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John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.04.28 09:00:00 - [1] The Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive: Malkalen Memorial Ishukone-Raata Forward Operations Command Ishukone Watch Logistic Support Oipo - II - Moon - 19 Greetings capsuleers of New Eden, the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive will be holding a memorial service in rememberance of the Malkalen Disaster that sent shockwaves throughout the known universe and changed our worlds for generations to come. We send this invitation to all capsuleer's to pay their respects to the thousands of men and women who lost their lives that darkest of days. The memorial service will be held at 20:00 hours on the 5th of May at the Ishukone Corporate Headquarters in Malkalen. We ask that pilots wishing to gain more information on the memorial please contact Ishukone-Raata personel at our Headquarters or on the Communication Hub "IshuNET". "Long live the spirit of pilots like Otro Gariushi, and long live Ishukone!" Regards, John Revenent Taisho - Executor Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive
BloodBird Nova Foundry	Posted - 2010.04.28 23:43:00 - [2] Could not even make a simple announcement about the date of the event, without adding "Long live Ishukone", could you? I'll be there. Not because you hold the memorial service, or for you or your corp or anything. I'll be there because honor dictates that I be there. And because I want to be there. ------------------------------------- Alexander Kamy· Allisieer - CO-founder, NOVAF
Stitcher Caldari ForgeTech Industries	Posted - 2010.04.29 00:07:00 - [3] Originally by: BloodBird Could not even make a simple announcement about the date of the event, without adding "Long live Ishukone", could you? You say that like it's a bad thing. I doubt I need to confirm my attendance. I would have thought it was implicit. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Nachshon Caldari Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.04.29 04:01:00 - [4] Were I not in the TLF, and therefore subject to attack in Caldari space, I would attend. RIP, Otro Gariushi. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom My v
BloodBird Nova Foundry	Posted - 2010.04.29 11:36:00 - [5] Edited by: BloodBird on 29/04/2010 11:37:53 Originally by: Stitcher Originally by: BloodBird Could not even make a simple announcement about the date of the event, without adding "Long live Ishukone", could you? You say that like it's a bad thing. I doubt I need to confirm my attendance. I would have thought it was implicit. One of the thing that amazes me with most Caldari is that, you seem unable to grasp the consept of loyalty without ever-constant demonstrations of it, in forms like this. Basicly, it feels like constant confirmation that you are indeed still their loyalists, as if that needed constant reminders. It get's tiresome after a while, you know? At any give rate, I'm not interested in arguing this, especially not here, so I'll leave it at that. Originally by: Nachshon Were I not in the TLF, and therefore subject to attack in Caldari space, I would attend. RIP, Otro Gariushi. Last time I was there, I was a soldier in the FDU. Show up in a capsule, stay close to the station, and keep an eye on the overview. You will be fine. EDIT typo. ------------------------------------- Alexander Kamy· Allisieer - CO-founder, NOVAF
Syyl'ara Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.04.29 14:13:00 - [6] Edited by: Syyl''ara on 29/04/2010 14:12:54 Originally by: BloodBird One of the thing that amazes me with most Caldari is that, you seem unable to grasp the consept of loyalty without ever-constant demonstrations of it, in forms like this. Basicly, it feels like constant confirmation that you are indeed still their loyalists, as if that needed constant reminders. It get's tiresome after a while, you know? I'll take sometimes-excessive demonstrations of loyalty over hollow lip-service. The culture gap here is half the reason why we're so constantly at each other's throats. Try not being so judgmental of others. It is one thing to accurately gauge the differences, its another entirely to go about determining which values are superior or inferior or count as positive or negative attributes. Quote: At any give rate, I'm not interested in arguing this, especially not here, so I'll leave it at that. You don't want to argue it, you just want to inject it into the discussion and then shrink away when called out on it. Funny how often the words "I don't want to talk about this" come out of the mouths of people who originally brought up the subject they'd supposedly rather avoid.
