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RifterDrifter Minmatar They Found Oil On Your Anus	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:04:00 - [1] Edited by: RifterDrifter on 13/05/2010 02:05:23 But watching the SC failing on every account really makes me cringe. The SC SHOULD have the Numbers, Ships, and ISK to totally destroy the NC yet you still manage to completely ** it up. Soon you will return south ***ing about Lag and broken Sov mechanics padding yourself on the back for trying your best, not facing the fact that you had the potential, but completely failed because of a halfassed approach, nonexistent Organization and your inability to think any plan through to the end. There really is NOTHING for both powerblocks to do but attack each other yet it has become painfully obvious that 0.0 will continue to be a stagnating craptastic Napfest for years to come because both Powerblocks are unwilling and unable to kill each other. inb4 cry more & umad _______________________________________________
Arrador Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:07:00 - [2] Cry Some more
Czeris Caldari Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:08:00 - [3] u mad?
Dogs Breath Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:13:00 - [4] Originally by: RifterDrifter Edited by: RifterDrifter on 13/05/2010 02:05:23 But watching the SC failing on every account really makes me cringe. The SC SHOULD have the Numbers, Ships, and ISK to totally destroy the NC yet you still manage to completely ** it up. Soon you will return south ***ing about Lag and broken Sov mechanics padding yourself on the back for trying your best, not facing the fact that you had the potential, but completely failed because of a halfassed approach, nonexistent Organization and your inability to think any plan through to the end. There really is NOTHING for both powerblocks to do but attack each other yet it has become painfully obvious that 0.0 will continue to be a stagnating craptastic Napfest for years to come because both Powerblocks are unwilling and unable to kill each other. inb4 cry more & umad Quoting for future reference. ----------------------------- R&D Agent Guide
Rakshan Gallente Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:14:00 - [5] Edited by: Rakshan on 13/05/2010 02:14:36 Originally by: RifterDrifter Edited by: RifterDrifter on 13/05/2010 02:05:23 But watching the SC failing on every account really makes me cringe. The SC SHOULD have the Numbers, Ships, and ISK to totally destroy the NC yet you still manage to completely ** it up. Soon you will return south *ing about Lag and broken Sov mechanics padding yourself on the back for trying your best, not facing the fact that you had the potential, but completely fail** because of a halfassed approach, nonexistent Organization and your inability to think any plan through to the end. There really is NOTHING for both powerblocks to do but attack each other yet it has become painfully obvious that 0.0 will continue to be a stagnating craptastic Napfest for years to come because both Powerblocks are unwilling and unable to kill each other. inb4 cry more & umad that Life is Pain.....Get over it!!!!
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:21:00 - [6] WITH THE LOSS OF MY MOROS, SURELY THE SC IS DOOMED. ALL HOPE IS LOST. i will be taking donations from NC members so feel free all you 111 dudes that shot me to give me a little something for your hours of camping pleasure I role play ewok
DarthDeaconRage Minmatar No.Mercy Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:31:00 - [7] Cantaloupe with frozen yogurt
8O2080208O2080208020 Minmatar Alliance Logo Inc Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:12:00 - [8] "The sensation you are feeling is the quickening"
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:20:00 - [9] I find it funny that defending one of the major home system in a last ditch effort with a multi-alliance emergency CTA and loosing 60+ caps and several other systems due to that is called a victory. Sure, the NC did hold the system in the end, but everything else would have been a total desaster. And to the op, if you want to see the NC burn, why aren't you going to start playing with matches?
groak Minmatar Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Gnulpie I find it funny that defending one of the major home system in a last ditch effort with a multi-alliance emergency CTA and loosing 60+ caps and several other systems due to that is called a victory. Sure, the NC did hold the system in the end, but everything else would have been a total desaster. And to the op, if you want to see the NC burn, why aren't you going to start playing with matches? You r trying too hard sister racefist Signature removed. Unsuitable for EVE forums. Navigator

Misaki Tanaka Caldari Dreddit	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:29:00 - [11] Originally by: Gnulpie I find it funny that defending one of the major home system in a last ditch effort with a multi-alliance emergency CTA and loosing 60+ caps and several other systems due to that is called a victory. Sure, the NC did hold the system in the end, but everything else would have been a total desaster. Question for you, who owns that system right now? It's like saying because America took more losses in the Revolutionary war it's a total disaster. ----
Marlona Sky Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:45:00 - [12]
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.13 06:45:00 - [13] there are a number of reasons no coalition will ever be able to wage a "successful" campaign against another coalition. first and foremost, at the helm of these coalitions are not competant players but rather popular personalities/diplomats. these people are incapable of commanding a fleet and instead pin success on some vague references to "being able to maintain friendships" which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard considering these "blobs" form as a result of human nature rather than anyones "hard work". so thats the first issue, the leaders dont know what the **** they are doing and despite what they want you to believe they really are just winging it. the second reason is that these coalitions as ive stated do not form out of any real sense of friendship/kinship/likemindedness. they form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear, RONRIENESS(false belonging), security. thats how it is irl, thats how it is in this game. so when it comes down to it, the very members involved are not really gaining anything out of these wars. (especially seeing as practically none of the members involved in these wars are pvpers regadless of how hard you try to convinse anyone otherwise). thirdly newer players who dont have a clue about this game or its past history always seem willing to flood the ranks of these coalitions, throwing their support based on nothing behind groups that dont deserve or require it. this only serves to prolong these largely boring and pointless conflicts. fourthly "propaganda" means next to nothing in this game. sure you have certain people who make it work HI GUYS! but for the most part you have a bunch of goon/wi rejects who have nothing original or thoughtful to say and rely heavily on warn out memes to deliver FALCON PUNCHES to the faces of their enemies! when in reality they just reflect poorely on themselves and their respective alliances. all the while these people convinse themselves they are funny and/or liked by their fellow alliance mates (wake up to yourselves -_-) ive said a number of times, if there was a competant pvper at the head of either of these mega blobs who would actually be listend to... the other side would have no chance. it never ceases to amaze me how many times obvious results to engagements come forward and the majority of eve seems shocked by them! or how many times easy traps are fallen into/not put into effect. in summary if you want to blame people for how bad these sides are... we need to blame ourselves, because tollerating and joining this sort of drivel is how it begins to set in. and after a while people who dont know better keep these organisms alive past their expirey date. . THE ORIGINAL COLOR POSTER! RELOADED!
