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0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 00:28:00 - [1] Edited by: 0seeker0 on 04/12/2004 00:31:27 Whoa, i just heard a nasty rumour... is it true that the "visibility" trade skill, only increases the distance an item being sold can be viewed on the market if its placed remotely, otherwise if you place the sell order at the station you are already at, then it gets full visibility anyway, as in pre exodus? Can someone knowledgeable please clear this up, as im now confused where once it seemed clear... and ill also have wasted many skill points... san. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 00:28:00 - [2] Edited by: 0seeker0 on 04/12/2004 00:31:27 Whoa, i just heard a nasty rumour... is it true that the "visibility" trade skill, only increases the distance an item being sold can be viewed on the market if its placed remotely, otherwise if you place the sell order at the station you are already at, then it gets full visibility anyway, as in pre exodus? Can someone knowledgeable please clear this up, as im now confused where once it seemed clear... and ill also have wasted many skill points... san. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
MrYellow	Posted - 2004.12.04 01:59:00 - [3] I read the description about 15 times the other day trying to figure out what the hell it was saying...... Yeah seems all those skills only relate to remote orders. You only need "Trade" skill for station orders. -Ben
MrYellow	Posted - 2004.12.04 01:59:00 - [4] I read the description about 15 times the other day trying to figure out what the hell it was saying...... Yeah seems all those skills only relate to remote orders. You only need "Trade" skill for station orders. -Ben
DeFood	Posted - 2004.12.04 02:10:00 - [5] **! CCP * and dogs! *** ** * or * then * ***!!!! **!
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Vaughn Zoran	Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 - [7] Originally by: DeFood **! CCP * and dogs! *** ** * or * then * ***!!!! **! Now come on.. Don't hold back -- tell us how you REALLY feel!
Vaughn Zoran	Posted - 2004.12.04 02:12:00 - [8] Originally by: DeFood **! CCP * and dogs! *** ** * or * then * ***!!!! **! Now come on.. Don't hold back -- tell us how you REALLY feel!
Shirei	Posted - 2004.12.04 02:27:00 - [9] Originally by: 0seeker0 Whoa, i just heard a nasty rumour... is it true that the "visibility" trade skill, only increases the distance an item being sold can be viewed on the market if its placed remotely, otherwise if you place the sell order at the station you are already at, then it gets full visibility anyway, as in pre exodus? That is true.
Shirei	Posted - 2004.12.04 02:27:00 - [10] Originally by: 0seeker0 Whoa, i just heard a nasty rumour... is it true that the "visibility" trade skill, only increases the distance an item being sold can be viewed on the market if its placed remotely, otherwise if you place the sell order at the station you are already at, then it gets full visibility anyway, as in pre exodus? That is true.
Andrue	Posted - 2004.12.04 10:44:00 - [11] I'm so glad I spent a week getting visibility skill. I'm even more pleased that I only learnt it to lvl 1. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
Andrue	Posted - 2004.12.04 10:44:00 - [12] I'm so glad I spent a week getting visibility skill. I'm even more pleased that I only learnt it to lvl 1. -- (Battle hardened miner) [Brackley, UK] WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality.
MajorGeneral Ponsonby	Posted - 2004.12.04 10:51:00 - [13] Good! The visibility skill sucked in its very nature. Now they only need to increase the order limit and maybe the market can be saved.
MajorGeneral Ponsonby	Posted - 2004.12.04 10:51:00 - [14] Good! The visibility skill sucked in its very nature. Now they only need to increase the order limit and maybe the market can be saved.
