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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.04.27 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Karuck
I haven't replied simply because I do not know the answer to your question. I have forwarded it to another dev which should reply to you shortly.
Thank you for the reply. Second- I apologize for being a d*ck about it. I need to work on that. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
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CCP Prism X
Gallente C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.27 08:33:00 -
[92]
Bellum: After spending some time ensuring that the colour tags and icons worked properly I finally figured out why you kept capitalizing STATE there. Long time no see obscure and useless tab. We weren't really changing the overview in this as much as it was indirectly affected by the addition of new floating point alliance standings so it wasn't forgotten as much as never scoped in.
However, I'm not going to pretend it's not nuts and it seems like it seems to be a case that easy enough to handle (and having said this it obviously will not be). However, as it is not directly related to our feature (at least I'm quite certain I cannot make a case for that to already overbooked managers of the disciplines in question) I'm going to have to be a spoil-sport and promise you it will not change for the initial release of Tyrannis.
But I will create a defect on myself and, if the hamster-gods allow, I will find time to pull it in as soon as possible.
P.S. Are half my message always in parenthesis? ~ Prism X EvE Database Developer Relocating your character to a cozy, secure container since 2006. Relocating your cozy, secure container to the EVE cemetery since 2008. |
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Irongut
H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.04.27 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Karuck
By default I think our privacy settings are pretty safe, unless you have high standings already towards people you don't want to see your information on EVE Gate. That's why you should go now and clean up your standings list.
NO. I have standings set to a number of people who I used to fly with in corporations long gone, alts of friends in my current corp, etc. I have no interest in EVE Gate. I do not want the people I have blue to be able to see who each other are. I do not want people in my corp to see who my personal blues are. Some of them may not be friends with each other, some of them may even be enemies. I should not have to adjust my standings, they do what I want them to do atm. YOU are the ones introducing features which threaten the privacy and security of myself and my contacts so YOU should make this opt in.
Learn a lesson from Google's screw up with Buzz and make EVE Gate opt in from the start. Do not repeat such an obvious, high profile and costly mistake.
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CCP Karuck
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Posted - 2010.04.27 15:07:00 -
[94]
New build of EVE Gate is up and open for public testing.
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iP0D
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Posted - 2010.04.27 18:03:00 -
[95]
Where's the opt-in / opt-out option?
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Ephemeral Waves
Silver Snake Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.04.28 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Karuck New build of EVE Gate is up and open for public testing.
You've still got default privacy settings allowing people to see my settings and there is no opt-out option.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.28 03:02:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 28/04/2010 03:04:14
Originally by: Ephemeral Waves
Originally by: CCP Karuck New build of EVE Gate is up and open for public testing.
You've still got default privacy settings allowing people to see my settings and there is no opt-out option.
This ^^. It's getting tiring to log on just to wipe all my contacts from Sisi on every mirror so they can't be mined for intel.
On the plus side, checking evemail from the web browser is win, but being able to opt-out/not get opted-in by default is the first priority.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.28 03:13:00 -
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Biggest issue: You are still trying to merge in game "Target Identification" with "Friend".
"Friend" does not necessarily imply "Do Not Shoot" "Do Not Shoot" does not necessarily imply "Friend"
You are introducing this "feature" that negatively impacts in game target identification if it is used.
Eve gate should use separate, out of game standings.
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Latex Sandals
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Posted - 2010.04.28 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
EDIT: Found the opt-out. In the top, there is a small link called "Profile Settings" click that, then you can select "No Pilots" on the leftmost drop-down box of the three rows of dropdown boxes.
That's not opt-out. That's just privacy settings. Opt-out is "my character does not show up on evegate at all. ever. period."
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Hun Jakuza
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.04.28 10:21:00 -
[100]
How about the 6 years old neutral overview settings bug ? When will CCP change it ? Annoying me when i removed neuts from overview everyone dissapear gate,wrecks,WTs etc.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.04.28 20:21:00 -
[101]
Originally by: CCP Prism X Bellum: After spending some time ensuring that the colour tags and icons worked properly I finally figured out why you kept capitalizing STATE there. Long time no see obscure and useless tab. We weren't really changing the overview in this as much as it was indirectly affected by the addition of new floating point alliance standings so it wasn't forgotten as much as never scoped in.
However, I'm not going to pretend it's not nuts and it seems like it seems to be a case that easy enough to handle (and having said this it obviously will not be). However, as it is not directly related to our feature (at least I'm quite certain I cannot make a case for that to already overbooked managers of the disciplines in question) I'm going to have to be a spoil-sport and promise you it will not change for the initial release of Tyrannis.
But I will create a defect on myself and, if the hamster-gods allow, I will find time to pull it in as soon as possible.
P.S. Are half my message always in parenthesis?
Prism X:
THANK YOU for your reply, and if you can fix this you name will be worshiped in the temples of high sec war fighters everywhere for all eternity!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
CCP Karuck: Thank you as well for finding the correct person to help with this issue! -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
Telorast
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.29 02:59:00 -
[102]
Will it be possible to link all your characters together somehow? Or do I have to redo all my settings on each character?