Entaran Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:23:00 - [14] ITT Minigin uses spellcheck...
Sextus Licinius Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:26:00 - [15] OP is stupid and minigin heavily medicated again. I hope this will clear everything up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 "These people that we've wasted today are the finest human beings ever. When we'll rotate back in the world, we gonna miss not having anyone worth shooting... Full Metal Jacket"
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:29:00 - [16] Edited by: Fred0 on 13/05/2010 07:30:12 1. Organising a coalition really needs both. You need administrators to keep it together and you need a shared vision with FC's. 2. You are wrong atleast when it comes to the NC. It wasn't formed out of greed. It was formed out of a will to shape our own destiny at the top end of EVE and to provide a possibility for smaller alliances to compete where we were otherwise gonna be outclassed by the southern alliances 3 times our size. 3. Or maybe the coalitions appeal to newer players because they want to experience the end game and see what it's like. Each to their own taste but I personally have no problem understanding what drives new players to coalitions and the biggest wars we have on this server. It is afterall quite a big part of what makes EVE unique. 4. If you mean spouting off in local or on COAD then you are right. if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong. I'm sorry it takes effort nowadays. Oh and I'm sorry for giving your bitter post a decent reply. I'm sorry we weren't ready to roll over and die just yet. ;) --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
fascinate Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:02:00 - [17] #1) It's just a game bro. #2) The only reason X invades Y is for ** to do. #2.33) No entity that has the capacity to invade a power bloc gives a ** about what you think about it. #3) Go outside, have something to drink, talk to a girl. #4) Profit...
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:02:00 - [18] I find the fact that the three first people who replied to this thread are are members of NC or SC and,according to the killboards, useless hangerons who apparently join fleet only once a week or less in **fits very telling. Originally by:** Fred0 2. You are wrong atleast when it comes to the NC. It wasn't formed out of greed. It was formed out of a will to shape our own destiny at the top end of EVE and to provide a possibility for smaller alliances to compete where we were otherwise gonna be outclassed by the southern alliances 3 times our size. It was formed under D2 for fear of BoB and it's predecessors and you know it. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:04:00 - [19] Edited by: Minigin on 13/05/2010 08:04:36 Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 13/05/2010 07:30:12 1. Organising a coalition really needs both. You need administrators to keep it together and you need a shared vision with FC's. 2. You are wrong atleast when it comes to the NC. It wasn't formed out of greed. It was formed out of a will to shape our own destiny at the top end of EVE and to provide a possibility for smaller alliances to compete where we were otherwise gonna be outclassed by the southern alliances 3 times our size. 3. Or maybe the coalitions appeal to newer players because they want to experience the end game and see what it's like. Each to their own taste but I personally have no problem understanding what drives new players to coalitions and the biggest wars we have on this server. It is afterall quite a big part of what makes EVE unique. 4. If you mean spouting off in local or on COAD then you are right. if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong. I'm sorry it takes effort nowadays. Oh and I'm sorry for giving your bitter post a decent reply. I'm sorry we weren't ready to roll over and die just yet. ;) you are a)naieve b)damage controllinz (i wouldnt worry too much if i was you... this **** goes right over the heads of the people you count on to maintain your power) i would go with naieve though because if you wernt you would have quit the game or done your own thing by now. (or a mix of the two) i would also go with naievety/delusions of granduer because of this comment "if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong". i mean i dont really re-read what i post... but i cant believe you thought that sounded good/correct the first time. your administrators and fcs are both as terrible as ive seen of any coalition. your coalition is not different it is based on greed/security and the second threats are removed you will squable amongst one another as has been proven time and time again irl and ingame, tricking new players into essentially wasting their lives to watch blackscreen and get blueballs is not endgame... its your leaders willing to bore and throw away the time of people who dont know better, my posts are not bitter, they are accurate. that this reflects poorely on certain people is not my concern. it could be... if you paid me... just face it... you are just like everyone else. and i mean that in the most condecending way imaginable. . THE ORIGINAL COLOR POSTER! RELOADED!
Bobbechk Caldari North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:29:00 - [20] Originally by: RifterDrifter Edited by: RifterDrifter on 13/05/2010 02:05:23 0.0 will continue to be a stagnating craptastic Napfest for years to come because both Powerblocks are unwilling and unable to kill each other. Confirming 0.0 would be a better place with only 1 powerblock ________

PP Sledge Gallente Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.13 09:42:00 - [21] Originally by: Boppi I find the fact that the three first people who replied to this thread are are members of NC or SC and,according to the killboards, useless hangerons who apparently join fleet only once a week or less in ****fits very telling. I think it is more telling that you apparently devote enough time to a video game to join fleets more than once a week. :wink
RifterDrifter Minmatar They Found Oil On Your Anus	Posted - 2010.05.13 12:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Bobbechk Confirming 0.0 would be a better place with only 1 powerblock If you are implying i am an NC-Fanboy, you are a dumb ****. _______________________________________________
Welshy RL Gallente Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.05.13 13:15:00 - [23] hmm Stuped war tba lol nc will have more ship to bring to the table and out blob SC cuz its there home land i hate sc and nc so lol they both suck :P
Arrador Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.13 13:34:00 - [24] Edited by: Arrador on 13/05/2010 13:34:36 Originally by: Boppi I find the fact that the three first people who replied to this thread are are members of NC or SC and,according to the killboards, useless hangerons who apparently join fleet only once a week or less in ****fits very telling. hey now.... What wrong with my caracal fits? They are much better then my blackbird fits
Ur235 Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:12:00 - [25] Edited by: Ur235 on 13/05/2010 16:16:44 Tbh the NC would not bother attacking the SC there too happy making lotsa isk, at least the SC try to mix things up a but the NC is completley boring tbh they would not have the balls or be bothered enough to launch a SC style invasion. We either need CCP to have a complete rethink about how SOV mechanics are to work so its doesnt take 3 days of constant grinding and shooting Ihub's, TCU's and SBU's etc and pouring 1500+ pilots into 1 system in which case the node dies and its a freakin turkeyshoot for the next 6 hours or so Or reset the whole of 0.0 or make another 20 or so regions of 0.0 space, obv none of these options are viable and 0.0 will prob be like this till the day Eve dies thats the sad conclusion.