BloodBird Nova Foundry	Posted - 2010.04.29 18:29:00 - [7] Originally by: Syyl'ara I'll take sometimes-excessive demonstrations of loyalty over hollow lip-service. The culture gap here is half the reason why we're so constantly at each other's throats. Try not being so judgmental of others. It is one thing to accurately gauge the differences, its another entirely to go about determining which values are superior or inferior or count as positive or negative attributes. I prefer actual demonstrations of loyalty over lip-service myself, but different from Mr. Revenent I don't feel like adding any kind of confirmation of loyalty to something as simple as this announcement. At any given rate, it seems commenting it was a mistake, when I look at your reply here. I am well aware of the culture gap, and in no way were I commenting on any kind of superior/inferior tendencies or anything. I were wondering aloud why he felt it was even needed to state his loyalty in public. His actions should be proof enough. In this case, his actions are organizing the yearly memorial of Malkalen, to honor the memory of the ones lost, and the importance the event has in recent history. Originally by: Syyl'ara You don't want to argue it, you just want to inject it into the discussion and then shrink away when called out on it. Funny how often the words "I don't want to talk about this" come out of the mouths of people who originally brought up the subject they'd supposedly rather avoid. There is no discussion. There is an announcement, and a reply to it that goes ôI'll attend for my own reasons, though I don't get why you feel compelled to constantly underline your loyalty.ö Easy as that. And no, I were not interested in starting an argument here simply because, regardless of what I may think of the way it was announced, this topic is a notification of an event I feel is important. I did not want to derail said important notification. ------------------------------------- Alexander Kamy· Allisieer - CO-founder, NOVAF
Jay Marshall Caldari Walks Forever Trade Inc	Posted - 2010.04.29 23:38:00 - [8] Each year since the incident I return on the anniversary and say a prayer briefly. I will do this again this year and each year for each life lost in this tragic incident. ------------------------ CEO Walks Forever Trade Inc
Che Biko Humanitarian Communists	Posted - 2010.04.30 02:03:00 - [9] Hmm, I'll think I'll attend again, but why May 5th, and not the 15th
Syyl'ara Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.04.30 13:43:00 - [10] Originally by: BloodBird I prefer actual demonstrations of loyalty over lip-service myself, but different from Mr. Revenent I don't feel like adding any kind of confirmation of loyalty to something as simple as this announcement. At any given rate, it seems commenting it was a mistake, when I look at your reply here. I am well aware of the culture gap, and in no way were I commenting on any kind of superior/inferior tendencies or anything. I were wondering aloud why he felt it was even needed to state his loyalty in public. His actions should be proof enough. In this case, his actions are organizing the yearly memorial of Malkalen, to honor the memory of the ones lost, and the importance the event has in recent history. You attack him for being loyal out loud, but your wondering about how inappropriate it is out loud is okay? Quote: There is no discussion. There is an announcement, and a reply to it that goes ôI'll attend for my own reasons, though I don't get why you feel compelled to constantly underline your loyalty.ö Its generally very easy to not have a discussion, it starts by not inserting an argument from the discussion you want to avoid. You brought the subject up, odd move for someone so interested in avoiding it! Quote: Easy as that. And no, I were not interested in starting an argument here simply because, regardless of what I may think of the way it was announced, this topic is a notification of an event I feel is important. I did not want to derail said important notification. You claim you don't want to derail this, but then why are you placing debris on the tracks? The biggest example of lip-service I've seen in this thread so far is you giving lip service to how much respect for this event you have while taking the opportunity to disparage one of the organizer's attributes of character.
John Revenent Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.05.01 03:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Che Biko Hmm, I'll think I'll attend again, but why May 5th, and not the 15th This is a public memorial service that will be held on the 5th and organized by the Ishukone-Raata staff, over the next 10 days our staff will be performing several private ceremonies to honor everyone who lost their life in the disaster, and on the 15th majority of our Enforcers will be station side attending to other matters that work in line with the memorial service.
shadowcolt Caldari N'ra Agistment Stables Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.05.03 06:50:00 - [12] I shall be there, hopefully this time my drone combat systems don't go haywire, like they did on that terrible day... I also hope not so many pirates need to be deteered from the station this day....
Nikita Alterana Gallente The Inevitable Corp	Posted - 2010.05.03 13:01:00 - [13] is that station still burning or have they started fixing it?
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.03 13:16:00 - [14] Originally by: Nikita Alterana is that station still burning or have they started fixing it? Still burning. Supercarriers crashing into stations aren't the easiest of things to fix. ---
Vikarion Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.04 05:33:00 - [15] Official LDIS Statement We at Lai Dai Infinity Systems would like to express our our deeply held feelings of sorrow on the anniversary of this tragic attack. Thousands of Caldari were killed, and time has been too short to wipe the memories from our mind. We grieve with the families of those who perished, not least of them being Otro Garuishi. Those who died, died in the service of the State, for the State consists of such people: proud Caldari, diligent and unwavering in the face of adversity. This spirit shone no more clearly than in the person of Ishukone's CEO, who stood his ground to the last against a suicidal madman determined to annihilate all we hold dear. We salute Garuishi and his bravery, we salute Ishukone and its sacrifice, and we salute the men, women, and children who lived and died as Caldari: diligent, brave, proud, and loyal. We will not forget. Nei ya lai-dai
Caronos	Posted - 2010.05.05 09:43:00 - [16] I shall be present to pay my respects to those who lost their lives to this. Can you confirm that proceedings will be at 20:00 EvETime for this event?
