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George Whitebread
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:12:00 -
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So, I've just settled down on Vakir after my defection from the Amarr Empire. What's next for the "good Amarrian". How do I adapt to Minmatar society, and furthermore, will your people accept me despite my ancestry?
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say"
- George Whitebread |
Seriphyn Inhonores
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
159
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:21:00 -
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Gotta ethnically be Minmatar to be Minmatar, I'm afraid, no matter what the liberals say.
Better off in the Federation. |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:29:00 -
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That's too sad. The people at Republic Fleet seems all right to me. I've done many missions for them in Molden Heath the last couple of weeks, and I've not faced any trouble with the locals there so far. But maybe the more peripheral regions have less choices when it comes to picking and choosing their pilots?
I'll give it a shot here in Heimatar, but I might move out to Molden Heath if things gets nasty. Becoming a Gallente citizen isn't an option at the moment, considering who my employer is.
Thanks for the heads up though. 
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say"
- George Whitebread |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:29:00 -
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"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say"
- George Whitebread |
Nuran Mukadder
Chor Aurea
6
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Posted - 2012.07.11 01:36:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:maybe the more peripheral regions have less choices when it comes to picking and choosing their pilots?
I do not think it's a matter of pilot availability, but rather of perspective.
The companies that hire you see a capsuleer at their disposal; they profit enormously by hiring you. So if you pursue credits, they will be available.
But to the local capsuleer community - or, at least, those who really matters - you are a defector with no past, unproven. How can they be sure you're not just a very expensive spy? You now walk between two worlds: no longer trusted in Amarr space, not yet trusted by the Republic.
I'll keep my own opinion to myself, and wish you enlightenment and achievement of your purpose in life. But if i can offer an advice - choose your path wisely, and embrace the responsibilities and consequences that comes with it. |
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan
117
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Posted - 2012.07.11 02:21:00 -
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I feel I am one of the most qualified people to help someone in your situation. Unfortunately, I, undoubtably like most Matari folks, will doubt your sincerity since you are just a college kid. If you really are serious though, feel free to contact me.
My best advice for now, go to Rens and enjoy the free ice cream. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
302
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Posted - 2012.07.11 05:08:00 -
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George Whitebread wrote:So, I've just settled down on Vakir after my defection from the Amarr Empire. What's next for the "good Amarrian". How do I adapt to Minmatar society, and furthermore, will your people accept me despite my ancestry?
You might start with leaving the employment of the Imperial Academy and finding something more suitable to your abilities.
I hear Interbus is hiring.
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Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
260
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Posted - 2012.07.11 06:03:00 -
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Molden Heath? The only thing there to see is me.
If you're asking if I will ever accept you as Matari - of course not, you'll never be Minmatar.
If however you're asking whether I can come to trust an Amarrian who once supported the Empire - perhaps, perhaps not. I suppose time will tell that, won't it?
Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
45
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Posted - 2012.07.11 06:46:00 -
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Kazzzi wrote:
My best advice for now, go to Rens and enjoy the free ice cream.
This, the Raspberry ripple is to die for. Though I had to pay for mine..... |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1024
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:16:00 -
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When I first glanced at the subject, I thought that it said "Defective Amarrian moves to Pator."
After reading the thread, I think that it would have been a better title.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Los Muertas
Mir'Mulnir Tribe
41
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:19:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:When I first glanced at the subject, I thought that it said "Defective Amarrian moves to Pator."
After reading the thread, I think that it would have been a better title.
I threw up all over myself when I realized that I agree with a slaver on a subject...but I do on this one.
Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
20
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Posted - 2012.07.11 11:39:00 -
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Why did you defect? The reason should determine your next step.
"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri) |
Benjamin Eastwood
Oshaima Exports
46
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:43:00 -
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The Gallente are always welcoming of everything. I'm sure you'll have less of a quandry to ponder if you move there. Just my .02 ISK |
Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
241
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:21:00 -
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Protip: Don't run out and get a cool tattoo like your Minmatar buddies'. I once saw a Galletean kid getting his teeth kicked out for just that.
Other than that, ignore the nay-sayers. Nail your colors to the mast and set sail in the direction you've chosen. If you believe in what the Minmatar stand for, it doesn't matter what the Minmatar think of you. If all you're after is the approval of others, you should have stayed in Amarr and been a good boy.
although my eyes were open
they might have just as well've been closed
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Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
261
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:07:00 -
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We prefer the term 'Cultural Enrichment' to 'kicking his teeth in'.
Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Amaki Mai
Redanni
3
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Posted - 2012.07.11 18:39:00 -
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As someone who ALSO found herself doing a few missions for the Republic Fleet during a dark part of her life, my advice is to keep your head down and try to live life as normal. Other advice would be to trust nobody and sleep with a gun under your bed, some of your new neighbours are every bit as zealous in their hatred as a parochial holder on coronation day.
Also, don't feel that you've burned all your bridges forever. The truth is that Capsuleers have a lot of freedom to have 'crises of conscience' and explore other options. I came back to the Empire eventually and whilst I may not be as trusted as, say, Cardinal Graelyn, I haven't had any problems finding work and settling in.
REALLY don't get the tattoo though. |
Theobar Cresthill
The Arzad Hamri Fellowship
20
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Posted - 2012.07.11 19:01:00 -
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Build new credibility slowly and patiently. Perhaps go to work for the SOE. Don't force it. Don't expect too much; too much acceptance too soon. Work according to your convictions, not just to impress others.
