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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
380
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:11:00 -
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Lord Behemoth wrote:...failed the republic...
Lord Behemoth wrote:...working for the republic fleet and defending the freedom or liberating the slaves so that they can have there freedom is what makes a True upstanding Matari citizen.
So anyone not actively engaged in the war front and warring with the Amarr is not a "true Matari?" It intrigues me that "being a true Matari" changes from person to person and you continue to use it to explain how every other Matari should behave so they can be a part of your group, preying upon their desire to be counted among you and have a voice they've been denied for centuries. Some could even argue that your oppressive directives detailing how every Matari should live and breathe is a form of emotional and mental slavery forcing conformity and not true freedom at all.
However, if people like Halete, whom are working to provide for the planetside populations and all-too-often overlooked factory workers, farmers, engineers, scientists and other non-military Matari are considered failures to the Republic or "not true Matari" then I'd argue that the Republic would be better off with a few more "failures." ~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1033
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:13:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote:Rodj Blake wrote: You, along with the majority of "free" Minmatars, are almost certainly not worthy of redemption - mainly because you reject it.
However, that's not to say that your descendents won't be redeemed after a few generations of slavery. We reject it? Or did you mean we eject it? The only thing I have been ejecting lately is Amarr POWs from my cargo hold.
Further proof (if it were needed) of the low ethical standards of the Shakorites.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Nuran Mukadder
Chor Aurea
8
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:17:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:However, if people like Halete, whom are working to provide for the planetside populations and all-too-often overlooked factory workers, farmers, engineers, scientists and other non-military Matari are considered failures to the Republic or "not true Matari" then I'd argue that the Republic would be better off with a few more "failures."
That's what happens when belligerence turns into an objective itself instead of the means, and why doves are as necessary for a healthy government as hawks. |

Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
273
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Posted - 2012.07.12 16:40:00 -
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Lord Behemoth wrote: The only reason you are in Molden Heath is because you failed the republic Halete. I do believe there was rumors of you being Wanted by certain Matari Nationalists. No names mentioned of-course...
And as for being Matari. No. Your Amarrian hiding among the Minmatar, As to them accepting you the answer is mostly yes. there are certain Matari who would refuse you refuge in there stations and colonies but working for the republic fleet and defending the freedom or liberating the slaves so that they can have there freedom is what makes a True upstanding Matari citizen.
That's a very apt observation. You're mostly correct about why I am situated in this region. In-fact, I have been opened fire upon by more than one TLF capsuleer, even, since the move. You're wrong about one thing. I never failed the Republic. I refuse the Republic entirely.
I was brought up as a warrior, "Behemoth". That means that I oppose those that would threaten me and mine. Sometimes those threats are internal. The Shakorite Republic is more interested in self-preservation than preservation of the people living under it. How does that make them True Matari? I fight for my people, only in a different manner. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:53:00 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar.
Why do you think these words would matter for me? There was a reason for leaving Amarr in the first place. Call me a heretic as much as you like. Even though Mataris have their tribal beliefs, they are at least not religious zealots totally deprived of any faith in common sense and human reason as most Amarrians are. I will be ready to take on your Amarrian warships if or when you come here anytime.
This one track minded post of yours clearly shows how Amarrians are more of savages than a people of high culture and advanced society. Who were the "primitives" again?
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:56:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote: Back on topic. Baptize yourself in fire, fly against your brothers and sisters. Spill their blood and lose your own. Die and kill for the horror and misery your disgusting race has brought us. You will never be a member of a tribe, just as we'll never be a member of an Imperial family. Put in the blood and I assure you, even if you aren't Minmatar, we'll welcome you, but for now... The sins of the father pass onto the son.
I've started the process of redeeming myself. I've already had several encounters with smaller Amarrian operations within Minmatar space when flying with the Republic Fleet.
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.07.12 19:59:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote:You better keep an eye on that deluded mutt of an Empress. Otherwise the only Amarr thing above Matar soil will be her violated corpse impaled on a stick. The fact you still exist after such an insolent comment is further proof of the patience and grace the Amarr empire has had, and continues to have, with matari degenerates such as yourself. I can only imagine what would happen to someone foolish enough to make a similar comment about Executor Heth. "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
245
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:29:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:. Even though Mataris have their tribal beliefs, they are at least not religious zealots totally deprived of any faith in common sense and human reason as most Amarrians are.
1. Thinks all Matari are tribalists 2. Does not know that 1/3 of Matari are Amarrian. 3. Thinks 'most' Amarrians are religious zealots, suggesting he's never been among the farmers, factory workers, construction crews, software engineers, and domestic servants that make up the bulk of the citizenry.
Best guess: Youngest son of a Holder, led comfortable, overprivilaged life away from the rabble, realized at some point he'd have a tiny inheritance, watched a bunch of Gallente holomovies about the noble Minmatar freedom fighters, and ran out to join them to stick it to his stern, overbearing father. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:37:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Best guess: Youngest son of a Holder, led comfortable, overprivilaged life away from the rabble, realized at some point he'd have a tiny inheritance, watched a bunch of Gallente holomovies about the noble Minmatar freedom fighters, and ran out to join them to stick it to his stern, overbearing father. Probable Outcome: Sodomized by a bored Brutor, attempts to crawl back to Amarr space, forcibly rejected by the Imperial Navy, forced to live out his immortal life in exile on some foresaken rock in Ammatar space, or perhaps worse still defects to the Gallente Federation where he is openly accepted and coddled despite his treasonous actions.
"That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:43:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote: Probable Outcome: Sodomized by a bored Brutor, attempts to crawl back to Amarr space, forcibly rejected by the Imperial Navy, forced to live out his immortal life in exile on some foresaken rock in Ammatar space, or perhaps worse still defects to the Gallente Federation where he is openly accepted and coddled despite his treasonous actions.
Sounds like you had a traumatic childhood...
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

