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JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.09 15:35:00 -
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Which moon minerals will be used to create technetium for upcoming alchemy changes
Speculate ... |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.07.09 16:16:00 -
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"guys tell me what I should buy based on a rumor spawned from a single blue post"
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Capital Group
DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2012.07.09 16:44:00 -
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I think the important point to take away from this discussion is that everyone should panic sell their tech to buy orders RIGHT NOW! |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2012.07.09 16:58:00 -
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I would expect Base Metals to be involved, Maybe Nanites to, maybe a drop of spreadsheets.
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2012.07.09 18:07:00 -
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The original plan called for catalyst materials available via FW LP stores, but, well, that plan was suddenly and unexpectedly recalled "for additional review."
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Ninyania alCladdyth
McLuvin AstroDynamics
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Posted - 2012.07.09 19:03:00 -
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Stockpile Pyerite at all costs. |
OllieNorth
Recidivists Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.07.09 20:39:00 -
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I heard that exotic dancers are going to be the new tech bottleneck due to having to trade them to the Russians to get the materials. |
Cookiez Yum
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.09 21:30:00 -
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THULLIUM! because aliens |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
332
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Posted - 2012.07.09 21:50:00 -
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Trit. Tech will be made out of Trit to compensate for the upcoming Mining barge nerf.
-RubyPorto
IB4TS |
SegaPhoenix
The Peace Keepers
Guardian Knights Citizens
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Posted - 2012.07.09 23:24:00 -
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Cookiez Yum wrote:THULLIUM! because aliens
Please this. |
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cigarellos
Trade Federation Directorate
Trade Federation Alliance
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Posted - 2012.07.10 00:00:00 -
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Bob Saget. |
Dersk
90040045
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Posted - 2012.07.10 00:45:00 -
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cigarellos wrote:Bob Saget.
... only because it's less useful than thulium. |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
344
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Posted - 2012.07.10 01:05:00 -
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cigarellos wrote:Bob Saget.
You're just saying that because of what he did to that girl in 1990.
-RubyPorto
IB4TS |
Srioghal moDhream
B and T Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.10 14:01:00 -
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OllieNorth wrote:I heard that exotic dancers are going to be the new tech bottleneck due to having to trade them to the Russians to get the materials.
I thought russians exported exotic dancers? |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.11 23:37:00 -
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it's actually really obvious what moon mineral it would be |
Death ToU
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.07.12 00:06:00 -
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Cheese! Moons are made of cheese, Yo! |
Pipa Porto
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.07.12 00:08:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:it's actually really obvious what moon mineral it would be
Gonna make a public prediction, or are you going to wait for the change and try to do a smug "I knew it?"
-RubyPorto
IB4TS |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
813
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Posted - 2012.07.12 17:05:00 -
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Techetium is element 73. Hafnium is element 72. Hafnium + Hydrogen isotopes = Technetium
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:45:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:it's actually really obvious what moon mineral it would be Gonna make a public prediction, or are you going to wait for the change and try to do a smug "I knew it?"
no I have no interest in pubbie cred i just like posting the unvarnished truth every so often and watching people ignore it |
Srioghal moDhream
B and T Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:55:00 -
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I predict that in the future something will happen. |
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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:22:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:it's actually really obvious what moon mineral it would be Gonna make a public prediction, or are you going to wait for the change and try to do a smug "I knew it?"
The statement was merely "It should be obvious." Knowing what it is was implied, of course, but not said, because, well...it should be obvious. 
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Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
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Posted - 2012.07.14 00:04:00 -
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Hey, yo, otec bros. Tech is about 100k units away from taking off. I've been expecting 100s of 1000s of units to hit the market for almost a day now.
I cashed out a "falling knife catch" at 170k pu yesterday, and I'm going to feel pretty stupid if it blows through to 180 or beyond... |
EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.19 15:47:00 -
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oh dear me it appears we already invaded the regions that held the obvious mineral for this |
kyrieee
Doctrine.
FEARLESS.
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Posted - 2012.07.19 16:55:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:oh dear me it appears we already invaded the regions that held the obvious mineral for this
A dumb post
nbs |
Claire Voyant
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Posted - 2012.07.19 17:19:00 -
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Hint: Alchemy = buy oxytopes. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
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Posted - 2012.07.19 18:21:00 -
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Claire Voyant wrote:Hint: Alchemy = buy my oxytopes.
ftfy.
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Heimdallofasgard
Apex Overplayed Coalition
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Posted - 2012.07.19 19:01:00 -
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BANG!