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:17:00 - [26] LOL...just LOL. So much bitter nonsense in this thread. ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Tero Alphaverti Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2010.05.13 16:52:00 - [27] If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of 0.0, could the force to destroy the coalitions ever be generated.
D3rg3 Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 18:48:00 - [28] CCP does not provide a server robust enough to handle the numbers needed to oust any large alliance from their space. It is a simple fact of the game right now. At least the SC are actually making the game interesting by attacking anyway. Fail or Win, they didnt sit on their asses spinning ships and shooting roids. think about that for awhile
bloody johnroberts Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:27:00 - [29] oh but the sc has some of the best fc's in the game today 1,A,J REGARD 2,hmmm 3,still thinking 4,nope sorry cant think of anymore
Ur235 Gallente Empire Assault Corp Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:34:00 - [30] Edited by: Ur235 on 13/05/2010 19:35:58 Originally by: bloody johnroberts oh but the sc has some of the best fc's in the game today 1,A,J REGARD 2,hmmm 3,still thinking 4,nope sorry cant think of anymore Mate your in an alliance that does **** all except sits at home twidling there thumbs and building super caps waiting for something to happen and then follow everyones elses fcs when something finally does happen Bascially your opinion on anyone elses Fc's means nothing

Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:36:00 - [31] Originally by: D3rg3 CCP does not provide a server robust enough to handle the numbers needed to oust any large alliance from their space. It is a simple fact of the game right now. At least the SC are actually making the game interesting by attacking anyway. Fail or Win, they didnt sit on their asses spinning ships and shooting roids. think about that for awhile So you are getting your asses handed to you by a bunch of carebaers with no combat experience. Think about that for a while --- Witness epic fleet battles in Dominion
cheese monkey Minmatar D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:42:00 - [32] Edited by: cheese monkey on 13/05/2010 19:43:25 WTF. For the last 8 months ive been mostly away from game. Ive been travelling the world, but trying to keep my hand into the big changes. Your telling me 0.0 is stagnent and hasnt changed and wont change?! are you %^"ú$%$%&*!"ú$%*ing kidding me! Since ive been away nearly every region (hate to say bar a few in the north) has changed hands. You sir are what most countries would call 'special'
FubarSF Caldari Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:49:00 - [33] Epic Fail this thread is... sig nerfed ;/
Danny Lonnegan Caldari Nex Somes Ubertas Venator Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.05.13 20:04:00 - [34] Originally by: D3rg3 CCP does not provide a server robust enough to handle the numbers needed to oust any large alliance from their space. It is a simple fact of the game right now. At least the SC are actually making the game interesting by attacking anyway. Fail or Win, they didnt sit on their asses spinning ships and shooting roids. think about that for awhile This thread is golden. "I hate how null is a big NAP-train blobfest! If only the SC would defeat the only organized political entity large enough to stand up to it, and install a bunch of pets in its place. Then null wouldn't be a NAP-train anymore!" Followed by, "Game is broken; it's impossible to win a big war, but at least the SC tried!" Because I hear Molle didn't expect to win and the SC is a charity outfit that starts unwinnable wars so everybody can have ~goodfights~.
Impact1983 Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Cult of War	Posted - 2010.05.13 20:22:00 - [35] Originally by: bloody johnroberts oh but the sc has some of the best fc's in the game today 1,A,J REGARD 2,hmmm 3,still thinking 4,nope sorry cant think of anymore There are plenty of good FCs in the SC and I will willing to bet that there are plenty of good FCs in the NC but I have been in fleet as a grunt when orders come in from the higher ups that make the FC cry as they will be killing their fleet. But back to the FCs, I have flown under a few Atlas FCs that I loved, some AAA FCs but then some noob FC take charge and screw it all up. COW has a few great FCs and a few not so great ones. With this war going 23 hours a day its draw of the luck to get in fleet with good ones and just bare with it when you are in fleet with bad ones. Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose.
PIMPerian Amarr In for the Kill Scooty Puff Junior Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 20:34:00 - [36] SuperTwinkey is A-Team FC. Not everyone can be that good.
Holick Caldari Solar Nexus. OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.13 21:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Impact1983 Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose. Really???? Great I don't want yall to leave anyway. Actually Never leave, go crash on the NPC station couches and enjoy your stay here; beer is in the fridge. Our KB and hangars have never seen so much faction loot in such a short period of time; this is better than carebearing!!! Not only am I getting loot and faction drops, I get to shoot at something a tad bit smarter than rats. I call it "Fail Plexing", and at the end of each plex there is a SUPERCARRIER or TITAN!! matter of fact lets redo H-W siege all over again. we can call it "H-W mk2". Naaaaaa lets switch it up some, yall go pick another system and siege it and we will try to defend it. Silly me, yall been trying to do this for over a month now.
Lynn Deniera Caldari The Foreign Legion Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.13 22:33:00 - [38] Originally by: fascinate #1) It's just a game bro. #2) The only reason X invades Y is for ** to do. #2.33) No entity that has the capacity to invade a power bloc gives a ** about what you think about it. #3) Go outside, have something to drink, talk to a girl. #4) Profit... Jesus Christ, theres no need to go all philosohpically existential on our ass
Gloster II Caldari Project Stealth Squad Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.13 23:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Impact1983 ... Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose. Our pvpers are very happy .. that you guys are here in the north... very nice, to have pvp next to our door. We are happy about the comming gfs .
drall Gallente Isk	Posted - 2010.05.14 00:07:00 - [40] Originally by: Holick Originally by: Impact1983 Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose. Really???? Great I don't want yall to leave anyway. Actually Never leave, go crash on the NPC station couches and enjoy your stay here; beer is in the fridge. Our KB and hangars have never seen so much faction loot in such a short period of time; this is better than carebearing!!! Not only am I getting loot and faction drops, I get to shoot at something a tad bit smarter than rats. I call it "Fail Plexing", and at the end of each plex there is a SUPERCARRIER or TITAN!! matter of fact lets redo H-W siege all over again. we can call it "H-W mk2". Naaaaaa lets switch it up some, yall go pick another system and siege it and we will try to defend it. Silly me, yall been trying to do this for over a month now. I love the cheat beating from all the nc. I'm not sure what in find funnier. SC losing 5 Super Carriers. OR NC killing a titan and 5 super carriers and still are behind the SC in total isk damage dealt. KBs tell us your stories.