"The fire in our hearts burns for salvation, redemption, and grace. May the Word of God grant you the courage to save yourself and your people" (The Last Words of Arzad Hamri) |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2012.07.11 21:52:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Protip: Don't run out and get a cool tattoo like your Minmatar buddies'. I once saw a Galletean kid getting his teeth kicked out for just that.
Amaki Mai wrote:REALLY don't get the tattoo though.
You don't have to worry too much about that part. I just saw this show on TV the other night, I believe it was called "Lustrevik Ink." or something like that... People in the tattoo business seem like shady people if you ask me.
Even though I like the Minmatar people quite well, I'll try to stick to the more conservative walks of life within the Republic for now.
"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say"
- George Whitebread |
William Nimitz
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.07.12 01:38:00 -
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Theobar Cresthill wrote:Why did you defect? I too would be interested in hearing your reasoning for betra.... leaving the most ancient Amarr empire for the boondock ghettos that are the Minmatar republic. Also, if you're truely intent on spending your immortal life in such places, perhaps you might find the Derelik region more receptive.
"That is not to say that we can relax our readiness to defend ourselves. Our armament must be adequate to the needs, but our faith is not primarily in these machines of defense but in ourselves." - Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz
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Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.07.12 02:52:00 -
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You can leave the Amarr, but will the Amarr ever leave you? I've sat many a lone nights on a solitary bench in a station wondering that. |
Lucas Raholan
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:11:00 -
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You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar.
The diffrence between WoW and EVE is that in WoW a fellow player will help you gain vaulable items and then go on their merry way.
The same happens in EVE, only once you have the items the fellow player beats the cr*p out of you and takes them. |
Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Ortus
Swift Angels Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.07.12 11:49:00 -
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We do get a little touchy about our tattoos. Luckily most stations lack the atmospheric quality to let us get into even more brawls with 'Matari enthusiasts'. Beware Minmatar ship crews and such though.
Lucas, with the increases in Thukker technology and our recent successes in neutralizing Concord... Well... You better keep an eye on that deluded mutt of an Empress. Otherwise the only Amarr thing above Matar soil will be her violated corpse impaled on a stick.
Back on topic.
Baptize yourself in fire, fly against your brothers and sisters. Spill their blood and lose your own. Die and kill for the horror and misery your disgusting race has brought us. You will never be a member of a tribe, just as we'll never be a member of an Imperial family. Put in the blood and I assure you, even if you aren't Minmatar, we'll welcome you, but for now... The sins of the father pass onto the son.
Pirates are red,buddies are blue,if you're unlucky enough to be orange,I'll f*cking kill you. |
Ava Starfire
Skadi's Call
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
336
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:01:00 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar.
You need a hug. |
Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
269
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:05:00 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar.
We're not worthy of redemption?
Fantastic.
I suppose you'll be letting our kin leave, then?
Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. // Throwing one's hands up in the air and crying 'cal-matar nonsense!' seems to be the new dismissive these days when someone is being neither relevant nor dignified. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
176
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:35:00 -
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Ava Starfire wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar. You need a hug.
He needs a hug, a cookie and a better stylist.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1033
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:36:00 -
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Halete wrote:Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar. We're not worthy of redemption? Fantastic. I suppose you'll be letting our kin leave, then?
You, along with the majority of "free" Minmatars, are almost certainly not worthy of redemption - mainly because you reject it.
However, that's not to say that your descendents won't be redeemed after a few generations of slavery.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
176
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:41:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:
You, along with the majority of "free" Minmatars, are almost certainly not worthy of redemption - mainly because you reject it.
However, that's not to say that your descendents won't be redeemed after a few generations of slavery.
You seriously need some new material Blake. Your act has gotten quite stale.
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |
Lyskal Oskold
Sefem Ortus
Swift Angels Alliance
5
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Posted - 2012.07.12 14:41:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote: You, along with the majority of "free" Minmatars, are almost certainly not worthy of redemption - mainly because you reject it.
However, that's not to say that your descendents won't be redeemed after a few generations of slavery.
We reject it?
Or did you mean we eject it? The only thing I have been ejecting lately is Amarr POWs from my cargo hold.
Pirates are red,buddies are blue,if you're unlucky enough to be orange,I'll f*cking kill you. |
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:23:00 -
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Lucas Raholan wrote:You shall forever been seen as a traitor and disloyal to your cause. clearly you prefer primitives to those truly worthy of greatness.
But know that the Amarr Empire and its people shall hence forth reject you, Our Great empress will cut you down as a heretic when Amarrain warships once again fly above the skies of Matar.
Rattling the same old dull saber again, aren't we Lucas? |
Lord Behemoth
Knights Templar.
4
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Posted - 2012.07.12 15:39:00 -
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Halete wrote:Molden Heath? The only thing there to see is me.
If you're asking if I will ever accept you as Matari - of course not, you'll never be Minmatar.
If however you're asking whether I can come to trust an Amarrian who once supported the Empire - perhaps, perhaps not. I suppose time will tell that, won't it?
The only reason you are in Molden Heath is because you failed the republic Halete. I do believe there was rumors of you being Wanted by certain Matari Nationalists. No names mentioned of-course...
And as for being Matari. No. Your Amarrian hiding among the Minmatar, As to them accepting you the answer is mostly yes. there are certain Matari who would refuse you refuge in there stations and colonies but working for the republic fleet and defending the freedom or liberating the slaves so that they can have there freedom is what makes a True upstanding Matari citizen. |
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