So a module that's meant to make active tanks better than buffer for small gang/solo pvp is OP because it almost succeeded.


OK.

Better ? how is that fair for armor tankers ? show me a single rep armor setup that can even come close to the rep power of an ASB. And if your counter is that you can put an ASB on an armor ship then they need to add at least 1 more medium slot to every armor ship to "Rebalance" fairly. Im not posting on the forums for the 1st time in 3 years of playing the game because this is my sole opinion. I am doing so because a lot of people I know that fly armor find that its not fair.

Having already gone up against this mod in an actual fight I learned 1st hand how OP it was. I did not die to the complete noob that was flying the drake at 3-4 months old. But I nearly did, the only reason I made it out alive was not because I won but because I used my PvP skill to position myself properly to burn out of his point range. This would not be so disturbing if not for what I was in. I was in a Proteus with 140k EHP pushing near 1000 DPS with an overloaded speed of 1400 m/s. For those of you who don't know those stats are right on par with lower tier Battleships (Save the speed) and it was a cruiser size ship which means he would be hitting me for even less due to my signature radius. Even with all those odds in my favor I almost lost a 3 billion isk ship to a complete noob with 4 months worth of SP and no prior PvP experience. I wanted to go back for 2nds but had no way in which I could refit to counter what he had other than fitting a new ship with some ASB's of my own.

I don't think you're clear on how Sig Radius works, especially since I think you're MWDing (I don't know of any popular Buffer 100mn AB Proteus fits, but there's always something new).

If you had trouble escaping from a Drake when you had a 300m/s speed advantage in your favor, welp.

Finally, looking at the numbers (from a Drake with Heavies, an X-L ASB, Amp, 2 Invulns, 3 BCUs, and a DC2 [yes, I know it doesn't all actually fit]), he would have been able to tank you with the ASB for around 45s on Charges (call it 60s if he's good at managing, cause there's a little extra tank there), then another maybe 3 cycles (12s) on his cap before his 60s reload.

During that 72s, and the 50s he survives vs your 1k DPS (not long enough to reload), he can do 54,290 Kinetic Damage to your Proteus, assuming your speed does nothing to reduce the damage from scourge furies (it will).

So, I call bull on your Proteus's numbers or will have to call you on bad piloting if you weren't able to hold him down to bash his skull in when you had a speed advantage like that.

I don't think you're clear on how Sig Radius works, especially since I think you're MWDing (I don't know of any popular Buffer 100mn AB Proteus fits, but there's always something new).

If you had trouble escaping from a Drake when you had a 300m/s speed advantage in your favor, welp.

Finally, looking at the numbers (from a Drake with Heavies, an X-L ASB, Amp, 2 Invulns, 3 BCUs, and a DC2 [yes, I know it doesn't all actually fit]), he would have been able to tank you with the ASB for around 45s on Charges (call it 60s if he's good at managing, cause there's a little extra tank there), then another maybe 3 cycles (12s) on his cap before his 60s reload.

During that 72s, and the 50s he survives vs your 1k DPS (not long enough to reload), he can do 54,290 Kinetic Damage to your Proteus, assuming your speed does nothing to reduce the damage from scourge furies (it will).

So, I call bull on your Proteus's numbers or will have to call you on bad piloting if you weren't able to hold him down to bash his skull in when you had a speed advantage like that.

I don't think you're clear on how Sig Radius works, especially since I think you're MWDing (I don't know of any popular Buffer 100mn AB Proteus fits, but there's always something new).

If you had trouble escaping from a Drake when you had a 300m/s speed advantage in your favor, welp.

Finally, looking at the numbers (from a Drake with Heavies, an X-L ASB, Amp, 2 Invulns, 3 BCUs, and a DC2 [yes, I know it doesn't all actually fit]), he would have been able to tank you with the ASB for around 45s on Charges (call it 60s if he's good at managing, cause there's a little extra tank there), then another maybe 3 cycles (12s) on his cap before his 60s reload.

During that 72s, and the 50s he survives vs your 1k DPS (not long enough to reload), he can do 54,290 Kinetic Damage to your Proteus, assuming your speed does nothing to reduce the damage from scourge furies (it will).

So, I call bull on your Proteus's numbers or will have to call you on bad piloting if you weren't able to hold him down to bash his skull in when you had a speed advantage like that.

Guys I have a more expensive ship that means I should be able to pwn 2 month old newbs easily WTF CCP

So a module that's meant to make active tanks better than buffer for small gang/solo pvp is OP because it almost succeeded.


OK.

Dear god mate. You are fail. I mean holy hell. I fly drakes all the time. The is no way buffer or ASB fit I would go near a prot with out back up. If you aren't fail fit you easily have 80-90+ resist to kinetic. If you nearly lost you should just biomass yourself.

You've never flown a buffer fit, have you? Doesn't matter what your resists are

Waah! Waah! I tried to gank a noob in my bil isk t3 and almost got my arse handed to me. Hax!

You've never flown a buffer fit, have you? Doesn't matter what your resists are, if the enemy has pointed you and you can't break their dual x-large ancillary shield booster 2,000 dps tank, YOU'RE GOING TO DIE.