Kastera Minmatar Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.14 00:33:00 - [41] This thread is too loltastic to not comment on. First off, I've spent most of my 0.0 time in the south with Atlas renter alliances until recently (and by recently I mean two days). I've never been part of any major war, a major fleet, a large alliance or anything really on the larger scale of what Eve has to offer. However, a few things prompted my moving my corp to the NC. Let me explain a few points to help people understand why Atlas, IT and their respective pets (Don't call them a coalition... doing so provides the assumption that they actually communicate on a productive level) fail. Atlas is way too spread out for it's own good and owns more space than it can effectively manage, as does IT. To mitigate this, they turn it over to renters. Now this is common among many of the larger alliances, however NC actually helps theirs and treats it as family. Atlas and IT do not. Example. Look at ALL the systems in Wicked Creek, where many Atlas renters reside, that Section XIII has taken sov in. Has Atlas responded in any way? No, they haven't. Curse Alliance has begun to drop sbu's in Insmother. Has Atlas responded yet? No, they haven't. SYS-K is essentially getting prison **d down south in Period Basis and Esoteria. Has IT gone to help in any effective way? No, they haven't. Even Red Alliance has increased roam activity and size into the Insmother region lately, with no response for Atlas. Atlas and IT have essentially left their renter alliances and some of their 'friends' ing in the wind with little to no support. NC on the other hand.... NC operates off of one TS server. They make fleets for the entire Coalition and share systems. They share their JB's and pool resources if needed. They operate as ONE SINGLE ENTITY. That, my dear friends, is a true coalition. One the treats everyone in it as family and is there for each other no matter what. That BFF sh!t is for real homie. When you attack one alliance in the NC, you attack ALL the alliances in NC. Not to mention they are sitting on the most prime real estate in the game. The money they make from mining r64 moons ALONE makes hundreds of billions of isk per month for some of the alliances. So basically, this whole SC invasion is a bit of a cluster** and will continue to be that way until Atlas and IT decide to actually develop a gameplan that will get sh!t done in an effective manner. In two days, I have been completely shocked at the sheer organizational skills of the NC. The fact that when something happens, a fleet is announced in the numerous intel channels and within 10 minutes there are hundreds of pilots from ALL the alliances no matter what time of day. I'm proud to say that I am now a part of the NC and I plan to remain here for the rest of my Eve days. NC BFF's! Bro Fist Formation
Malur Fy'Lap Caldari Solar Nexus. OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.14 01:37:00 - [42] Originally by: drall Originally by: Holick Originally by: Impact1983 Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose. Really???? Great I don't want yall to leave anyway. Actually Never leave, go crash on the NPC station couches and enjoy your stay here; beer is in the fridge. Our KB and hangars have never seen so much faction loot in such a short period of time; this is better than carebearing!!! Not only am I getting loot and faction drops, I get to shoot at something a tad bit smarter than rats. I call it "Fail Plexing", and at the end of each plex there is a SUPERCARRIER or TITAN!! matter of fact lets redo H-W siege all over again. we can call it "H-W mk2". Naaaaaa lets switch it up some, yall go pick another system and siege it and we will try to defend it. Silly me, yall been trying to do this for over a month now. I love the cheat beating from all the nc. I'm not sure what in find funnier. SC losing 5 Super Carriers. OR NC killing a titan and 5 super carriers and still are behind the SC in total isk damage dealt. KBs tell us your stories. You sound easy to manipulate
Beachura Caldari G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.14 08:30:00 - [43] Edited by: Beachura on 14/05/2010 08:33:12 you are a)naieve b)damage controllinz (i wouldnt worry too much if i was you... this **** goes right over the heads of the people you count on to maintain your power) i would go with naieve though because if you wernt you would have quit the game or done your own thing by now. (or a mix of the two) i would also go with naievety/delusions of granduer because of this comment "if you are talking about more quiet measures to spread disbelief in other alliances then you are wrong". i mean i dont really re-read what i post... but i cant believe you thought that sounded good/correct the first time. your administrators and fcs are both as terrible as ive seen of any coalition. your coalition is not different it is based on greed/security and the second threats are removed you will squable amongst one another as has been proven time and time again irl and ingame, tricking new players into essentially wasting their lives to watch blackscreen and get blueballs is not endgame... its your leaders willing to bore and throw away the time of people who dont know better, my posts are not bitter, they are accurate. that this reflects poorely on certain people is not my concern. it could be... if you paid me... just face it... you are just like everyone else. and i mean that in the most condecending way imaginable. Who the hell, do you think you are, I have listened to your obnoxious, audacious excuses for blocks of text, and quite frankly good sir, it's not worth the asp code it's written on; You are narrow minded and opinionated enough to quash a very fair and logical idea and label that person as 'everyone else' Finally, you rant about people who are 'unoriginal' You are a member of WE FORM VOLTRON, arguably the corp / alliance with the largest previous history for `trolling` and being unoriginal Stop insulting everyone who has an opinion that differs from your skewed bitter and twisted outlook on coalitions and alliances. Why don't you `Just face it` Your self important and obnoxious to the largest degree Oh and By the way Using coloured text does not make you look impressive, everyone else can use bbcode aswell
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.14 08:37:00 - [44] Originally by: Minigin you are naieve Yeah dude, I have no clue how EVE works. You however having never led anything above 100 members got it all figured out. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Beachura Caldari G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.14 08:39:00 - [45] Edited by: Beachura on 14/05/2010 08:39:20 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin you are naieve Yeah dude, I have no clue how EVE works. You however having never led anything above 100 members got it all figured out. he's an opinionated biggot let him stew in his own failtron crap
Kyger Litor Minmatar Solar Nexus. OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.14 11:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Minigin and i mean that in the most condecending way imaginable. Talking of condecending, it's actually spelled "condescending" See what I did there?