... and the Cobalt... is gone...
Kick Heim. |
Claire Voyant
135
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Posted - 2012.07.19 22:03:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Claire Voyant wrote:Hint: Alchemy = buy my oxytopes. ftfy.
Thank you Core, but under the rules of the OOTEC I am not allowed to endorse the buying of oxytopes from any individual seller. |
Dave stark
Bombardier Inc
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Posted - 2012.07.19 23:03:00 -
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so if i understand this right (i'm clueless about moon goo and production and junk like that) the new alchemy things means you can make tech from other stuff. yes?
so, will tech drop in price or will other stuff go up in price as every one starts making tech?
i'm guessing prices rising?
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Ravenclaw2kk
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.07.19 23:39:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:so if i understand this right (i'm clueless about moon goo and production and junk like that) the new alchemy things means you can make tech from other stuff. yes?
so, will tech drop in price or will other stuff go up in price as every one starts making tech?
i'm guessing prices rising?
Tech (and Tech) products will go down and Cobalt will rise (including crystalline carb and anything made with it) |
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Charles Baker
Federal Mineral Acquisition
VORTEX RISING
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Posted - 2012.07.20 03:30:00 -
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Highsec Tears and a childs wish |
Ravenclaw2kk
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.07.20 13:43:00 -
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well seeing as Tech has already taken a massive dive this month, about 25%, it seems dreams may be coming true.
Tech and nannotransistors are taking a nose dive. The cobalt market is kinda screwy as people are holding stocks too see what happens. The crystalline Carb market price has increased by 50% but trade volume is low, it will take some time for T2 producers to get used to the new prices and are holding back their manufacturing chains hoping for a drop. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:10:00 -
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Heimdallofasgard wrote:BANG!... and the Cobalt... is gone...
My only question, and I leave it for more diligent people that I to figure out, is this: Precisely when did Cobalt go insane, and precisely when did the dev blog appear? |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
259
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Posted - 2012.07.20 18:53:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Heimdallofasgard wrote:BANG!... and the Cobalt... is gone... My only question, and I leave it for more diligent people that I to figure out, is this: Precisely when did Cobalt go insane, and precisely when did the dev blog appear?
I think there was a 30 second delay
An' then [email protected], he come scramblin outta theTerminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system'scrashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children' |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1175
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Posted - 2012.07.21 00:40:00 -
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Copypasta FTW.
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Quick calc, "initial draft" tech alchemy is 10 Plat Tech = 100 cobalt + (100-95=)5 platinum + 1h of fuel for 3000+tf (which would be 20 fuel blocs or around 350k ISK).
So that's 1 PT = 10 cobalt + 0.5 plat + 35k ISK for fuel (the old alchemy 20:1 tech:cobalt replacement ratios)
Plat Tech used to sell for around 92k ISK lately, but it will almost certainly be falling.
Cobalt used to sell for ~500 but it recently spiked to over 3k, Platinum was around 2.5k and now it's around 4.5k, so that's 30k from Cobalt, barely over 2k from Platinum, 35k from fuel, making PT cost 67k to manufacture.
Add in at least 100m ISK/mo per reactor profit to make it start worth bothering with (7,200 units/reactor/month), so another 14k minimum, and you're looking at a 81k price for PT down from the previous 92k trade level.
Not a lot less, but still noteworthy.
That would cap tech price at around 145k-155k or thereabouts. Assuming Cobalt/Platinum or fuel block prices would not spike, and assuming people would be willing to accept a mere 100m per month from a reactor. So, maybe, tech price won't be going down much in the long run, but it won't go up more as it could have if there was no tech alchemy at all.
Depends how long they'd keep the reactions at that level.
And of course, they could bring the replacement ratios further down from 10 Cobalt and 20 fuel blocks more in line with other current alchemy numbers (2.5 Cobalt and 5 fuel blocs and just 3.5k minimum added expected minimum profit, so the new 5:1 alchemy), which would make it much cheaper (assuming cobalt and platinum would NOT spike even further in price, to a mere 22k per unit of PT). That would cap tech to a negligible price compared to the current level, probably below 40k per unit.
Of course, in that case, I expect both cobalt and platinum to go up more, and I also expect people to want more monthly profit from reactors than a measly 100m/mo/reactor, so before any further changes, we might as well still see tech over 60k per unit (or even a bit higher) even with the VASTLY buffed alchemy reactions.
Depends how much it takes them to implement OTHER changes on top of just alchemy.
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