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Masta Killa	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:37:00 - [31] Originally by: Tails If so, do you mind sharing your setup ideas? The setup isn't as important as having the right skills. I have energy systems op @ 5, repair sys @ 4, amarr bs @ 3 () and large energy @ 4. Energy systems op really made the difference as 3x bs spawns are now totally easy for me to get rich off. I use an armageddon for npc (raising 130 mil for an apoc + insurance is a real problem for me, as I hunt little and spend everything right away) and my setup is: 7x mega pulses, 1x medium SB (kinda useless, but hey) 3x cap recharger 2's 1x L acco, 1x t2 medium rep, 3x hards (2x thermal, 1x em for sanshas), 2x cap relays and a heat sink t2. This setup is top of the line for the armageddon as it is a fine tank and a heavy, heavy damage dealer and I always reccommend it to anyone who npc hunts in an Arma. Just don't ever use a stupid npc setup like 2x hards unless youre dealing with npc's that you defend yourself against using smartbombs (i think ppl do that against guristas). -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
Masta Killa	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Tails If so, do you mind sharing your setup ideas? The setup isn't as important as having the right skills. I have energy systems op @ 5, repair sys @ 4, amarr bs @ 3 () and large energy @ 4. Energy systems op really made the difference as 3x bs spawns are now totally easy for me to get rich off. I use an armageddon for npc (raising 130 mil for an apoc + insurance is a real problem for me, as I hunt little and spend everything right away) and my setup is: 7x mega pulses, 1x medium SB (kinda useless, but hey) 3x cap recharger 2's 1x L acco, 1x t2 medium rep, 3x hards (2x thermal, 1x em for sanshas), 2x cap relays and a heat sink t2. This setup is top of the line for the armageddon as it is a fine tank and a heavy, heavy damage dealer and I always reccommend it to anyone who npc hunts in an Arma. Just don't ever use a stupid npc setup like 2x hards unless youre dealing with npc's that you defend yourself against using smartbombs (i think ppl do that against guristas). -------------------------------------- We are The Collective. Resistance is futile.
RedClaws	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:43:00 - [33] Well on an apoc its easy to tank 3 sansha bs with building up resistance to 70-80% and puttong on 2 large vestments and having the cap to support them. Even 1.5-2 mil Skillpoints will get ya it
RedClaws	Posted - 2004.12.06 15:43:00 - [34] Well on an apoc its easy to tank 3 sansha bs with building up resistance to 70-80% and puttong on 2 large vestments and having the cap to support them. Even 1.5-2 mil Skillpoints will get ya it
Possum Jenkins	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:38:00 - [35] 3x standard npc maybe, but considering most 3x spawns are faction spawns it's more realistic to talk on those terms. I know from first hand experience they'll rip you apart with 2xL acco, 3x hardners before your cap even gets to 50%. lvl 5 in all mechanic skills. They are possible but don't be surprised if you have to warp in and out a couple of times. All the rest of the mumbling is just forum chest beating.
Possum Jenkins	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:38:00 - [36] 3x standard npc maybe, but considering most 3x spawns are faction spawns it's more realistic to talk on those terms. I know from first hand experience they'll rip you apart with 2xL acco, 3x hardners before your cap even gets to 50%. lvl 5 in all mechanic skills. They are possible but don't be surprised if you have to warp in and out a couple of times. All the rest of the mumbling is just forum chest beating.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:57:00 - [37] Why bother ? Against gurista just stay at 80+km using long range guns untill you've got 2 BS down and go in for the kill and loot using two hardeners by warping to a roid behind the spawn. Works most of the time.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.12.06 16:57:00 - [38] Why bother ? Against gurista just stay at 80+km using long range guns untill you've got 2 BS down and go in for the kill and loot using two hardeners by warping to a roid behind the spawn. Works most of the time.