Beachura Caldari G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.14 11:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Kyger Litor Originally by: Minigin and i mean that in the most condecending way imaginable. Talking of condecending, it's actually spelled "condescending" See what I did there? ^ This is epic, gimmeh
SFX Bladerunner Minmatar Bite me inc.	Posted - 2010.05.14 23:15:00 - [48] Originally by: Minigin there are a number of reasons no coalition will ever be able to wage a "successful" campaign against another coalition. first and foremost, at the helm of these coalitions are not competant players but rather popular personalities/diplomats. these people are incapable of commanding a fleet and instead pin success on some vague references to "being able to maintain friendships" which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard considering these "blobs" form as a result of human nature rather than anyones "hard work". so thats the first issue, the leaders dont know what the **** they are doing and despite what they want you to believe they really are just winging it. the second reason is that these coalitions as ive stated do not form out of any real sense of friendship/kinship/likemindedness. they form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear, RONRIENESS(false belonging), security. thats how it is irl, thats how it is in this game. so when it comes down to it, the very members involved are not really gaining anything out of these wars. (especially seeing as practically none of the members involved in these wars are pvpers regadless of how hard you try to convinse anyone otherwise). thirdly newer players who dont have a clue about this game or its past history always seem willing to flood the ranks of these coalitions, throwing their support based on nothing behind groups that dont deserve or require it. this only serves to prolong these largely boring and pointless conflicts. fourthly "propaganda" means next to nothing in this game. sure you have certain people who make it work HI GUYS! but for the most part you have a bunch of goon/wi rejects who have nothing original or thoughtful to say and rely heavily on warn out memes to deliver FALCON PUNCHES to the faces of their enemies! when in reality they just reflect poorely on themselves and their respective alliances. all the while these people convinse themselves they are funny and/or liked by their fellow alliance mates (wake up to yourselves -_-) ive said a number of times, if there was a competant pvper at the head of either of these mega blobs who would actually be listend to... the other side would have no chance. it never ceases to amaze me how many times obvious results to engagements come forward and the majority of eve seems shocked by them! or how many times easy traps are fallen into/not put into effect. in summary if you want to blame people for how bad these sides are... we need to blame ourselves, because tollerating and joining this sort of drivel is how it begins to set in. and after a while people who dont know better keep these organisms alive past their expirey date. A proper pvper wouldn't want to lead those thousand man blobs simply due to the fact that 40% won't follow orders, 10% will hotmike from time to time, 60% will log in voicecoms and ask in a 1000+ people channel "hey guys I just logged in whats going on". Furthermore though I would like to add that wars like these DO have a definite purpose. This precise war for instance is a great way for both the SC and the NC to review and evaluate their pilot assets. They will know exactly what they can do, what their members are capable of and how dedicated they are (or not). Also, your arguement on companionship and friendship: You say big alliance blobs lack this, I disagree. It is exactly wars like these that bring people together, the same way a band is formed between people of the same outfit/group/squad in RL armies by going through experiences together. This is why war has a beautiful side, the side where humanity can bring out both it's best and worst at the same time, which can be quite fascinating. __________________________________________________ History is much like an endless waltz, the three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever..
Evil Pookie Caldari BURN EDEN	Posted - 2010.05.15 05:42:00 - [49] Originally by: Kastera Edited by: Kastera on 14/05/2010 00:37:36 This thread is too loltastic to not comment on. First off, I've spent most of my 0.0 time in the south with Atlas renter alliances until recently (and by recently I mean two days). I've never been part of any major war, a major fleet, a large alliance or anything really on the larger scale of what Eve has to offer. However, a few things prompted my moving my corp to the NC. Let me explain a few points to help people understand why Atlas, IT and their respective pets (Don't call them a coalition... doing so provides the assumption that they actually communicate on a productive level) fail. Atlas is way too spread out for it's own good and owns more space than it can effectively manage, as does IT. To mitigate this, they turn it over to renters. Now this is common among many of the larger alliances, however NC actually helps theirs and treats it as family. Atlas and IT do not. Example. Look at ALL the systems in Wicked Creek, where many Atlas renters reside, that Section XIII has taken sov in. Has Atlas responded in any way? No, they haven't. Curse Alliance has begun to drop sbu's in Insmother. Has Atlas responded yet? No, they haven't. SYS-K is essentially getting prison **d down south in Period Basis and Esoteria. Has IT gone to help in any effective way? No, they haven't. Even Red Alliance has increased roam activity and size into the Insmother region lately, with no response for Atlas. Atlas and IT have essentially left their renter alliances and some of their 'friends' ing in the wind with little to no support. NC on the other hand.... NC operates off of one TS server. They make fleets for the entire Coalition and share systems. They share their JB's and pool resources if needed. They operate as ONE SINGLE ENTITY. That, my dear friends, is a true coalition. One the treats everyone in it as family and is there for each other no matter what. That BFF sh!t is for real homie. When you attack one alliance in the NC, you attack ALL the alliances in NC. Not to mention they are sitting on the most prime real estate in the game. The money they make from mining r64 moons ALONE makes hundreds of billions of isk per month for some of the alliances. So basically, this whole SC invasion is a bit of a cluster** and will continue to be that way until Atlas and IT decide to actually develop a gameplan that will get sh!t done in an effective manner. In two days, I have been completely shocked at the sheer organizational skills of the NC. The fact that when something happens, a fleet is announced in the numerous intel channels and within 10 minutes there are hundreds of pilots from ALL the alliances no matter what time of day. I'm proud to say that I am now a part of the NC and I plan to remain here for the rest of my Eve days. NC BFF's! Bro Fist Formation EDIT: I forgot to mention... check the NC alliance killboards... we are DOMINATING. And, from what I have seen thusfar, no killboard doctoring of any kind is taking place. I can tell you right now that ME has an efficiency of 89% at the moment. The other alliances are having the same luck... quite a feat for people being invaded. before you get all hai faive guise! UDIE vs Northern Coalition of fail GUYS GUYS GUYS! Lets recruit nubbins and go roaming! What could possibly go wrong? 2329 kills / 31 losses 183,785,677,870 ISK / 11,131,731,693 ISK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrN-Rv2VEs
Vasili Z Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.05.15 05:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Kastera I can tell you right now that ME has an efficiency of 89% at the moment. The other alliances are having the same luck... quite a feat for people being invaded. How are there still people this stupid? ------- Going to kill you in Dust 514 (wait a minute, micro-transactions are dumb)

David Goodwill Caldari DarkStar 1 SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO	Posted - 2010.05.15 07:32:00 - [51] Originally by: drall I love the cheat beating from all the nc. I'm not sure what in find funnier. SC losing 5 Super Carriers. OR NC killing a titan and 5 super carriers and still are behind the SC in total isk damage dealt. KBs tell us your stories. I hear counting your own losses as kills to pad your kb imrpvoes your stats c/d?
