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Sonny Akishima
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:01:00 -
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I'm looking for something to start off on manufacturing on my Industry alt, but I'm not sure what I should start with. I was thinking cruisers, then going to maybe a Vexor or Stabber?
Any advice for an Industry noob on where to start off with manufacturing?
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:11:00 -
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Don't start with ships.
Do start with some sort of module or ammo.
Do do the research to see if it's even profitable to manufacture the module or ammo before you invest in a blueprint.
Don't ask other people to tell you what's profitable. You're competition.
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Iva Posavec
Posavec Innovations
Takhar Matari
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Posted - 2010.04.27 04:11:00 -
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 Originally by: Sonny Akishima
I'm looking for something to start off on manufacturing on my Industry alt, but I'm not sure what I should start with. I was thinking cruisers, then going to maybe a Vexor or Stabber?
Any advice for an Industry noob on where to start off with manufacturing?
Check the market, is there a profit to be made on those cruisers? If not then check other cruisers, if there is still no profit to be made then maybe change the location you are doing business in or check other items.
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Umega
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.04.27 05:53:00 -
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Just cause you mine your own ore doesn't mean it is fr.. wait.
The thing about T2 BPOs is.. no?
That damn volcano is at it.. Ugh!
AFK cloakers are AWAY FROM..
Dramiel.
Seriously.. jus' crunch the numbers yourself. You really aren't goin' to get a straight forward unbiased answer.
Suggestion.. ammo type in region where that ammo type is popular, sold in a station that doesn't seem so popular, hugging a low-sec and/or mission hub system, at a mark-up. They'll sell and for profit.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.27 11:47:00 -
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If you always keep in mind that minerals you mine are essentially free minerals, then you will generally be happy with the results of your manufacturing business.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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zzbooks
Fighting Cats
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Posted - 2010.04.27 12:25:00 -
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Missiles are good. Cruiser BPOs are expensive and require a lot of research before you use them
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Emporer Norton
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Posted - 2010.04.27 14:09:00 -
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I'd say look on contracts for researched bpc's to build from whether you do modules or ships look at all materials needed check cost to build multiply by number of runs and see if after all materials and bp cost make profit if yes fine if no then look for something else also check if you would make a profit selling to buy orders that way if you want to can sell instantly or put sell order up and make more
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Faia Arashi
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Posted - 2010.04.27 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
If you always keep in mind that minerals you mine are essentially free minerals, then you will generally be happy with the results of your manufacturing business.
Mined minerals are only free if your time has no value.
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genette devo
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.04.27 19:27:00 -
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I would advice you to start with something like ammo or drones
that people burn through in quantity, ships last a care bear forever
but ammunition and drones go much quicker. last time i checked
on building ships I could sell the minerals for more than the finished ship was worth on the market.
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Enthral
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Posted - 2010.04.27 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Faia Arashi
Originally by: Ghoest
If you always keep in mind that minerals you mine are essentially free minerals, then you will generally be happy with the results of your manufacturing business.
Mined minerals are only free if your time has no value.
I'm sure Ghoest was being sarcastic. Even so, I really don't care if people are too stupid to realize that their minerals have at the very least the value of the highest buy order within range. It doesn't matter, because those people simply can't mine fast enough to be a threat to my bottom line.
Here are some tips for people who find themselves competing with someone who undervalues their minerals:
1. Buy their product and re-post it at a more appropriate price. If they are selling below profit, you can just consider them a member of your production team!
2. Buy their product and refine it back into minerals to build something more profitable.
3. Thank them for showing you that whatever you're building isn't as profitable as you thought, and go build something else. After all, if #1 and #2 aren't viable, then perhaps it is you who is trying to sell at too high a price after all!
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Faia Arashi
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Posted - 2010.04.28 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: Enthral
I'm sure Ghoest was being sarcastic.
I've seen it too many times, and some of them are quite serious, even rabidly so.
And bear in mind that cost does not equal value.
As far as pricing manufactured items, I am sure a lot of people don't realize the true cost of making something. I've worked up cost on raw materials for something and it is easy to make a profit. But add in station costs for research/manufacturing and the margin shrinks.
Personally I am just at the stage for manufacturing my own stuff for practice as I continue to work my skills up. Even at a (monetary) loss (as long as it is a minor loss) I still gain the convenience of not having to go fetch stuff from however far away.
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Etara Silverblade
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.28 02:51:00 -
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You already have a lot of good advice here but I'm going to add my 2 cents. If you're not manufacturing now then chances are you're doing something else. Take a look at the ships/mods/ammo you use daily and figure out what makes sense to produce. The ammo that's best for your region or ships you most often see will sell more then the stuff you don't use or see. Think about not only what makes a profit but what you can sell the most of.
And since I am no longer in that business I'll tell you that ammo and missiles are great for starting. The BPOs are cheap everyone needs ammo so it'll sell.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.04.28 03:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ghoest on 28/04/2010 03:15:08
Originally by: Faia Arashi
Originally by: Ghoest
If you always keep in mind that minerals you mine are essentially free minerals, then you will generally be happy with the results of your manufacturing business.
Mined minerals are only free if your time has no value.
/em rolls eyes
I managed to be both sarcastic and technically correct(believing the voodoo DOES make many people feel successful)and it all went over your head.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Faia Arashi
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Posted - 2010.04.28 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Edited by: Ghoest on 28/04/2010 03:15:08
Originally by: Faia Arashi
Originally by: Ghoest
If you always keep in mind that minerals you mine are essentially free minerals, then you will generally be happy with the results of your manufacturing business.
Mined minerals are only free if your time has no value.
/em rolls eyes
I managed to be both sarcastic and technically correct(believing the voodoo DOES make many people feel successful)and it all went over your head.
/em slaps forehead
I see it now. "If you always keep in mind..." It doesn't need to be true, it just needs to be believed.
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