Deadzone	Posted - 2004.12.06 22:30:00 - [39] Edited by: Deadzone on 06/12/2004 22:33:34 I can tank 3 BS spawns in my Tempest, using armour tanking. Just make sure you do a little research at Eve-DB to find out what dmg types you'll be facing. Then just stick on some hardeners and 1-2 named repairers and have your cap recharge down to 300-400secs. As a backup, I always have a named large cap booster with 4x800 charges equipped. I found myself having to use it sometimes with many elite frigs buzzing around. Vice-Admiral Executive Commanding Officer Military Command Hadead Drive Yards
Deadzone	Posted - 2004.12.06 22:30:00 - [40] Edited by: Deadzone on 06/12/2004 22:33:34 I can tank 3 BS spawns in my Tempest, using armour tanking. Just make sure you do a little research at Eve-DB to find out what dmg types you'll be facing. Then just stick on some hardeners and 1-2 named repairers and have your cap recharge down to 300-400secs. As a backup, I always have a named large cap booster with 4x800 charges equipped. I found myself having to use it sometimes with many elite frigs buzzing around. Vice-Admiral Executive Commanding Officer Military Command Hadead Drive Yards
Redginald	Posted - 2004.12.06 22:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Bobbeh Originally by: Liz Bathory contrived situaltion, to show how the math works you're sheild tanking, and a raven firse 6 mjolners(em torpedos) at you your em reistance is 0% with one hardner, that becomes 50% with two hardners, that becomes 75% suddemly that mjolner torp volley doens't look nearly so painful does it? with each one of them doing only 25% of their theoretical damage thats what everyone says, try actually fitting two hardeners 1st- 50% 2nd- 68% yeah, I've got a Tempest. If you read the Info it says 0% Explosive Armor resistance, yet when I make it my active ship it now has 9% which with 2 explosive armor hardeners on make it 71% instead of 75%. I'm not sure what is going on
Redginald	Posted - 2004.12.06 22:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Bobbeh Originally by: Liz Bathory contrived situaltion, to show how the math works you're sheild tanking, and a raven firse 6 mjolners(em torpedos) at you your em reistance is 0% with one hardner, that becomes 50% with two hardners, that becomes 75% suddemly that mjolner torp volley doens't look nearly so painful does it? with each one of them doing only 25% of their theoretical damage thats what everyone says, try actually fitting two hardeners 1st- 50% 2nd- 68% yeah, I've got a Tempest. If you read the Info it says 0% Explosive Armor resistance, yet when I make it my active ship it now has 9% which with 2 explosive armor hardeners on make it 71% instead of 75%. I'm not sure what is going on
ZelRox	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:01:00 - [43] i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. ---------------------- I wanna tuc tuc ..
ZelRox	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:01:00 - [44] i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. ---------------------- I wanna tuc tuc ..
Shirei	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:40:00 - [45] Edited by: Shirei on 06/12/2004 23:47:56 Originally by: ZelRox i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. All missiles fired by Guristas are kinetic damage, so it makes some sense to harden mostly against kinetic. 3 kinetic + 1 thermal is really going a bit overboard though. Either 2 kinetic or 2 kinetic + 1 thermal is generally enough for most Guristas spawns at least when armor tanking.
Shirei	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:40:00 - [46] Edited by: Shirei on 06/12/2004 23:47:56 Originally by: ZelRox i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. All missiles fired by Guristas are kinetic damage, so it makes some sense to harden mostly against kinetic. 3 kinetic + 1 thermal is really going a bit overboard though. Either 2 kinetic or 2 kinetic + 1 thermal is generally enough for most Guristas spawns at least when armor tanking.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:44:00 - [47] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: ZelRox i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. All missiles fired by Guristas are kinetic damage, so it makes some sense to harden mostly against kinetic. 3 kinetic + 1 thermal is really going a bit overboard though. Either 2 kinetic or 2 kinetic + 1 thermal is generally enough for most Guristas spawns. yes, 2 kinetic and a large shieldbooster have kept my megathron safe at all times untill now. Of course, that with only being hit by cruises and torps from these spawns.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.12.06 23:44:00 - [48] Originally by: Shirei Originally by: ZelRox i dont see any point in having 3 kinetic hardeners. All missiles fired by Guristas are kinetic damage, so it makes some sense to harden mostly against kinetic. 3 kinetic + 1 thermal is really going a bit overboard though. Either 2 kinetic or 2 kinetic + 1 thermal is generally enough for most Guristas spawns. yes, 2 kinetic and a large shieldbooster have kept my megathron safe at all times untill now. Of course, that with only being hit by cruises and torps from these spawns.
benwallace	Posted - 2004.12.07 00:16:00 - [49] I dunno if its hard but I soloed a 2x shadow sage (500k) and 1x harb(1mil) 3x bs spawn in a apoc with this setup 7 mega pulses 1 lrg named sb 4 cap rechargers 2 lrg named armor repiarers 2x hardeners n-type thermal and em 2 cap relays 1 heat sink t2(I use best named tech 1 saves me cpu) --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.12.07 00:16:00 - [50] I dunno if its hard but I soloed a 2x shadow sage (500k) and 1x harb(1mil) 3x bs spawn in a apoc with this setup 7 mega pulses 1 lrg named sb 4 cap rechargers 2 lrg named armor repiarers 2x hardeners n-type thermal and em 2 cap relays 1 heat sink t2(I use best named tech 1 saves me cpu) --------------------------
The Chef	Posted - 2004.12.07 02:48:00 - [51] 1) Find a ship with great resistance to the rats you are fighting 2) Slam on as many active hardeners as you can Wash, Rinse, Repeat. ==================================== EVEkill Visit our homepage
The Chef	Posted - 2004.12.07 02:48:00 - [52] 1) Find a ship with great resistance to the rats you are fighting 2) Slam on as many active hardeners as you can Wash, Rinse, Repeat. ==================================== EVEkill Visit our homepage

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