Amaki Mai
Redanni
5
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Posted - 2012.07.12 20:50:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote: Or did you mean we eject it? The only thing I have been ejecting lately is Amarr POWs from my cargo hold.
So, tell me how committing atrocities helps your cause? You do realise that behaviour such as this is counterproductive, don't you?
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Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
247
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Posted - 2012.07.12 21:00:00 -
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Amaki Mai wrote:Lyskal Oskold wrote: Or did you mean we eject it? The only thing I have been ejecting lately is Amarr POWs from my cargo hold.
So, tell me how committing atrocities helps your cause? You do realise that behaviour such as this is counterproductive, don't you? Committing atrocities is Lyskal's cause. That she commits them against Amarrians is just an accident of birth. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.07.12 21:18:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:William Nimitz wrote: Probable Outcome: Sodomized by a bored Brutor, attempts to crawl back to Amarr space, forcibly rejected by the Imperial Navy, forced to live out his immortal life in exile on some foresaken rock in Ammatar space, or perhaps worse still defects to the Gallente Federation where he is openly accepted and coddled despite his treasonous actions.
Sounds like you had a traumatic childhood... Having likely grown up planetside, with your holder parents and army of "servants", I doubt you could begin to imagine what the life of a tube child growing up in a State orphanage is like. Yet I wouldn't trade a moment of it because I know that the trials and hardships that I have endured have forged me into stronger citizen than a spoilt traitor like you could ever hope to be. I hope you enjoy matari bread-soups, because something tells me that's the finest dining you'll receive for a very very long time.  "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 21:30:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote:Having likely grown up planetside, with your holder parents and army of "servants", I doubt you could begin to imagine what the life of a tube child growing up in a State orphanage is like. Yet I wouldn't trade a moment of it because I know that the trials and hardships that I have endured have forged me into stronger citizen than a spoilt traitor like you could ever hope to be. 
Are you done with your wild speculations concerning my "likely" upbringings and "probable" future experiences yet?
You're right about the part that I can't imagine what the life of a tube child in a state orphanage is like. How would I know, I have never set my foot in Caldari space? Just as I know nothing of your past, you don't have any information whatsoever about my childhood and earlier days in the Empire.
You sound weak though. First you aggressively attack me like I stole your childhood back in the day, then you take on the role as a fragile victim. Did you get molested by the orphanage headmaster, and now have to get all your accumulated anger out on others and cure your self-pity that way?
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