Alvar	Posted - 2004.12.04 11:35:00 - [15] Marketing is the skill that increases visibility range for orders placed at a station e.g. I have Marketing 4, orders are visible up to 20 jumps away
Alvar	Posted - 2004.12.04 11:35:00 - [16] Marketing is the skill that increases visibility range for orders placed at a station e.g. I have Marketing 4, orders are visible up to 20 jumps away
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 11:44:00 - [17] AAAAAaah, marketing? see, im a fairly inteligent lad but the descriptions jut about baffled me... thanks guys! San. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 11:44:00 - [18] AAAAAaah, marketing? see, im a fairly inteligent lad but the descriptions jut about baffled me... thanks guys! San. Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
Xachariah	Posted - 2004.12.04 12:46:00 - [19] Edited by: Xachariah on 04/12/2004 12:50:14 Having read the description of marketing, I think it allows you to remote-sell in a bigger region, doesn¦t it?
Xachariah	Posted - 2004.12.04 12:46:00 - [20] Edited by: Xachariah on 04/12/2004 12:50:14 Having read the description of marketing, I think it allows you to remote-sell in a bigger region, doesn¦t it?
MajorGeneral Ponsonby	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Alvar Marketing is the skill that increases visibility range for orders placed at a station e.g. I have Marketing 4, orders are visible up to 20 jumps away The description says otherwise: Marketing Skill at selling items remotely. Each level increases the range from the seller to the item being sold. Level 1 allows for the sale of items within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for sale of items located anywhere within current region.
MajorGeneral Ponsonby	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:17:00 - [22] Originally by: Alvar Marketing is the skill that increases visibility range for orders placed at a station e.g. I have Marketing 4, orders are visible up to 20 jumps away The description says otherwise: Marketing Skill at selling items remotely. Each level increases the range from the seller to the item being sold. Level 1 allows for the sale of items within the same solar system, Level 2 extends that range to systems within 5 jumps, and each subsequent level then doubles it. Level 5 allows for sale of items located anywhere within current region.
Kalfu	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:19:00 - [23] Originally by: Xachariah Edited by: Xachariah on 04/12/2004 12:50:14 Having read the description of marketing, I think it allows you to remote-sell in a bigger region, doesn¦t it? The word "region" is the key here. Despite all this fancy new market ****, you still cant do anything unless you are in the same region as the target. If procurment/visibility worked accross region boundreis I'd be happy to have spent 12M isk and many days getting them.
Kalfu	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Xachariah Edited by: Xachariah on 04/12/2004 12:50:14 Having read the description of marketing, I think it allows you to remote-sell in a bigger region, doesn¦t it? The word "region" is the key here. Despite all this fancy new market ****, you still cant do anything unless you are in the same region as the target. If procurment/visibility worked accross region boundreis I'd be happy to have spent 12M isk and many days getting them.
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:20:00 - [25] Well, im just plain old confused then, ho hum. san. (*shrugs) Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
0seeker0	Posted - 2004.12.04 13:20:00 - [26] Well, im just plain old confused then, ho hum. san. (*shrugs) Character "Widescreen" is a scammer; beware. Check my bio for a list of known scammers.
Delath	Posted - 2004.12.04 14:42:00 - [27] I don't get why so many people are confused by this - if you read the descriptions it clearly says that it's only for remote orders (as can be seen by the quote someone made up above). Which makes a lot of sense to me - the whole remote order-skillset is an entirely new ability meant for dedicated traders while the casual player or producer 'only' need to worry about taxes and orderlimits. Then again I think they need to up the orderlimit to make remoteorders truly useful. Maybe they'll gimp the ordinary orders with these restrictions later too but until then it makes sense to believe that the skilldescription accurately describes what it does, right? ------------------------- "Real Men Hull Tank" CCP Hammer
Delath	Posted - 2004.12.04 14:42:00 - [28] I don't get why so many people are confused by this - if you read the descriptions it clearly says that it's only for remote orders (as can be seen by the quote someone made up above). Which makes a lot of sense to me - the whole remote order-skillset is an entirely new ability meant for dedicated traders while the casual player or producer 'only' need to worry about taxes and orderlimits. Then again I think they need to up the orderlimit to make remoteorders truly useful. Maybe they'll gimp the ordinary orders with these restrictions later too but until then it makes sense to believe that the skilldescription accurately describes what it does, right? ------------------------- "Real Men Hull Tank" CCP Hammer

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