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DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.06 01:48:00 - [91] Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.06 01:48:00 - [92] Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
VonKaplanek III	Posted - 2004.12.06 03:44:00 - [93] W0o0o0oT...lallante, your just jealous the mighty CA dont have a super safe spot blob killer like we do in HED , and if you think it means nothing, think again... It will be there for a while so get used to it. W0o0oT!
VonKaplanek III	Posted - 2004.12.06 03:44:00 - [94] W0o0o0oT...lallante, your just jealous the mighty CA dont have a super safe spot blob killer like we do in HED , and if you think it means nothing, think again... It will be there for a while so get used to it. W0o0oT!
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.12.06 07:52:00 - [95] Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 06/12/2004 07:56:21 When I first heard about it I did chuckle to be honest, just be glad stargate control isn't in yet :D Seeing as CCP have the starbases all but invulnerable will this xetic move precipitate a 1960's style arms race with CA having to ensure they always have one more pos in HED to stop it showing as XF space. Could be funny. Seriously though CCP, tone it down, making them strong is good but making them all but indestructible is a bit lame. The only valid tactic at present is to maintain a 23/7 camp, this is, practically speaking, impossible for all but the Korean apartment blocks. Nice to see the alts painting their image of the fleet battle though. These are not the droids you are looking for.
Iratus Caelestis	Posted - 2004.12.06 07:52:00 - [96] Edited by: Iratus Caelestis on 06/12/2004 07:56:21 When I first heard about it I did chuckle to be honest, just be glad stargate control isn't in yet :D Seeing as CCP have the starbases all but invulnerable will this xetic move precipitate a 1960's style arms race with CA having to ensure they always have one more pos in HED to stop it showing as XF space. Could be funny. Seriously though CCP, tone it down, making them strong is good but making them all but indestructible is a bit lame. The only valid tactic at present is to maintain a 23/7 camp, this is, practically speaking, impossible for all but the Korean apartment blocks. Nice to see the alts painting their image of the fleet battle though. These are not the droids you are looking for.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 10:28:00 - [97] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp AH... but you see DBP, this is where BoB are different, we are beyond caring how the eve community view us, it's feutile trying to change any such opinion. As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 10:28:00 - [98] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp AH... but you see DBP, this is where BoB are different, we are beyond caring how the eve community view us, it's feutile trying to change any such opinion. As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 10:29:00 - [99] Originally by: VonKaplanek III W0o0o0oT...lallante, your just jealous the mighty CA dont have a super safe spot blob killer like we do in HED , and if you think it means nothing, think again... It will be there for a while so get used to it. W0o0oT! Can you please clean up the mess you made on the carpet? Eris just hoovered in here for godsake! Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 10:29:00 - [100] Originally by: VonKaplanek III W0o0o0oT...lallante, your just jealous the mighty CA dont have a super safe spot blob killer like we do in HED , and if you think it means nothing, think again... It will be there for a while so get used to it. W0o0oT! Can you please clean up the mess you made on the carpet? Eris just hoovered in here for godsake! Reverend Necrona
MIss Givings	Posted - 2004.12.06 11:32:00 - [101] Originally by: Reverend Necrona As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Lol, "Xetic are a joke"..... Yawn How many times have we heard that from a CA mouth?! You thought we would be finished off when you started the war MONTHS ago... Let me check..... Yup we are still here, alive & kicking ____________________ XF
MIss Givings	Posted - 2004.12.06 11:32:00 - [102] Originally by: Reverend Necrona As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Lol, "Xetic are a joke"..... Yawn How many times have we heard that from a CA mouth?! You thought we would be finished off when you started the war MONTHS ago... Let me check..... Yup we are still here, alive & kicking ____________________ XF
Chowdown	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:06:00 - [103] Originally by: MIss Givings Originally by: Reverend Necrona As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Lol, "Xetic are a joke"..... Yawn How many times have we heard that from a CA mouth?! You thought we would be finished off when you started the war MONTHS ago... Let me check..... Yup we are still here, alive & kicking You go girlfriend , this isn't Jerry Springer. New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Chowdown	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:06:00 - [104] Originally by: MIss Givings Originally by: Reverend Necrona As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Lol, "Xetic are a joke"..... Yawn How many times have we heard that from a CA mouth?! You thought we would be finished off when you started the war MONTHS ago... Let me check..... Yup we are still here, alive & kicking You go girlfriend , this isn't Jerry Springer. New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Moiran	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:06:00 - [105] and we even can afford billions on an joke :) poor ca they can kill us 1000 times over and realise we have the isk to ensure way more ships then that. You think that firepower is everything in this game well guess what it isn't important. Ship insurance is 30 million we mine that in 30 minutes away lol so i guess if you blow up 2000 xetic ships a day we starting to feel somewhat hurted. But we wouldn't even let you. Slowly we will overwhelm you with our pos, we may not as strong (yet) but one thing i have no doubt xetic can produce like mad no intrest in working together to blow things up like ca does we work together in the game to create things. Exodus greatly rewards creating things so the balance will shift towards producing alliances, was about time.
