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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.05.08 21:24:00 -
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Hey, you can't expect everyone to have the capability of understanding sarcasm.
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Francais Tempest
Gallente
White Knights Imperius
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Posted - 2010.05.08 21:56:00 -
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If there was sarcasm at all in the discussion, I apologize... I'm sarcasm illiterate, especially online.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari
Grunt Slackers
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Posted - 2010.05.09 12:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Backho
thrashers are awesome in suicide ganking.
3+ thrashers can kill hulks , industrials, cruisers, frigs with their 1200 alpha
and it takes only 4 days to train
destroyer IV-->Gunnery IV--->Surgical strike IV-->Small proj turrets IV --> $$$$ profit.
Then you would want to dump your -5.0 sec account anyways.
Good fun
Dumping a character to avoid the problems of a negative security level is I believe an exploit.
*shrug* might want to check up on that.
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Riedle
Minmatar
Origin.
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Francais Tempest
So... you just proved my point?
Really, unless you have used every destroyer in every possible role, don't say they are all horrible for everything but salvaging. Just makes you look stupid.
LOL you are cute when you are dumb
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Lubomir Penev
interimo
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Francais Tempest
Showing your killboard says nothing about your usage of the destroyer. In fact, all yours says is you've killed some in the Matar one. Thats 1/4.
We cannot determine from your kb if the destroyer is good or bad in any of the possible roles, whether it be FW, small gangs, mission running, mining, exploration, or massive fleet battles. All we know form your kb is that you've killed ships with it. Big deal.
You're really embarrassing yourself here.
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Russel Williams
Minmatar
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:00:00 -
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You gentlemen are a bit late, don't you think? 
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Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Russel Williams
Originally by: Francais Tempest
Showing your killboard says nothing about your usage of the destroyer. In fact, all yours says is you've killed some in the Matar one. Thats 1/4.
We cannot determine from your kb if the destroyer is good or bad in any of the possible roles, whether it be FW, small gangs, mission running, mining, exploration, or massive fleet battles. All we know form your kb is that you've killed ships with it. Big deal.
Yup, quite slow. Oh well. 
Now now, don't disabuse them of their notions about how much RVB pilots suck at PVP it might discourage 3rd parties from wardeccing us. and that would mean fewer targets and fewer targets is bad.
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Max Hardcase
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:45:00 -
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Edited by: Max Hardcase on 13/05/2010 17:46:51
My 10 second destroyer fix :
sig radius = biggest frig of race +10
+1 tanking slot ( appropiate to race ) Exception : Coercer, which gets +1mid ( 1 midslot is the suck)
10% speed and agility bonus.
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Patrice Macmahon
Department of Defence
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:58:00 -
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Corcer is a very solid small fleet destroyer with range adaptability and high tracking, Bring 2 to protect your snipers from intercepters.
Comorant is a sweet sniper boat, 100 DPS at 100KM, in small frig warfare (I.E. Faction Warfare) these are brutal little ships for defending buttons and giving essentially un-removable DPS from the field.
Catalyst - Best 0.0 Destroyer I've ever played with. Faction fit with 125's, a repper and a tracking computer and you can Rat Solo In 0.0 with impunity. You can push off all frig attackers and warp out faster than anything that COULD cause a problem can catch ya.
Thrasher - Brainless close range pew pew boat. Great Alpha, good for DPS support and easy to fit. Great if you can't fit a catalyst/Comorant Propperly.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.05.13 18:48:00 -
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I would imagine a lot of people in faction warfare use them because of all the frigates that are used, but outside faction warfare I dont think people bother, I've never really had much success with them anyway, too thin skinned.
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Ahz
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Posted - 2010.05.13 19:37:00 -
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I always thought you should be able to use them as an anti-drone, anti-fighter tool.
Then 0.0 corps would have an incentive to keep a few around as close support in fleet combat.
Tried it on Sisi and they just don't hit hard enough to insti-pop fighters.
Maybe increased tracking speed or something.
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Athena Silk
void.
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:53:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 13/05/2010 17:46:51
My 10 second destroyer fix :
sig radius = biggest frig of race +10
+1 tanking slot ( appropiate to race ) Exception : Coercer, which gets +1mid ( 1 midslot is the suck)
10% speed and agility bonus.
I agree with you about the sig radius. It really is way too huge, especially when you're in a Cormorant with MSE and shield rigs.
As for the +1 slot, I have to disagree with you there. Thrasher is fine, and really doesn't need +1 slot. A 2nd mid-slot for the Coercer would be nice, but it doesn't really need one for it's role of small gang DPS or fleet anti-support (where you have frigates to tackle for you). Think Retribution, but slightly larger and a lot cheaper. What the Catty, Corm and Coercer need (especially the catty and corm) is PG. Trying to fit anything larger than Electrons on a Catalyst or Cormorant with a bit of buffer is next to impossible, and you can forget about Neutrons unless you're flying a guns-only suicide gank-boat. Coercer has the same problem trying to fit anything bigger than Gattling Pulse Lasers.
The speed and agility bonus would be good, though.
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Max Hardcase
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.05.14 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Max Hardcase on 14/05/2010 20:44:29
Originally by: Athena Silk
Originally by: Max Hardcase
Edited by: Max Hardcase on 13/05/2010 17:46:51
My 10 second destroyer fix :
sig radius = biggest frig of race +10
+1 tanking slot ( appropiate to race ) Exception : Coercer, which gets +1mid ( 1 midslot is the suck)
10% speed and agility bonus.
I agree with you about the sig radius. It really is way too huge, especially when you're in a Cormorant with MSE and shield rigs.
As for the +1 slot, I have to disagree with you there. Thrasher is fine, and really doesn't need +1 slot. A 2nd mid-slot for the Coercer would be nice, but it doesn't really need one for it's role of small gang DPS or fleet anti-support (where you have frigates to tackle for you). Think Retribution, but slightly larger and a lot cheaper. What the Catty, Corm and Coercer need (especially the catty and corm) is PG. Trying to fit anything larger than Electrons on a Catalyst or Cormorant with a bit of buffer is next to impossible, and you can forget about Neutrons unless you're flying a guns-only suicide gank-boat. Coercer has the same problem trying to fit anything bigger than Gattling Pulse Lasers.
The speed and agility bonus would be good, though.
An extra low slot could be used for more PG as well....
My thoughts with the speed and agility are simple, they're too sluggish for a small platform designed to hunt frigs currently.
@ Ahz : Fighters have way more EHP than a frigate. They survive multiple bombs...
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.15 15:51:00 -
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I salvaged 4 destroyers and a hulk yesterday.
Obviously a suicide gank.
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