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Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
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Posted - 2010.05.07 11:44:00 -
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What a coincidence, I just came across this
Originally by: CCP_Hammerhead Incarna in it's full form won't be ready by Winter. I have to be honest and manage expectations there. Although I can say we're working really hard on bring you something of value that is Incarna related in that release.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.05.07 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Neutrino Sunset What a coincidence, I just came across this
Originally by: CCP_Hammerhead Incarna in it's full form won't be ready by Winter. I have to be honest and manage expectations there. Although I can say we're working really hard on bring you something of value that is Incarna related in that release.
Well Neutrino, that is hardly surprising. Name me ONE thing in Eve which is implemented in its full form. You will find that ALL of the stuff can be expanded and are just a basic framework which should be filled in with more stuff soon (tm) or later (tm).
As long as it is working reasonably and as long as it is fun, I wouldn't worry about not being full form too much. 
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moola
Band Of Frogs
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Posted - 2010.05.07 12:25:00 -
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They will add it at some point, otherwise there isnt any real conflict on planets ergo no need for Dust 54321.
The thing that irks me is more staff are getting pulled into supporting an addition to EVE to support an other game.
One universe, one game, two gaming platforms, wtf ?
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Mr Muchaka
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Posted - 2010.05.07 15:22:00 -
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Haha. So Incarna NOT coming this winter never saw that coming. Anyhow in my opinion PI in its current form on SISI sucks and should be scrapped alltogether and they should start from scratch.
That is all.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.05.07 16:21:00 -
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I just don't get where all this manpower goes to.. CCP never employed more people than now?
There should be people solely revisiting older content/balancing stuff.. there are 10+ page threads about rockets, kestrels and what not..
1 year ago there was BIG SUPER HYPE about new mission/dungeon tools, which would not just allow the release of the missing lvl2/3 epic arcs.. no, there was talk about a FLOOD of new missions every two months or so.. What happend to that?
Where does all this manpower go?
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Tensarra
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Posted - 2010.05.07 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Muchaka Haha. So Incarna NOT coming this winter never saw that coming. Anyhow in my opinion PI in its current form on SISI sucks and should be scrapped alltogether and they should start from scratch.
That is all.
Scrap PI? We've been waiting on this a long time, man. Just because you're not perfectly ecstatic about it, doesn't mean it sucks. Programming is difficult, not to mention it's an MMO... Stop being a hater and give some actual good advice, if you want anything to come of you posting.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.05.07 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer I just don't get where all this manpower goes to.. CCP never employed more people than now?
CCP may have more people, but that does not mean the EVE-Online division of CCP has more people. Also as EVE-Online grows, they need to hire more GMs and support personnel to meet the demands of a larger playerbase.
Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.07 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Hammer Population stuff didn't make it in for this release but it's not out of the question in future releases. There is a team working on PI for the Winter release but their top priority will be linking networks and player to player trade. That's followed by the other cool stuff like pollution and population. It remains to be seen how far we will get with it. I'm pretty excited about spending another release cycle on improving a new feature.
now if you can just get the rest of the Developers to stop useing thoes words they always use to let us know that you guys have stoped developing this! Honestly if anyone else on the team refers to PI as being the Fondation for future development again Im going to put them on a Strict diet of Lutefisk, grits, and American Beer(the americans on your staff will have to drink watered down tea)
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.05.08 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Tres Farmer I just don't get where all this manpower goes to.. CCP never employed more people than now?
CCP may have more people, but that does not mean the EVE-Online division of CCP has more people. Also as EVE-Online grows, they need to hire more GMs and support personnel to meet the demands of a larger playerbase.
So you're saying that ccp now has same/less number of people working on eve-online?
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.08 02:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kyra Felann on 08/05/2010 02:12:18
Originally by: Neutrino Sunset That's not particularly encouraging. Before population control was central to the whole point of PI, now it's been relegated to just 'not out of the question', and even then definately no sooner than the Winter release which means what, summer 2011 at the soonest?
I agree that there is a whole world of difference between what they said at FanFest about six months ago and what is coming out with Tyrannis. I'm really disappointed also.
