Ephemeron If there was no cheating in the tournament, you cannot disqualify the win.
No, you can. Because in tournament alliances participate as organizations, not as random gangs of players. And when the exact same organization covers (before attending tournament) exploiters and cheaters, it questions their right to participate in tournament.
Originally by: Ephemeron
Rules must be followed, otherwise you are no better than the cheater you seek to punish. No better.
"Alliance Tournament has been won by alliance covering exploiters" - good title, isn't it? I think it disregards the whole idea of alliance tournament more than collective punishment on pandemic legion.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.21 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Since this has reached enough votes I can do nothing but raise it for the next meeting :D
Thank you. Can you please also discuss a question about possibility that Pandemic Legion used their illegal UI mod during Alliance Tournament? Because it seems exactly that UI mod eventually mutated in discussed exploit, which used by some members of Pandemic Legion.
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Jeremey
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Posted - 2010.04.22 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jack bubu Ban! Ban! Ban!
Ban everyone who kills macro ratters and destroys their reallife income - not fair!
Ban!
When they killed macroratters, no one cared. But when The Monkeysphere started to kill normal players - everything came to light.
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