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Wunop Girms
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Posted - 2010.04.29 05:33:00 -
[103]
EVEGate Calendar: Please provide settings to adjust timezone and date format so that events can be scheduled using eve time or localtime. Please also remove the hideous mutant american date format from my sight and replace with ddmmyy.
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.05.01 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wunop Girms EVEGate Calendar: Please provide settings to adjust timezone and date format so that events can be scheduled using eve time or localtime. Please also remove the hideous mutant american date format from my sight and replace with ddmmyy.
Or yyyymmdd... Or allow for localization.
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wakalaka
Information And Entropy
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Posted - 2010.05.02 06:34:00 -
[105]
Edited by: wakalaka on 02/05/2010 06:34:36
Originally by: CCP Karuck EVE Gate only uses personal standings for privacy and security checks, your corp or alliance contact lists don't affect EVE Gate at all.
Because of EVE Gate you will make people, various examples given in this thread and others, to rework their personal standings. Since you're putting personal standings at the service of Eve Gate. You're the designer and God, but maybe you should find a less intrusive way. Unless the new system will be soo convenient, but I don't see it yet.
Quote: Regarding that 5 levels are not enough for personal standings and you need folders back, I can tell you this: Post release we will create labels for contacts, which will allow you to group your contacts any way you like. It will basically be the same system you see in mail already. We do not have a time frame for this feature yet, but summer-ish is a safe bet.
I recommend *strongly* to include this at the final release.
I thank you for bringing Eve Gate, though I still don't see how I can capitalize upon it as a trader that I cannot do already. But my contact lists are sacred secrets, and I don't like you messing with them. If I have them in the Eve Online address book, it's just because it let's me see when someone is online/offline, otherwise I wouldn't.
Folders/tags for contact classification is important; the personal standing number isn't enough (or it was, until you dumbed down the quantification).
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.04 01:59:00 -
[106]
They can keep the War target overview bugs for all I care. One of the things that is incredibly concerning for me is the complete removal of the ability to drag and drop contacts into re nameable folders. This is a HUGE nerf to intel gathering, and will hit War Declaration based corporations the hardest.
On TQ I utilise different folders for a variety of things, Super Capital pilots, Falcon pilots, Diplomats, idiots who hotdrop in system x, members of corporation X. This is a massive loss and major setback for me, no longer will I pay able to watch a set of players online activities as easily, and will have to resort back to the regular notepad for storing names of future Wartargets etc, and you can pretty much forget everything else.
Is there any plans to be able to have customisable folders where I can drag and drop contacts in, either the old system that exists now, or some new kind of system where you can add labels and tags to people. Because right now I am less than impressed. ---
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CCP Prism X
Gallente C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.04 11:23:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Suitonia Folders!!
Explanation.
Probably not the answer you were hoping for but at least it is an answer. ~ Prism X EvE Database Developer Relocating your character to a cozy, secure container since 2006. Relocating your cozy, secure container to the EVE cemetery since 2008. |
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.04 15:07:00 -
[108]
Thanks for the quick response. ---
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Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:41:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Latex Sandals EvE-Gate needs to be Opt-IN. Not Opt-out.
You are forcing people to log onto this thing so that they can protect their privacy and that is illegal in many places and certainly illogical in any place.
This.
Originally by: Irongut NO. I have standings set to a number of people who I used to fly with in corporations long gone, alts of friends in my current corp, etc. I have no interest in EVE Gate. I do not want the people I have blue to be able to see who each other are. I do not want people in my corp to see who my personal blues are. Some of them may not be friends with each other, some of them may even be enemies. I should not have to adjust my standings, they do what I want them to do atm. YOU are the ones introducing features which threaten the privacy and security of myself and my contacts so YOU should make this opt in.
Learn a lesson from Google's screw up with Buzz and make EVE Gate opt in from the start. Do not repeat such an obvious, high profile and costly mistake.
And this.
CCP, correct it. _______ With the NGE, I'm sorry about the mistake we made. We screwed up and didn't listen to the fans when we should have. - John Smedley, CEO of Sony Online Entertainment |
shady trader
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Posted - 2010.05.15 22:25:00 -
[110]
Since you have made it auto opt in with no full opt out. Will we have the option to set out contact preferences before this goes live? Other then altering our standings as a temporary measure before it goes live then blocking everyone from seeing our contact list after it goes live?
I can see a bigger scramble to get on eve gate then normally seen try and log into eve after patch deployment.
Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
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DJ Skrull
Caldari We Are The Walrus
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Posted - 2010.05.16 06:40:00 -
[111]
Hey, so I was reading the blog and I came across this little nugget:
"What do my personal standings do in game?
Anyone who youæve set to excellent standings has free add/remove access to your jet-cans."
So does this mean that from now on, only pilots you've set to excellent standings can access your jet-can, effectively eliminating can-flipping??
My gut tells me no, but one can always hope. EVEntually |
shady trader
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Posted - 2010.05.16 12:50:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DJ Skrull Hey, so I was reading the blog and I came across this little nugget:
"What do my personal standings do in game?