I mean of all the bullet-points about PI from FanFest, I think we're getting one or two (low barrier to entry) out of ten or so.
Originally by: Mr Muchaka Anyhow in my opinion PI in its current form on SISI sucks and should be scrapped alltogether and they should start from scratch.
I don't agree with this. What is there isn't the problem, it's what is missing that's the problem. It just needs another six months or so of development, not starting over from scratch.
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.05.08 04:46:00 -
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Edited by: Zartrader on 08/05/2010 04:47:02
Really, some of you guys have been exposed to too much marketing and starting to believe it. You know they are economical with the truth and they know that a suggestion is as good as fact. A comment such as 'we are looking at....or 'we hope to include...' or 'we are excited about....' is NOT the same as 'it will happen...' and they know that. Also there is nothing written in stone that an expansion feature is not being added to over several years.
I'm sure CCP put in what they could and that's all I really expect. Maybe be as cynical as me and you'll be happier. As they say, a pessimist is never disappointed.
EDIT: The above is tongue in cheek, If I was really looking forward to it I'd not be too impressed either.
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Geralden
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Posted - 2010.05.08 06:18:00 -
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Why dedicate a whole dev. team for PI?
Its proberly the most dull concept in EVE sofar - and I really cant see anything good come out of PI in its curent form.
To the OP, no, no population managment will come - PI is basicly PoS made insanely overcomplicated and pointless.
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.05.08 06:43:00 -
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Edited by: Zartrader on 08/05/2010 06:44:38
Originally by: Geralden Why dedicate a whole dev. team for PI?
Its proberly the most dull concept in EVE sofar - and I really cant see anything good come out of PI in its curent form.
To the OP, no, no population managment will come - PI is basicly PoS made insanely overcomplicated and pointless.
I think people are waiting for one feature and that's planetary bombardment and mass genocide on your enemy. I'd also love to see a Death Star that can blow a whole planet to bits.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.08 07:09:00 -
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Edited by: Steve Thomas on 08/05/2010 07:09:24
Originally by: Geralden Why dedicate a whole dev. team for PI?
Its proberly the most dull concept in EVE sofar - and I really cant see anything good come out of PI in its curent form.
To the OP, no, no population managment will come - PI is basicly PoS made insanely overcomplicated and pointless.
Pi Currently is the primary link between EvE online and the upcomeing Dust.
look at the bright side, they are not planing any links yet between EvE online and there other mmo property.
pun intended!
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.08 11:28:00 -
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well 2 additons to tyrannis PI ( they seem to be rushing it but have given us the planet mining ) thats about all it is planet mining nad processing. Still no word beyond nanopaste what will be the end products.
And the content team instead of the epic arcs or 00 factional warfare simply got to ....... rebalance the complexes across eve to spread them out many lols
Ok eve gate ...... social networking platform thingy for dust incarna and the rest of the hype. Incarna is delayed, PI mark 2 for december this year and dust is a pipe dream.
I get the feeling ccp cant either fill a lot of its positions or is suffering hopefully not from a bit of a profit and loss issue as a company. Im doubtful they ahve stated they are break even and then some. So if its just manpower or because they ahve sent their dev team somewhere wonderful to beaver away on the NBI ( next bright idea) and we might geta followup patch to tryannis within a month or two ( can be hopeful but lets say may june July maybe august ?) no new ships, missions, planets, wormhole stuff, epic arcs nothing nothing nothing.
Something is amiss Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |

CptCrais
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Posted - 2010.05.08 13:32:00 -
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So is there actually gonna be anything else in Tyrannis other than planet mining?
I heared rumours of Tech 3 frigs , the other tech 3 subsystems , comets / planet ring mining?
It cant just be the planet mining, must be other stuffs coming with this expansion.
And dont forget the stealth nerfs and stuff they put in without saying anything.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.05.08 14:03:00 -
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Why limit yourself to frigs, show then the full might of BSs, or above ;)
Both frigs and BSes are made with loads of Tritanium. I suggest you go read what happens when they enter in many a planet atmosphere. - Auditing & consulting
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