Ssakaa
Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy
211
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:02:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:Something humourless.
You know, one day, Rodj Blake's face will venture a hint or ghost of a smile, thus possibly causing a nebulaic rift, or tunnel, of instantaneous entropy to erupt somewhere probably not in Heimatar.
It'll be a glorious thing; setting in motion many, many, lively debates amongst lab-rats and bunsen-burner operatives as they analyse and poke fun at the quasar-like shell that used to be Rodj Blake's bald head for millenia-to-come. Future capsuleers might (or might not) race to observe this new universal landmark called 'The Blake-Entropy Incident' or something rather grand like that. And you just know, some entrepreneurial Gallentean will turn it into a trilogy and then a holo -and then where we all be? Hmm?
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5 (Five) Million isk for anyone who can offer a better word than 'nebulaic'. If the man's prepared to crack a smile, at least we can do him justice with a real word.
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Lyskal Oskold wrote:We do get a little touchy about our tattoos. Luckily most stations lack the atmospheric quality to let us get into even more brawls with 'Matari enthusiasts'. Beware Minmatar ship crews and such though.
Lucas, with the increases in Thukker technology and our recent successes in neutralizing Concord... Well... You better keep an eye on that deluded mutt of an Empress.
Lyskal Oskold has the chutzpah of the positive kind. More power to your Khumaak-wielding crews, comrade.
CMS-17 IV-á-á
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William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:32:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:You're right about the part that I can't imagine what the life of a tube child in a state orphanage is like. How would I know, I have never set my foot in Caldari space? And that's probably for the better considering what the State does to traitors like you. You're right though, I don't know you, I don't want to know you, turncoats like you belong in the ditches with stitches, although I do find it telling that despite playing the old "you don't know me" card, you didn't actually refute anything I said, did you. "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:43:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote:...although I do find it telling that despite playing the old "you don't know me" card, you didn't actually refute anything I said, did you.
No, and I don't have to: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges".
As long as your claims have no root in actual observations or factual knowledge, I see no need to "defend" myself.
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:55:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:William Nimitz wrote:...although I do find it telling that despite playing the old "you don't know me" card, you didn't actually refute anything I said, did you. No, and I don't have to: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges". As long as your claims have no root in actual observations or factual knowledge, I see no need to "defend" myself. So says a traitor towards his people and his culture who favors savages that will never completely trust him, after all why should they, you already betrayed one empire. "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:13:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote: So says a traitor towards his people and his culture who favors savages that will never completely trust him, after all why should they, you already betrayed one empire.
Well, you can call me traitor all you want, but how do you know I ever swore any allegeance to the Amarr Empire? I was born Amarr, and I lived within the empire for many years, but I never explicitly said that I would serve and defend the Empress with my life or anything of such kind.
This is one of the main reasons why I "betrayed" my empire in the first place. I don't believe in people being born into a certain role, and that one can't forge one's own future. I found the Amarrian culture/society to be too archaic and rigid, and sought places in this world where there were more room for freedom of choice. I know, I know, you probably will say I should have gone to Gallente space instead, but coincidental circumstances led to me eventually finding myself well at home within Minmatar space. "I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread |

Scherezad
Hobgoblin Marketeers
78
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:38:00 -
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Ssakaa wrote:5 (Five) Million isk for anyone who can offer a better word than 'nebulaic'. If the man's prepared to crack a smile, at least we can do him justice with a real word.
Nebulous?
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Henry Kaine
3
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:47:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote:Lyskal Oskold wrote:You better keep an eye on that deluded mutt of an Empress. Otherwise the only Amarr thing above Matar soil will be her violated corpse impaled on a stick. The fact you still exist after such an insolent comment is further proof of the patience and grace the Amarr empire has had, and continues to have, with matari degenerates such as yourself. I can only imagine what would happen to someone foolish enough to make a similar comment about Executor Heth.
Heth can go boil his ass in fuel isotopes. And that's coming from an Amarr living in Caldari space. |

Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Ortus Swift Angels Alliance
10
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Posted - 2012.07.13 00:20:00 -
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I'm so horrible. I mean look at all the cultures I've tried to destroy and the disgusting slave breeding compounds I control. Oh wait, that's not me.
Why are you all even talking here, don't you have siblings to kill to increase your social standings? Aww, you herded us up and treated us like property, I'm just doing the same to the permanently brainwashed weapons you call soldiers I manage to capture. You don't treat them like people, yet I should? Religious hypocrisy, wow, that's rare. Pirates are red,buddies are blue,if you're unlucky enough to be orange,I'll f*cking kill you. |

