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Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.13 06:45:00 - [1] there are a number of reasons no coalition will ever be able to wage a "successful" campaign against another coalition. first and foremost, at the helm of these coalitions are not competant players but rather popular personalities/diplomats. these people are incapable of commanding a fleet and instead pin success on some vague references to "being able to maintain friendships" which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard considering these "blobs" form as a result of human nature rather than anyones "hard work". so thats the first issue, the leaders dont know what the **** they are doing and despite what they want you to believe they really are just winging it. the second reason is that these coalitions as ive stated do not form out of any real sense of friendship/kinship/likemindedness. they form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear, RONRIENESS(false belonging), security. thats how it is irl, thats how it is in this game. so when it comes down to it, the very members involved are not really gaining anything out of these wars. (especially seeing as practically none of the members involved in these wars are pvpers regadless of how hard you try to convinse anyone otherwise). thirdly newer players who dont have a clue about this game or its past history always seem willing to flood the ranks of these coalitions, throwing their support based on nothing behind groups that dont deserve or require it. this only serves to prolong these largely boring and pointless conflicts. fourthly "propaganda" means next to nothing in this game. sure you have certain people who make it work HI GUYS! but for the most part you have a bunch of goon/wi rejects who have nothing original or thoughtful to say and rely heavily on warn out memes to deliver FALCON PUNCHES to the faces of their enemies! when in reality they just reflect poorely on themselves and their respective alliances. all the while these people convinse themselves they are funny and/or liked by their fellow alliance mates (wake up to yourselves -_-) ive said a number of times, if there was a competant pvper at the head of either of these mega blobs who would actually be listend to... the other side would have no chance. it never ceases to amaze me how many times obvious results to engagements come forward and the majority of eve seems shocked by them! or how many times easy traps are fallen into/not put into effect. in summary if you want to blame people for how bad these sides are... we need to blame ourselves, because tollerating and joining this sort of drivel is how it begins to set in. and after a while people who dont know better keep these organisms alive past their expirey date. . THE ORIGINAL COLOR POSTER! RELOADED!
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:04:00 - [2] Edited by: Minigin on 13/05/2010 08:04:36 Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 13/05/2010 07:30:12 1. Organising a coalition really needs both. You need administrators to keep it together and you need a shared vision with FC's. 2. You are wrong atleast when it comes to the NC. It wasn't formed out of greed. It was formed out of a will to shape our own destiny at the top end of EVE and to provide a possibility for smaller alliances to compete where we were otherwise gonna be outclassed by the southern alliances 3 times our size. 3. Or maybe the coalitions appeal to newer players because they want to experience the end game and see what it's like. Each to their own taste but I personally have no problem understanding what drives new players to coalitions and the biggest wars we have on this server. It is afterall quite a big part of what makes EVE unique. 4. If you mean spouting off in local or on COAD then you are right. if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong. I'm sorry it takes effort nowadays. Oh and I'm sorry for giving your bitter post a decent reply. I'm sorry we weren't ready to roll over and die just yet. ;) you are a)naieve b)damage controllinz (i wouldnt worry too much if i was you... this **** goes right over the heads of the people you count on to maintain your power) i would go with naieve though because if you wernt you would have quit the game or done your own thing by now. (or a mix of the two) i would also go with naievety/delusions of granduer because of this comment "if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong". i mean i dont really re-read what i post... but i cant believe you thought that sounded good/correct the first time. your administrators and fcs are both as terrible as ive seen of any coalition. your coalition is not different it is based on greed/security and the second threats are removed you will squable amongst one another as has been proven time and time again irl and ingame, tricking new players into essentially wasting their lives to watch blackscreen and get blueballs is not endgame... its your leaders willing to bore and throw away the time of people who dont know better, my posts are not bitter, they are accurate. that this reflects poorely on certain people is not my concern. it could be... if you paid me... just face it... you are just like everyone else. and i mean that in the most condecending way imaginable. . THE ORIGINAL COLOR POSTER! RELOADED!
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 04:59:00 - [3] Edited by: Minigin on 16/05/2010 05:04:54 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin you are naieve Yeah dude, I have no clue how EVE works. You however having never led anything above 100 members got it all figured out. if you want to keep pretending that what you are doing is hard... go right ahead. you might be fooling the people who are following you, you might even be fooling yourself. but you dont fool me wink Originally by: Kastera When you attack one alliance in the NC, you attack ALL the alliances in NC. Not to mention they are sitting on the most prime real estate in the game. my dear, i have seen the nc unify a number of times now, and trust me... some animals are more equal than others. i expect you will be eating your words some day. the only thing the sc has over the nc is they dont pretend they are bffs <3 and wont start stabbing the crap out of one another. whether this is wise or unwise is another matter, but i think you get my point. . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Thorir > How does it feel beeing in the alliance that is the laughingstock of all mature 0.0 alliances[/limegreen]
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 05:10:00 - [4] Originally by: dastommy79 bro i put 110% into this. HOW DARE YOU nah bro you dont understand... fredo is the real hard worker... he has single handedly kept rzr together all these years. the rest of us are just grunts we need him to tell us how to think. (might be true if we are in rzr tbh) - wow thats a can of worms. <3 dast . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Thorir > How does it feel beeing in the alliance that is the laughingstock of all mature 0.0 alliances
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 10:21:00 - [5] Edited by: Minigin on 16/05/2010 10:25:25 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin ... I didn't say it is hard. I said I had it more figured out than you do. And from your limited time in RAWR and our experience with you I'm pretty sure everyone agrees. You have no idea at all how anything works. In fact If I was you I'd check if my pants were on backwards or not, then again, how would I know? i was in rawr???? - dast!!! check this idiot out... he thinks he knows me! hahahahahaha! btw you are almost definatly thinking of shinma and i completely agree... he is beyond ******ed and really does have no idea whats going on. but your going to have to eat your words because im pretty sure hes going to go back to mm soon (despite happilly trying to sell them out) . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Revisal > Nice job trying to troll me but luckily I'm smarter than you. :D

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