Akai Tsumi Minmatar Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.05.05 15:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Caronos I shall be present to pay my respects to those who lost their lives to this. Can you confirm that proceedings will be at 20:00 EvETime for this event? as far as i am concerned, nothing has changed
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.05.05 16:07:00 - [18] I regret that I will be unable to attend today due to some other pulling responsibilities. My thoughts will be with you though, and those who lost their lives in Malkalen two years ago. Evil lasts an hour, and truth lasts till the Hour. ------------------------------------------------
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.05 18:51:00 - [19] I intend to be at today's memorial proceedings in person where I will speak some words of my own on the events at Malkalen and the wider context of Caldari State political affiliations since the Wandering Saint was driven into the Ishukone Corporate Headquarters in Malkalen. Otro Gariushi was man of many shades, some brighter than others, but the one best remembered by the Star Fraction was the gift of Insorum to Maleatu Shakor at the begining of the Elders War of liberation to recover their long enslaved kinsmen in Amarr-dominated space. This is man who was a friend to the Matari and at the last act of his life a friend to freedom and martyr to the cause of liberation. I am coming to Malkalen this evening to personally ask questions of John Revenent and the Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive. I wish to clarify this organization's stance through public discussion and clear announcement of their relations with the Imperial Imperialist reclaimer alliance CVA. For the deeds of Ishukone-Raata are fresh in the minds of Free Captains of Star Fraction and we remember well the role these pilots played in the Climatic Battle of Space and Freedom IV where they supported Sev3rance alliance and Old Providence against us in Kamela system in the wake of the Misan Pal'taek corp theft. We lost several crews in battle against this organization that was fighting then for the greater glory and submission to the Amarrians in Providence and named themselves friend to neither Matari or Freespace interests. If it is true that Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive is honest in its desire to put past mistakes and foul affiliations behind them, then the Star Fraction stands ready to forgive past transgressions and extend the hand of friendship tonight. But if false pride and doublespeak demand that no such statement is uttered at Malkalen this evening. Then blood will flow, because we will not see the truth of Gariushi's sacrifice and gift besmirched by those carrying the stink of imperialist slavery fresh on their name and reputation. True Knowledge
Stitcher Caldari ForgeTech Industries	Posted - 2010.05.05 19:30:00 - [20] Edited by: Stitcher on 05/05/2010 19:33:14 Please, PLEASE do not bring those kinds of politics into a simple memorial. If you wish to question I-RED, do so when we aren't paying respect to the dead. Tonight is a night for remembrance and homage, not confrontation. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.05 19:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Stitcher Edited by: Stitcher on 05/05/2010 19:33:14 Please, PLEASE do not bring those kinds of politics into a simple memorial. If you wish to question I-RED, do so when we aren't paying respect to the dead. Tonight is a night for remembrance and homage, not confrontation. I-RED are the ones disrespecting the memory of Otro Gariushi and the others who fell at Malkalen. For an organisation with their history and affiliations to be so presumptuous as to organise an memorial service for a man who stood for that which they despise... It is an affront and a mark of deep disrespect for a man of vision and benevolence. Heartstone ---
BloodBird Nova Foundry	Posted - 2010.05.05 20:17:00 - [22] I would kindly ask any Federal, or anyone really, attending this memorial to offer their respects to the Federal dead aboard the Wandering Saint and the support craft who perished, along with the Caldari dead. I regret I can not be there in person to do so, but I am suffering massive, repeated capsule-failure as we speak, even as the memorial is ongoing. As I am currently trapped inside my own pod en-route to the memorial and any attempt to restore control is faced with repeated failure, Odds that I will manage to arrive at all are slim at best. If this message reach the summit then at least my neo-com works. Countrymen, kindred, I'm sorry... ------------------------------------- Alexander Kamy· Allisieer - CO-founder, NOVAF
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.05.05 20:18:00 - [23] Maybe my cybernetic subprocessor is failing me, but I see absolutely no connection with the treacherous Gallente responding to a proposal of peace by killing thousands of innocents and some minor capsuleer squabbles in some underdeveloped region. Heck, what has the Amarr to do with anything here? And why do I even pay attention to what anarchists have to say about anything? Sheesh... this reminds me of that Guristas firewater salesman all over again. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Online Lorebook
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.05 20:38:00 - [24] Please accept my apologies for not being able to attend tonight - something has come up. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Natalcya Katla Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2010.05.05 21:07:00 - [25] Oh look, it's Talk About Dead People Day again already. Time flies.