William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2012.07.13 01:04:00 -
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Lyskal Oskold wrote:Why are you all even talking here, don't you have siblings to kill to increase your social standings? Aww, you herded us up and treated us like property, I'm just doing the same to the permanently brainwashed weapons you call soldiers I manage to capture. You don't treat them like people, yet I should? Religious hypocrisy, wow, that's rare. From the perspective of a Caldari I've often felt it would be much more efficient to simply lobotomize and cyberneticly control human livestock. Yet the Amarr seldom do this, instead choosing to subdue their slaves via chemical addiction and allow them to spiritually progress within the service of their master. Naturally any "free" matari would take offense to either practice, yet how often do matari stop to consider the freedom a simple chemical addiction continues to allow their enslaved brothers and sisters versus complete destruction of the mind in order to produce a completely subjugated bio-drone? The fact your so called "people" even have a sense of identity left when you "liberate" them is something you should thank the Amarr for, if such a practice were in place in the State I doubt they would be so fortunate. "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard
383
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:09:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote: From the perspective of a Caldari I've often felt it would be much more efficient to simply lobotomize and cyberneticly control human livestock.
Excuse me? The perspective of a Caldari? You must be a disciple of Sansha Kuvakei, also of Caldari descent, whom apparently felt much the same way. Your mindset is certainly not one reflective of the Caldari people as a whole, it's repulsive.
~Captain Malcolm Khross, Dyishi Aunni of the Wirykomi Honor Guard Eskeitanen Wiyrkomi Kaashivon Honor Guard Recruitment Video ((OOC WHG PR Video)) |

William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:19:00 -
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Malcolm Khross wrote:Excuse me? The perspective of a Caldari? You must be a disciple of Sansha Kuvakei, also of Caldari descent, whom apparently felt much the same way. Your mindset is certainly not one reflective of the Caldari people as a whole, it's repulsive. Your sympathy for savages is quaint. Was your mother by chance a Gallentean?
"That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:26:00 -
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Also I wonder if you're familiar with the extensive human experimentation, often upon unwilling subjects, that occurred during early State research on Jovian capsule technology. As a citizen of the State it is our duty to protect the State by any and ALL means. Ethics and morality should never interfere with efficiency. "That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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Scherezad
Hobgoblin Marketeers
78
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:45:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote:Also I wonder if you're familiar with the extensive human experimentation, often upon unwilling subjects, that occurred during early State research on Jovian capsule technology. As a citizen of the State it is our duty to protect the State by any and ALL means. Ethics and morality should never interfere with efficiency.
Speaking as an active volunteer in Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetics Division, currently in receipt of aggressive neurological modifications, I find your statement horrifying. Our labs operate with the utmost of care and concern for human life. Research without ethics is an unchecked fire. Please cite your sources. |

Seriphyn Inhonores
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
159
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:54:00 -
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The Practicals would agree.
Especially those sneaky SuVee. |

William Nimitz
State War Academy Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2012.07.13 03:08:00 -
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Scherezad wrote:Speaking as an active volunteer in Lai Dai Research Biomedical and Cybernetics Division, currently in receipt of aggressive neurological modifications, I find your statement horrifying. Our labs operate with the utmost of care and concern for human life. Research without ethics is an unchecked fire. Please cite your sources.
Here is an example of State interrogation techniques that I readily found in the archives, though my previous statement concerning capsule trials on unwilling subjects was concerning another file who's name escapes me at the moment. If I recall the individual was a soldier within the Caldari Navy, and it was his CO that tricked him into participation unbeknownst to what awaited him ((if anyone remembers which chronicle this is please share)). This information, combined with my personal experiences growing up in SO121, seeing my peers who didn't make the cut taken away never to be seen again, lends me to the conclusion that this sense of ethics you and others ascribe to is hardly the norm in our society.
"That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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Amaki Mai
Redanni
5
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Posted - 2012.07.13 03:44:00 -
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William Nimitz wrote: Yet the Amarr seldom do this, instead choosing to subdue their slaves via chemical addiction and allow them to spiritually progress within the service of their master.
Good grief! Vitoc is the exception and not the rule and it is a rather lazy exception to boot!
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