Moiran	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:06:00 - [106] and we even can afford billions on an joke :) poor ca they can kill us 1000 times over and realise we have the isk to ensure way more ships then that. You think that firepower is everything in this game well guess what it isn't important. Ship insurance is 30 million we mine that in 30 minutes away lol so i guess if you blow up 2000 xetic ships a day we starting to feel somewhat hurted. But we wouldn't even let you. Slowly we will overwhelm you with our pos, we may not as strong (yet) but one thing i have no doubt xetic can produce like mad no intrest in working together to blow things up like ca does we work together in the game to create things. Exodus greatly rewards creating things so the balance will shift towards producing alliances, was about time.
Araviel	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:42:00 - [107] CA is ****ing me off now and im not roleplaying it anymore, lay down the smacktalk please or i wont buy you beers at the next fanfest EPIC Recruitment post
Araviel	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:42:00 - [108] CA is ****ing me off now and im not roleplaying it anymore, lay down the smacktalk please or i wont buy you beers at the next fanfest EPIC Recruitment post
MIss Givings	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:44:00 - [109] Edited by: MIss Givings on 06/12/2004 13:51:41 Originally by: Chowdown You go girlfriend , this isn't Jerry Springer. OMG really?!?! Nah surely your kidding me!! Dumb.... ____________________ XF
MIss Givings	Posted - 2004.12.06 13:44:00 - [110] Edited by: MIss Givings on 06/12/2004 13:51:41 Originally by: Chowdown You go girlfriend , this isn't Jerry Springer. OMG really?!?! Nah surely your kidding me!! Dumb.... ____________________ XF
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.06 14:10:00 - [111] Originally by: Reverend Necrona Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp AH... but you see DBP, this is where BoB are different, we are beyond caring how the eve community view us, it's feutile trying to change any such opinion. As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Why do you all keep posting so much trying to prove that the POS are unimportant in the control of HED-GP then? I think you care a great deal about the public's view of your alliance. Fact remains that when I open my map and look at who "owns" that solarsystem, I see Xetic own it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2004.12.06 14:10:00 - [112] Originally by: Reverend Necrona Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Lallante The POS doesnt mean anything. In the eyes of the average EvE player, it means they control HED. dbp AH... but you see DBP, this is where BoB are different, we are beyond caring how the eve community view us, it's feutile trying to change any such opinion. As for the issue, Xetic are a joke, had SA claimed i'd of probably shown a little more respect. I admire ppl that do this in the sense their pioneering what ccp eventually wants the game to be. We all wanted POS, now we got 'em. Great to see ppl using them, but XETIC really should get off their high horse if they think that just b/c it's setup that it's all over. Their taking huge losses in Empire space, 0.0 space and will no doubt be busy trying to not only recouperate those losses but also keep their pos's running. The logistics will no doubt be difficult especially with no where to hide ;). Why do you all keep posting so much trying to prove that the POS are unimportant in the control of HED-GP then? I think you care a great deal about the public's view of your alliance. Fact remains that when I open my map and look at who "owns" that solarsystem, I see Xetic own it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
The Altmeister	Posted - 2004.12.06 14:12:00 - [113] I think the issue here is one of philosophy. CA equates ship kills with power - Basically we kill you enough that you leave the area or do not operate there. Xif equates power with production - Basically we can produce enough that our greater ship loss doesn't matter. Add the POS to this equation and Xif states that they have a POS in HED which means they control it (check the map in game), However, CA sees no difference to how they operate so how can Xif control HED? IMHO HED is still contested (as is most of 0.0 tbh) and the POS adds nothing to controlling the area away from the Moon. my 2 pence
