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Vuk Lau
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:30:00 -
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Vuk Lau was elected to the 2nd and 3rd CSM (serving as Chairman initially). After reaching the two-term limit ElvenLord then took up a similar agenda in Vuk's place for the 4th CSM, also serving as Chairman.
For this next 5th CSM session the two term limit has been abolished because it's clear that there aren't enough serious candidates actually prepared to work hard through an entire CSM session (or in some cases just bother showing up to the weekly meetings) and that blocking people like Vuk from standing again, and limiting Elven to only one more term wasn't in the players' interests. Since we both enjoyed our time on the council and found it productive, being genuinely surprised how receptive CCP are to the CSM's ideas, we will both be standing this time.
The 5th CSM will sit for a full 10 months and for the first time will have a 'stakeholder' status when it comes to EVE development, allowing the council to prioritize specific features/fixes from the backlog each expansion. This makes this session by far the most important yet. It's therefore essential that the players get represented by delegates who are serious about the task, and will have the stamina to work hard at it through the whole session.
In the past we have both gotten more than twice the votes needed to get elected so it should be possible to elect us together but we need YOU THE VOTER to help make this happen. We will be pursuing very similar policies but will together be able to raise twice as many issues and work twice as hard at harassing CCP to fix stuff. So we are kindly asking that if you had planned to vote for either Vuk or Elven you help us both get elected by tactically voting as follows:
- If the main character on the account you're voting with has a name begining with A to K you Vote Vuk Lau - If the main character on the account you're voting with has a name begining with L to Z you Vote ElvenLord
Thank you for you votes, and we hope you're proud of the tough but constructive line we've taken with CCP so far on your behalf,
- Vuk Lau & ElvenLord
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ElvenLord
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:31:00 -
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Our simple plan ...
We understand EVE primarily as a PvP game, where PvE's role is to provide a modi****of stability and certainty, to contrast with the apparent chaos of player-driven competition that could otherwise seem overwhelming to new players. Our definition of PvP doesn't limit itself to stuff that goes ka-boomey in the dark, however, and we fully appreciate and partake in the industrial, economical, political and other less-obvious forms of competition that make EVE such a rich universe.
In our view, 0.0 and the player-conquerable side of New Eden are the 'end game' of EVE, the place where players get the most opportunities to make a difference in the grand scheme of things and write history, yet we certainly don't discount the critical importance of the Empire experience. Both as training grounds for future nullsec dwellers, and as the heart of a different, and equally important PvP ecosystem, Empire is where new players and future alliances can sharpen their teeth, where business tycoons and war profiteers can quietly scheme, play markets and influence distant conflicts, and where those who found themselves on the losing end of a territorial contest can recover, heal, and prepare for revenge.
One of the oft-overlooked cornerstones of EVE (especially by PvPers) is industry, but not by us. We know ships must finish building before they can go boom in space, miners would have nobody to sell to, and traders would have no wares to peddle without industrialists. Industry and logistics are the glue that holds together roid-lickers, mission runners, killboard *****s and fleet admirals, thus players who tackle those thankless, behind-the-scene roles in EVE should be heard and represented, for nothing much would ever happen without their efforts.
During the course of past CSM sessions we've found ourselves working on every kind of issue and aspect of the game imaginable and this will be the case again. However the particular issues we will continue to fight especially hard on are:
- Fixing of broken, unfinished, or legacy features in preference to continually adding new features. This includes for example: Server performance in fleet fights, the roles system, factional warfare, some ship balancing, and so on.
- The poor state of EVE's Customer Support. This is obviously a tough issue for CCP to tackle (or to even acknowledge sometimes) since they cannot just assign some coder time to fixing it. Instead it cuts to the heart of the management of their company and the culture that's grown up within the GM department over years. However with the CSM's growing influence we're confident some more meaningful progress can be made eventually. In the meantime we don't intend to let the issue drop.
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ElvenLord
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: ElvenLord on 04/05/2010 18:37:27 Why vote for us, besides the unrealistic hope of ever owning a veldspar-grazing equid ?
Because we care about EVE as much as you do, if not more; because we have a vast personal experience of most aspects of the game, on both sides of the lowsec border (and on the border, too); because our perspective on what's good for EVE extends beyond what helps us and our best buddies wtfpwn by next expansion; and more importantly, because we want to keep playing EVE and enjoy it in the future, and a prime condition for that to happen is for the game and the map to get as deep, rich, wide and diverse as possible. Your game matters to us, because it's what makes EVE worth playing.
ò if you joined yesterday and have nfc where you want to go from here, we want you to get the opportunity to explore as much as possible, as soon as possible, so you can figure it out;
ò If you're a n00b, we look forward to meet you as a future partner or competitor, and it's in our best interest you get every chance to grow into a formidable opponent, a friendly neighbor, or a mysterious stranger;
ò if you're a mission-runner, we'll help make your life more interesting, until the wormhole drones get tough enough to make you realize you could be ready for another kind of Epic Arcs;
ò if you're a combat pilot, regardless of friend or foe, we want you to log in and have fun going boom in the dark: no fighters, no wars ù no wars, no joy;
ò if you're a logistician, CEO or Director, we want you to finally have the tools that will allow you to share your workload with corp and alliance mates, to stop burning out every 6 months àand to get to fly a ship with high-slots, once in a while;
ò if you're an FC, we want you to not be alone anymore, herding cats or drumming in the void at 6AM for the third night in a row ù we'll help you have a talk with the n00b and combat pilot above;
ò if you're a small alliance with dreams of frontier life, we want you to have a fighting chance against a mindless blob, and to make a home for yourself in 0.0 more by talent and dedication than numbers;
ò if you're sitting in a boring alliance in 0.0, we want for you the possibility to go have fun in empire until you find a better one, instead of ragequitting;
ò if you're dabbling in factional warfare, we want it to teach you skills that will make you a force to be reckoned with once you cross over to nullsec;
ò if you're an industrialist, we want for you the power to differentiate yourself from your neighbor, be it by branding your products, researching better BPCs, or running a co-op without getting arse****d;
ò if you're a miner, we are going to look hard for people who have ideas about making your game more fun;
ò if you're a trader, we hate you, yet we need you, but that's how you like it, right?