Lucius Vindictus Amarr	Posted - 2010.05.05 21:18:00 - [26] Edited by: Lucius Vindictus on 05/05/2010 21:19:56 Originally by: Heartstone I-RED are the ones disrespecting the memory of Otro Gariushi and the others who fell at Malkalen. For an organisation with their history and affiliations to be so presumptuous as to organise an memorial service for a man who stood for that which they despise... It is an affront and a mark of deep disrespect for a man of vision and benevolence. Heartstone On the other hand, the Star Fraction, being stated enemies of the Caldari State with the blood of millions of Caldari on their hands, do have a place at this memorial? So much even that you see fit to preach your unwanted propaganda at a memorial of all places? I for one do not want to see the memory of the victims of Malkalen cheapened in such a manner. Since it seems that you intend to defile the memorial, I will have no part in it. I will spare myself the sight of such a perversion and remember the fallen in private this year. ============================= The background of Lucius Vindictus
Aphoxema G DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.05 22:23:00 - [27] Edited by: Aphoxema G on 05/05/2010 22:24:04 Perhaps this thread should be retitled "Malkalen Disaster Memorial Disaster". Our encounter only aided in the uncertainty to where your hearts lie. Would it have been so hard to deny your loyalty to CVA or do you still abide by them? The memorial has been spoiled by the hands of those whom followed the will of slavers. ------------------------------- The fox chases for her meal, but the rabbit runs for her life.
Stitcher Caldari ForgeTech Industries	Posted - 2010.05.05 23:14:00 - [28] Nothing I say here will be other than a repetition of what I have already said, but let me repeat nonetheless. You are hypocrites. All of you. Every last Star Fraction pilot who showed up tonight is guilty of nothing short of the most appalling two-facedness. With one hand you denounced the organizers of this memorial, claiming that they dishonoured the dead by affiliation. With the other hand, you opened fire on a ship that had undocked with peaceful intentions, killed its crew. You violated a solemn occasion with bloodshed and murder, and you DARE to accuse anybody other than yourselves of spoiling the event? That goes beyond arrogance. You people aren't merely blind, ignorant and pompous. You are all of those vices and more rolled into one, distilled and blended until only pure thoughtless regard only for your own collective ego remains. You didn't attend because you really care about slaves and slavery. If that were your goal, there are battlefields and forums across New Eden that would have been a better site for your attentions, and better targets for your ire than I-RED. You chose the memorial for the simple, cynical reason that you knew it would have the biggest media profile. I have no words strong enough. I can't write down the sheer raging strength of the disgust I feel tonight. You ****ed on six hundred thousand graves tonight, and then accused the mourners of not looking after the headstones properly. You all deserve to burn for this. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Aphoxema G DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.05 23:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Stitcher With one hand you denounced the organizers of this memorial, claiming that they dishonoured the dead by affiliation. With the other hand, you opened fire on a ship that had undocked with peaceful intentions, killed its crew. War had been actively declared and both sides knew this perfectly well. There was no way to know the intent of the captain because the captain had failed to communicate the intent of undocking. It isn't the media or reporters or the mangled tendrils of pundits that carry on Star Fraction or freedom itself. It is the willingness to fight the tyrants and memes that attempt to steal individuals and force them into labor or belief. In this scenario, the media would hopefully be a tool to resign your alliance of the title of slaver apologists. ------------------------------- The fox chases for her meal, but the rabbit runs for her life.
Skogen Gump The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.05 23:28:00 - [30] In your own words 'Stitcher' "Stitcher > and the truth was that slavery has or had nothing to do with the attack here two years ago". The 'truth' is, that Otro died because he tried to emancipate every Vitoc slave from their vile addiction and chemically enforced slavehood. It has everything to do with Slavery and your tacit denial of this proves both your lack of respect and your complete misunderstanding of the legacy of Otro's sacrifice. There is nothing more to say on this, your own words betray you.

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