The Altmeister	Posted - 2004.12.06 14:12:00 - [114] I think the issue here is one of philosophy. CA equates ship kills with power - Basically we kill you enough that you leave the area or do not operate there. Xif equates power with production - Basically we can produce enough that our greater ship loss doesn't matter. Add the POS to this equation and Xif states that they have a POS in HED which means they control it (check the map in game), However, CA sees no difference to how they operate so how can Xif control HED? IMHO HED is still contested (as is most of 0.0 tbh) and the POS adds nothing to controlling the area away from the Moon. my 2 pence
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:04:00 - [115] Er... we have the likes of enslaver in CA, and you are willing to argue that we care about our public reputation? :/ No seriously, i can recall many a time we've said "fk the forums" etc. As for XETIC honking on about mining, that's about all you have, i'll admit hands down your good with logistics, to lose as many ships as you have and still be here is a testiment. However you do have a habbit of harping on about kicking CA's ass which has NEVER happend, unless you recall lone ganks and joint fleet operations with SA/ATUK. Think you'll find that's where the majority of CA's distaste for XETIC comes from. Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:04:00 - [116] Er... we have the likes of enslaver in CA, and you are willing to argue that we care about our public reputation? :/ No seriously, i can recall many a time we've said "fk the forums" etc. As for XETIC honking on about mining, that's about all you have, i'll admit hands down your good with logistics, to lose as many ships as you have and still be here is a testiment. However you do have a habbit of harping on about kicking CA's ass which has NEVER happend, unless you recall lone ganks and joint fleet operations with SA/ATUK. Think you'll find that's where the majority of CA's distaste for XETIC comes from. Reverend Necrona
Nepereta	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:40:00 - [117] Can people chill with all the smack talk. Otherwise this post will end up locked. I know the CA propaganda machine is working like crazy to create some positive spin on this and I can sympathise with that however please try to keep it clean and factual. Or nearly factual Lallante, dear I know HED-GP is a touchy subject thats why I decided to claim it. To all CA out there: Enjoy our success: because we are your foe and situations like this will make the war more interesting for you and for us. Until then in the words of a famous farmer : 'GET 'ORF MY LAANDDD!'
Nepereta	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:40:00 - [118] Can people chill with all the smack talk. Otherwise this post will end up locked. I know the CA propaganda machine is working like crazy to create some positive spin on this and I can sympathise with that however please try to keep it clean and factual. Or nearly factual Lallante, dear I know HED-GP is a touchy subject thats why I decided to claim it. To all CA out there: Enjoy our success: because we are your foe and situations like this will make the war more interesting for you and for us. Until then in the words of a famous farmer : 'GET 'ORF MY LAANDDD!'
Loka	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:00:00 - [119] You show balls and i respect this. Go on and iam sure we all will have fun. Iam very curious how this all will envelop and iam sure no one doubt a POS at an entrance is tactical advantage. Lets see if you can use it for your advantage or if it will change into a double edge sword. Netherthen less good luck and congrats. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:00:00 - [120] You show balls and i respect this. Go on and iam sure we all will have fun. Iam very curious how this all will envelop and iam sure no one doubt a POS at an entrance is tactical advantage. Lets see if you can use it for your advantage or if it will change into a double edge sword. Netherthen less good luck and congrats. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive

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