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.15 08:03:00 - [52] Originally by: Evil Pookie UDIE vs Northern Coalition of fail GUYS GUYS GUYS! Lets recruit nubbins and go roaming! What could possibly go wrong? 2329 kills / 31 losses 183,785,677,870 ISK / 11,131,731,693 ISK Have you actually bothered camping anything besides NC related targets? I mean B-O-T-H-E-R-E-D? Cause if you go and camp HED or A2 or 3-F, boy, you're in for a threat... Signature Locked. Please refrain from amending a moderated warning. Zymurgist
Inquisitor Cerberuso Amarr Hounds of Helll Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.05.15 08:54:00 - [53] Originally by: Impact1983 Originally by: bloody johnroberts oh but the sc has some of the best fc's in the game today 1,A,J REGARD 2,hmmm 3,still thinking 4,nope sorry cant think of anymore There are plenty of good FCs in the SC and I will willing to bet that there are plenty of good FCs in the NC but I have been in fleet as a grunt when orders come in from the higher ups that make the FC cry as they will be killing their fleet. But back to the FCs, I have flown under a few Atlas FCs that I loved, some AAA FCs but then some noob FC take charge and screw it all up. COW has a few great FCs and a few not so great ones. With this war going 23 hours a day its draw of the luck to get in fleet with good ones and just bare with it when you are in fleet with bad ones. Much respect to the NC for bringing the fight to H-W but don't think that this will stop us as we still have isk to burn and ships to lose. On the next COW, ask Superskunk to sing to you all in Vent. You will wish you had killed urself :)
Cannibal R Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.15 15:17:00 - [54] Edited by: Cannibal R on 15/05/2010 15:17:49 Originally by: Kastera In two days, I have been completely shocked at the sheer organizational skills of the NC. The fact that when something happens, a fleet is announced in the numerous intel channels and within 10 minutes there are hundreds of pilots from ALL the alliances no matter what time of day. I'm proud to say that I am now a part of the NC and I plan to remain here for the rest of my Eve days. NC BFF's! Bro Fist Formation I also feel the same way as you do, joined last month and I can't regreat... We dont even have to leave our system to go look for victims and the sense of group in the NC is very good, compared to what I have experienced so far... (not much, but still) (small edit: I mean from other entities...)
Kastera Minmatar Reliables Inc Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.05.16 01:20:00 - [55] Edited by: Kastera on 16/05/2010 01:22:51 Originally by: Vasili Z Originally by: Kastera I can tell you right now that ME has an efficiency of 89% at the moment. The other alliances are having the same luck... quite a feat for people being invaded. How are there still people this stupid? Um... By stupid, do you mean dropping sbu's in EC- and letting us kill them with a laughable resistance by Brick? Or do you mean by having one single bomber come in at completely random times and dropping a single bomb nowhere anyone in attempt to hit an idle gang with more than 10k apart from each other? Or do you mean anchoring a sbu on a gate and then letting us unanchor it with no response for you? OE NOEZ! ONE BOMB!!! OMFGBBQFISHSTICKS!!! You know, if you had actually made an attempt to coordinate those bombing runs, you may have actually done some damage. Your attempt to make any headway in EC- was a horrible failscapade. The simple fact that since April, neither you nor your 'friends' have made any significant headway in this so-called war. To call IT, Atlas and whateverthe**** you are a Coalition is hilarious and to call this an invasion is equally stupid. This whole failscapade has turned into nothing more than a training opportunity and a chance to continue to put kills up. Oh and it's giving you guys the chance to show everyone in Eve just how much you really do suck. Watching you guys fail so hard is what made ME move up here and I'm sure I'm not the only one. So, in a way, you guys have actually HELPED us in our recruiting. Thanks for that... way to go. Oh, and I hear Molle lost yet ANOTHER titan today... he still holds the record for most titans lost by a single pilot in the history of the game at 5 losses. I think in addition to Planetary Interaction, we should be able to collect your tears to sell on the market. I know I'd pay good money for them. Maybe we could even shoot them at you and kill some more of Molle's titans...
Azeroth Uluntil Caldari GK inc. Panda Team	Posted - 2010.05.16 02:51:00 - [56] Most of the main competent fcs in eve tend to avoid the gigantic ****** filled battles that are comprised of the SC and NC forces, because, it just isn't fun. It isn't their fault they(both nc and sc) seem to attract morons who barely know what they are doing. As far as I know, the only remaining intelligent fcs in the NC are all in razor alliance... No idea about the SC as I don't know/care what groups are in it at the moment. Another issue is the fact that the servers just can't handle the massive battles that would actually be required to show who may be winning. NC vs SC is basically the whole T20 issue blown open again. Sure, BoB lost their name and space, but they adopted the NC tactics(Bring numbers, screw skill), and are fighting back.
BiggerDangDude Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.05.16 04:02:00 - [57] ITT: Minigin uses more words in one post than every other post in this thread combined.