Anyone who youæve set to excellent standings has free add/remove access to your jet-cans."
So does this mean that from now on, only pilots you've set to excellent standings can access your jet-can, effectively eliminating can-flipping??
My gut tells me no, but one can always hope.
No, it means that they can put items in (Something that is normally blocked) and take items out without being flagged for you to shoot at. Macrointel, the place were the nature order of the universe does not hold sway. Pirates and ore thief's are congratulated by carebears for the actions. |
Cigic
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Posted - 2010.05.18 17:05:00 -
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Another very good reason to stop playing eve for good. I guess marketing team concluded that "space" facebook will create more dollars than developing and protecting best pvp game machanics. Maybe thats good for my rl life so maybe I should thank you.
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.18 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: shady trader
Originally by: DJ Skrull Hey, so I was reading the blog and I came across this little nugget:
"What do my personal standings do in game?
Anyone who youæve set to excellent standings has free add/remove access to your jet-cans."
So does this mean that from now on, only pilots you've set to excellent standings can access your jet-can, effectively eliminating can-flipping??
My gut tells me no, but one can always hope.
No, it means that they can put items in (Something that is normally blocked) and take items out without being flagged for you to shoot at.
And it is yet another reason why Tyra is fail and why you should never ever ever set anyone as a personal blue with spacebook. If I find out my corp members have +10 personal blues, they are getting kicked from corp.
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Trinity Chaw
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Posted - 2010.05.22 13:41:00 -
[115]
Majority of peeps have iq around 100. So we should make verything in world that they feel in control or competent. Majority sounds and doesnt mean bigger market or more bucks.
ccp had very nice targeted market of smarter and more adult peeps. You could have expanded slowly with business plan focused on your specific type of customers.
Strategy that you've chosen will backfire to you guys. Cos wider market is not loyal. They will come and leave in large numbers, cos their expectations its easy to meet so your competiotion will be large. Youll lose as you are already losing your loyal customers and that will be the end of EVE. Proably cos deicion maker is not smartest guy himself or just greedy and short term focused.
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Esker Sheep
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Posted - 2010.05.26 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Cigic Edited by: Cigic on 18/05/2010 17:41:56 Another very good reason to stop playing eve for good. I guess marketing team concluded that "space" facebook will create more dollars than developing and protecting best pvp game machanics. Maybe thats good for my rl life so maybe I should thank you.
-another proof that market driven economy, globalism and democracy hurt lot of peeps
Whilst I can understand why some people won't have a use for EVE GATE, I'm don't understand the vitriolic opposition to its existence. I'm looking forward to being able to manage my EVE mail from outside the game. I have limited play time, but can spare a few minutes to check and respond to mails. This means that I can be involved in corp matters, even without being logged in.
I'm hoping that this is just the start and that it will become possible to carry out all manner of station bound activities from EVE gate. Things like managing skills, orders, manufacturing etc. Wouldn't it benefit everyone if they didn't have to fire up the full EVE client just to change a skill, or send a mail?
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mkmin
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Posted - 2010.05.26 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Esker Sheep
Originally by: Cigic Edited by: Cigic on 18/05/2010 17:41:56 Another very good reason to stop playing eve for good. I guess marketing team concluded that "space" facebook will create more dollars than developing and protecting best pvp game machanics. Maybe thats good for my rl life so maybe I should thank you.
-another proof that market driven economy, globalism and democracy hurt lot of peeps
Whilst I can understand why some people won't have a use for EVE GATE, I'm don't understand the vitriolic opposition to its existence. I'm looking forward to being able to manage my EVE mail from outside the game. I have limited play time, but can spare a few minutes to check and respond to mails. This means that I can be involved in corp matters, even without being logged in.
I'm hoping that this is just the start and that it will become possible to carry out all manner of station bound activities from EVE gate. Things like managing skills, orders, manufacturing etc. Wouldn't it benefit everyone if they didn't have to fire up the full EVE client just to change a skill, or send a mail?
Letting people do market orders and manufacturing in failbook gives some people an unfair advantage. It means people who don't have access to a high end phone, or who don't work a desk job won't be able to play video games all day and won't be able to compete. It means there will be ever decreasing profit margins and be a major nerf to the industrial field. But that's not what really bugs me.
What bugs me most about failbook is CCPs attitude amounting to 'youz all my bichuz and iz gonna doo wutz I sez cuz i haz ur muniez.' They are not creating a social interaction tool. They are not creating a time management tool. They are creating a griefing tool. It's a way for pirates, hackers, gankers, and griefers to gather full intel on YOU. They will know where YOU are, who your friends are, and your activity patterns whenever they want and will be able to come and hunt YOU down and kill YOU. And CCP is supporting this. CCP already fukt it up and published everyone's API info once through failbook, proving their incompetence in web programming and in their complete lack of concern about customer privacy. Failbook is the kind of mistake that makes games die, and with CCP's attitude about their customers they would deserve it.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.26 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Though that's pretty antisocial
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