ò if you're a two-bits scammer, we have a bridge to sell you in Jitaà
VOTE FOR US !
for more info you can visit our website
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Larkonis Trassler
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:40:00 -
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Vuk Lau is perhaps the finest specimen of the male race I have ever met. Physically he is nothing short of an Adonis amongst weaklings. He has a razor sharp wit and intellect. He is, until now and perhaps for all time, the only man who has been able to tempt me into partaking in a homosexual experience.
In all seriousness though Vuk Lau is a good chap, very competant and dedicated to his role in game and on previous CSMs. He put his own life at risk by confronting the GM department for YOU the player.
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Balor Haliquin
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:46:00 -
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Vuk Lau is a man with some great ideas and has been willing to listen to anyone. I will be voting for him and i hope that others will do the same.
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Corabor
Gallente Metalworks Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:48:00 -
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Vote for Vuk Lau
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Dala Are
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 18:59:00 -
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Vote Elven \o/
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Vuk Lau
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Vuk Lau on 04/05/2010 19:15:52 Btw you can check our website - http://www.takingthetmoutofsoon.org/
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:16:00 -
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High sec, null sec, high sec, null sec, and some patronizing of the faction warfare crowd.
Where's the love for low sec? 
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ED209
Science Experts
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:21:00 -
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best candidates out there it seems. you got my votes.
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Tomcat
Gallente Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 19:59:00 -
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Wildly Inappropriate stands in support of Vuk Lau and Elven. May their progressive ideas and "get shiat done" attitude lead us all to a better gameplay experience.
A vote for Vuk Lau is a vote for EvE Online. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |

COMIDOR THORN
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:04:00 -
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elven ty for listening
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:10:00 -
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Vuk will yell at the Devs and stand on their desks (after a few drinks) for YOU! He will even offer them sexual favors to make sure YOUR agenda becomes theirs! In my time at CCP it was hard to resist his manly charms but NOTHING HAPPENED. Honest. 
In all seriousness, Vuk was one of the most engaging (and scary) members of the CSM's I had a chance to work with. He was never focused on any one area of game play and was non-biased in his opinions. At times I think he was more interested in nerfing his own alliance than helping it.
If big Serbian men pounding on tables and yelling at the Devs is your idea of a CSM candidate, then Vuk Lau is your man.  ---- CEO - BDCI "AAA is a collection of fail leftovers from cascaded alliances such as RISE, IAC, MC and ASCN." - Anton Marx |

Volitaire
BESTIAL CARNAGE Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Volitaire on 04/05/2010 20:18:30 this question is entirely void now that I've actually read elvenlord's bit, guess he gets ze vote.
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:29:00 -
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I'd say goodluck but it would be ridiculous if you both weren't already guaranteed a seat! This is why extending the term limits was a good idea.
-T
POLITICS:SIMULATORÖ
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Gorgon Yakuza
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:53:00 -
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Vuk +1
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Facepalm
Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 20:57:00 -
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A vote for Vuk and Elven is a vote for EVE Online!
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PheeniX Fighter
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Posted - 2010.05.04 22:01:00 -
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I Vote for ElvenLord
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Riesia
THE UNKNOWN KNOWN Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.04 22:09:00 -
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You have my sword.. and a vote 
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wartoshhammer
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Posted - 2010.05.04 22:14:00 -
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YOU HAVE MY VOTE
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Peoke
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.05.04 22:19:00 -
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From my dealings with both i've found through the years them to be honest and stick to there word. Both don't care what your affiliation and will listen to what you have to say. Vote for them and your ideas will be brought up
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Aizz Cinemanus
Universal Fleet Operations Veneratio Venator Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.04 22:37:00 -
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Vuk Lau +1 
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ElvenLord
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Volitaire Edited by: Volitaire on 04/05/2010 20:18:30 this question is entirely void now that I've actually read elvenlord's bit, guess he gets ze vote.
If you or anyone else for that matter want to know even more there is my "old" site where you can read more about some of our positions and thinking (program part for the most).
Some of thing you can read there have already been presented to CCP, and some are already in development assessment process (like this tiny thing). Hopefully we will see them implemented soon rather then soonÖ.
Originally by: Peoke From my dealings with both i've found through the years them to be honest and stick to there word. Both don't care what your affiliation and will listen to what you have to say. Vote for them and your ideas will be brought up
Tnx darling We do try to keep to some principles like honor and honesty 
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Virtuozzo
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.04 23:26:00 -
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Vuk :-)
Get yourself a nice piece of art of the Fist hitting the table as a banner :-)
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Majst0r
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 23:37:00 -
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You have my votes! Keep up the good work guys!
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Minthos
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.04 23:39:00 -
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Vote ElvenLord
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Kesper North
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.05 00:17:00 -
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A++ would vote for again -- Killed me? Read about it in my blog! Northern Lights: Solo PVP in EVE Online
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Cpt Lumis
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Posted - 2010.05.05 00:36:00 -
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Vuk Lau Has my full support
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EliteSlave
Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.05.05 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: EliteSlave on 05/05/2010 00:42:09 I am torn..... Vuk should get my votes by default due to my characters name.....but.....Elven is well sexier....   
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ZilchZeta
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Posted - 2010.05.05 00:45:00 -
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I vite for ElvenLord
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