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 04:59:00 - [58] Edited by: Minigin on 16/05/2010 05:04:54 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin you are naieve Yeah dude, I have no clue how EVE works. You however having never led anything above 100 members got it all figured out. if you want to keep pretending that what you are doing is hard... go right ahead. you might be fooling the people who are following you, you might even be fooling yourself. but you dont fool me wink Originally by: Kastera When you attack one alliance in the NC, you attack ALL the alliances in NC. Not to mention they are sitting on the most prime real estate in the game. my dear, i have seen the nc unify a number of times now, and trust me... some animals are more equal than others. i expect you will be eating your words some day. the only thing the sc has over the nc is they dont pretend they are bffs <3 and wont start stabbing the crap out of one another. whether this is wise or unwise is another matter, but i think you get my point. . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Thorir > How does it feel beeing in the alliance that is the laughingstock of all mature 0.0 alliances[/limegreen]
dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.16 05:02:00 - [59] bro i put 110% into this. HOW DARE YOU I role play ewok
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 05:10:00 - [60] Originally by: dastommy79 bro i put 110% into this. HOW DARE YOU nah bro you dont understand... fredo is the real hard worker... he has single handedly kept rzr together all these years. the rest of us are just grunts we need him to tell us how to think. (might be true if we are in rzr tbh) - wow thats a can of worms. <3 dast . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Thorir > How does it feel beeing in the alliance that is the laughingstock of all mature 0.0 alliances

dastommy79 Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.16 05:40:00 - [61] Fredo has some sort of delusion of what RAzor is and how the NC is a new creation to combat IT alliance and the SC. I was there back in the D2 days fred0. Its the same as it was back then just with less fail. For the most part your policy's up north and actions have been the same for the last 3 years. I role play ewok
Ilene D'over Amarr Tax Free Corporation	Posted - 2010.05.16 05:53:00 - [62] The Northern Coalition's morale boost created by the Southern Clown's cluster**** aka the Great Breakout¬ of May 13 ranks almost as highly as the Molle's brilliant tactical move of getting every one of his pilots trapped in the PR- station for a month. I can't help wondering just how much long the Clowns and pets will stay together before the poor suckers in those alliances head back to their own regions, annoyed because they were used as meat shields and cannon fodder just to satisfy the obsessive and megalomaniacal ego of a washed up Swedish fan fixer ===== 100th level Black Liquorice Belt exponent in that great Lancastrian Martial Art of Eckythump.
EvEhate2 Minmatar PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.05.16 06:32:00 - [63] Compared to the NC Invasion of -A- Space (HED)...are we doing good,equal or bad? And do we also have the "There seems to be a misunderstanding,we never planed an Invasion of HED-,we just went on a extended roaming" Joker Signature contains inappropriate content. Removed. Applebabe
UNA13OM13ER Gallente Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.05.16 07:36:00 - [64] Originally by: fascinate #1) It's just a game bro. #2) The only reason X invades Y is for ** to do. #2.33) No entity that has the capacity to invade a power bloc gives a ** about what you think about it. #3) Go outside, have something to drink, talk to a girl. #4) Profit... WIN...
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.16 10:18:00 - [65] Originally by: Minigin ... I didn't say it is hard. I said I had it more figured out than you do. And from your limited time in RAWR and our experience with you I'm pretty sure everyone agrees. You have no idea at all how anything works. In fact If I was you I'd check if my pants were on backwards or not, then again, how would I know? --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Minigin Caldari Trinity Corp WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.05.16 10:21:00 - [66] Edited by: Minigin on 16/05/2010 10:25:25 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin ... I didn't say it is hard. I said I had it more figured out than you do. And from your limited time in RAWR and our experience with you I'm pretty sure everyone agrees. You have no idea at all how anything works. In fact If I was you I'd check if my pants were on backwards or not, then again, how would I know? i was in rawr???? - dast!!! check this idiot out... he thinks he knows me! hahahahahaha! btw you are almost definatly thinking of shinma and i completely agree... he is beyond ******ed and really does have no idea whats going on. but your going to have to eat your words because im pretty sure hes going to go back to mm soon (despite happilly trying to sell them out) . THE ORIGINAL COLOUR POSTER! Revisal > Nice job trying to troll me but luckily I'm smarter than you. :D
Salivan Harddin Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.16 10:28:00 - [67] Drive by posting Posting to say dastommy79 is awesome Hence, I agree with anything dastommy79 says without even reading the thread. Because thats how I roll -****ing in his own cheerios since 2007 -Dreddit fan since 15/5/2010 -They see me trollin, they hatin
Digital Emperor Amarr Cryptonym Sleepers Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.16 13:01:00 - [68] Edited by: Digital Emperor on 16/05/2010 13:01:42 Originally by: Kastera your awesome Kastera. Welcome to the north BFF <33 < insert random troll >
arjun Amarr Battlestars Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.16 14:43:00 - [69] cant really see how nationality or profession/job of an opponent is relevant to theese threads
Schmobag Gallente The Inevitable Corp	Posted - 2010.05.17 21:04:00 - [70] Confirming that NC vs SC is a pretty recent phenomenon and threads like this decrying the state of 0.0 as "lifeless" and "stagnating" for years to come are pretty rare.

ImmaSplodeYou Amarr The Unit... Honourable Templum of Alcedonia	Posted - 2010.05.17 21:16:00 - [71] Can't we all just be friends?
NATMav Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.05.18 00:46:00 - [72] Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Most of the main competent fcs in eve tend to avoid the gigantic ****** filled battles that are comprised of the SC and NC forces, because, it just isn't fun. It isn't their fault they(both nc and sc) seem to attract morons who barely know what they are doing. As far as I know, the only remaining intelligent fcs in the NC are all in razor alliance... No idea about the SC as I don't know/care what groups are in it at the moment. Another issue is the fact that the servers just can't handle the massive battles that would actually be required to show who may be winning. NC vs SC is basically the whole T20 issue blown open again. Sure, BoB lost their name and space, but they adopted the NC tactics(Bring numbers, screw skill), and are fighting back. I <3 you Az. -----------------------------------------
Azeroth Uluntil Caldari GK inc. Panda Team	Posted - 2010.05.18 23:59:00 - [73] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Azeroth Uluntil Most of the main competent fcs in eve tend to avoid the gigantic ****** filled battles that are comprised of the SC and NC forces, because, it just isn't fun. It isn't their fault they(both nc and sc) seem to attract morons who barely know what they are doing. As far as I know, the only remaining intelligent fcs in the NC are all in razor alliance... No idea about the SC as I don't know/care what groups are in it at the moment. Another issue is the fact that the servers just can't handle the massive battles that would actually be required to show who may be winning. NC vs SC is basically the whole T20 issue blown open again. Sure, BoB lost their name and space, but they adopted the NC tactics(Bring numbers, screw skill), and are fighting back. I <3 you Az. I miss flying with you and your people Natmav. You guys part of this war? On which side? :D
Fred0 Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.19 05:46:00 - [74] Edited by: Fred0 on 19/05/2010 05:47:51 Originally by: Minigin Edited by: Minigin on 16/05/2010 10:25:25 Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Minigin ... I didn't say it is hard. I said I had it more figured out than you do. And from your limited time in RAWR and our experience with you I'm pretty sure everyone agrees. You have no idea at all how anything works. In fact If I was you I'd check if my pants were on backwards or not, then again, how would I know? i was in rawr???? - dast!!! check this idiot out... he thinks he knows me! hahahahahaha! btw you are almost definatly thinking of shinma and i completely agree... he is beyond ******ed and really does have no idea whats going on. but your going to have to eat your words because im pretty sure hes going to go back to mm soon (despite happilly trying to sell them out) I tried to give you a compliment. It was Hydra right? And whether he goes back to RAWR is irrelevant. There's plenty of people like him around in various NC alliances. But still, you have no idea what makes or breaks the NC. Whether this is hard or easy to make it work like it's been working for the past few weeks. You really can't comment. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life"
Gul Dukautt Gallente Personae Non Gratae Forever Forgotten	Posted - 2010.05.19 18:54:00 - [75] Originally by: DarthDeaconRage Cantaloupe with frozen yogurt ^^ this
Ocih Amarr The Program Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.05.19 20:15:00 - [76] Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/05/2010 05:47:51 But still, you have no idea what makes or breaks the NC. Whether this is hard or easy to make it work like it's been working for the past few weeks. You really can't comment. NC has a BPO for Sov nano paste.
Shamrock1 Caldari Hell's Horsemen Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.05.20 05:52:00 - [77] Edited by: Shamrock1 on 20/05/2010 05:53:42 Originally by: Minigin there are a number of reasons no coalition will ever be able to wage a "successful" campaign against another coalition. first and foremost, at the helm of these coalitions are not competant players but rather popular personalities/diplomats. these people are incapable of commanding a fleet and instead pin success on some vague references to "being able to maintain friendships" which is the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard considering these "blobs" form as a result of human nature rather than anyones "hard work". so thats the first issue, the leaders dont know what the **** they are doing and despite what they want you to believe they really are just winging it. the second reason is that these coalitions as ive stated do not form out of any real sense of friendship/kinship/likemindedness. they form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear, RONRIENESS(false belonging), security. thats how it is irl, thats how it is in this game. so when it comes down to it, the very members involved are not really gaining anything out of these wars. (especially seeing as practically none of the members involved in these wars are pvpers regadless of how hard you try to convinse anyone otherwise). thirdly newer players who dont have a clue about this game or its past history always seem willing to flood the ranks of these coalitions, throwing their support based on nothing behind groups that dont deserve or require it. this only serves to prolong these largely boring and pointless conflicts. fourthly "propaganda" means next to nothing in this game. sure you have certain people who make it work HI GUYS! but for the most part you have a bunch of goon/wi rejects who have nothing original or thoughtful to say and rely heavily on warn out memes to deliver FALCON PUNCHES to the faces of their enemies! when in reality they just reflect poorely on themselves and their respective alliances. all the while these people convinse themselves they are funny and/or liked by their fellow alliance mates (wake up to yourselves -_-) ive said a number of times, if there was a competant pvper at the head of either of these mega blobs who would actually be listend to... the other side would have no chance. it never ceases to amaze me how many times obvious results to engagements come forward and the majority of eve seems shocked by them! or how many times easy traps are fallen into/not put into effect. in summary if you want to blame people for how bad these sides are... we need to blame ourselves, because tollerating and joining this sort of drivel is how it begins to set in. and after a while people who dont know better keep these organisms alive past their expirey date. you can't say that IRC/ED was the same as you stated. It was the fact that there survival was at play and were true friends to begin with, i find it interesting you pick the worst out of human nature instead of whats really objective. and i think a touche is in order.
Mya ElleTerego Amarr The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.05.20 06:50:00 - [78] Originally by: Ocih Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/05/2010 05:47:51 But still, you have no idea what makes or breaks the NC. Whether this is hard or easy to make it work like it's been working for the past few weeks. You really can't comment. NC has a BPO for Sov nano paste. Actually it begins with tech, and ends with netium, and its helps alot when making and keeping new friends regardless of how crappy you treat them. Alliance Recruit thread Alliance Homepage/Killboard
Misaki Tanaka Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.05.20 07:03:00 - [79] Originally by: Mya ElleTerego Originally by: Ocih Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/05/2010 05:47:51 But still, you have no idea what makes or breaks the NC. Whether this is hard or easy to make it work like it's been working for the past few weeks. You really can't comment. NC has a BPO for Sov nano paste. Actually it begins with tech, and ends with netium, and its helps alot when making and keeping new friends regardless of how crappy you treat them. NC has been a cool bro to us so far. v0v Actually I'd say one of the coolest. ----
Kilostream Caldari Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.20 21:40:00 - [80] Originally by: Minigin ....coalitions....form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear.... Originally by: Minigin ....your coalition is....based on greed/security.... I hear if you repeat something often enough it becomes true?

Beachura Caldari G-Force Enterprises Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.05.21 14:17:00 - [81] Edited by: Beachura on 21/05/2010 14:16:47 Originally by: Kilostream Originally by: Minigin ....coalitions....form on very basic drives of humanity; greed, fear.... Originally by: Minigin ....your coalition is....based on greed/security.... I hear if you repeat something often enough it becomes true? Close your eyes and clap your heels together dorothy!!!


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